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<div>That accusation about local Zionists, as true as it is, will bring a deafening silence to this discussion. ...</div><div>As they say... nothing here to see ... move on...</div><div><br></div>
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On Wednesday, March 28, 2018, 9:32:29 PM CDT, peace-discuss-request@lists.chambana.net <peace-discuss-request@lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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<div><div dir="ltr">Send Peace-discuss mailing list submissions to<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a href="https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss-request@lists.chambana.net" href="mailto:peace-discuss-request@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss-request@lists.chambana.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">You can reach the person managing the list at<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <a ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss-owner@lists.chambana.net" href="mailto:peace-discuss-owner@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss-owner@lists.chambana.net</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br></div><div dir="ltr">than "Re: Contents of Peace-discuss digest..."<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Today's Topics:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"> 1. Re: Daily Illini items re Israel (Boyle, Francis A)<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 1<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 02:32:04 +0000<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: "Boyle, Francis A" <<a ymailto="mailto:fboyle@illinois.edu" href="mailto:fboyle@illinois.edu">fboyle@illinois.edu</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "Peace-discuss List (<a ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>)"<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Daily Illini items re Israel<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:A577E3DDF9C35E4DA9C0B5E0346A12F0334DC692@CITESMBX4.ad.uillinois.edu" href="mailto:A577E3DDF9C35E4DA9C0B5E0346A12F0334DC692@CITESMBX4.ad.uillinois.edu">A577E3DDF9C35E4DA9C0B5E0346A12F0334DC692@CITESMBX4.ad.uillinois.edu</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">The entire Salaita/Iliniwak Fiasco just proves how mean, nasty, vicious, ruthless, cruel and unprincipled the Campus Zionists have always been since I started teaching here on August 21, 1978. They will stop at nothing to get their perverse way. The Campus Zionists are just a Gang of Academic Thugs and Moral Reprobates.<br></div><div dir="ltr">Fab.<br></div><div dir="ltr">D in BDS.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Francis A. Boyle<br></div><div dir="ltr">Law Building<br></div><div dir="ltr">504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.<br></div><div dir="ltr">Champaign IL 61820 USA<br></div><div dir="ltr">217-333-7954 (phone)<br></div><div dir="ltr">217-244-1478 (fax)<br></div><div dir="ltr">(personal comments only)<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Peace-discuss [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss-bounces@lists.chambana.net" href="mailto:peace-discuss-bounces@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss-bounces@lists.chambana.net</a>] On Behalf Of Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss<br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:07 PM<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: David Green <<a ymailto="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com" href="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com">davegreen84@yahoo.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cc: Peace-discuss List (<a ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>) <<a ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Daily Illini items re Israel<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Yeah, as I said before: Campus Zionists are a Gang of Moral Lepers! They maliciously procured the illegal firing of Steven Salaita;they threw him, his wife and their baby out into the street with no visible means of support; they destroyed his entire academic career; and they eviscerated our Native American Studies Program that was intended to constitute Partial Reparation for Chief Illiniwak.<br></div><div dir="ltr">FAB.<br></div><div dir="ltr">D in BDS.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Francis A. Boyle<br></div><div dir="ltr">Law Building<br></div><div dir="ltr">504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.<br></div><div dir="ltr">Champaign, IL 61820 USA<br></div><div dir="ltr">217-333-7954 (phone)<br></div><div dir="ltr">217-244-1478 (fax)<br></div><div dir="ltr">(personal comments only)<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Peace-discuss <<a ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss-bounces@lists.chambana.net" href="mailto:peace-discuss-bounces@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss-bounces@lists.chambana.net</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss-bounces@lists.chambana.net" href="mailto:peace-discuss-bounces@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss-bounces@lists.chambana.net</a>>> On Behalf Of David Green via Peace-discuss<br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 3:58 PM<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Peace-discuss List <<a ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [Peace-discuss] Daily Illini items re Israel<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">As mentioned on today's News from Neptune:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">DI blurb on referendum:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">The only referendum that failed 3,133 to 1,700 reads as follows: Shall the University divest, or withdraw investments, from specified companies in the University’s BlackRock portfolio that actively normalize, engage in, or fund human rights violations as defined by the United Nation’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights?<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">DI Letter from Cary Nelson et al.:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Last month student senators listened attentively to two hours of public comment from UIUC students and faculty. The topic: should there be yet another referendum on this spring’s ballot about whether the university should divest from companies doing business in Israel? That issue was widely debated on campus last year, and the referendum was soundly defeated.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Although people spoke on both sides of the issue, on one point speakers from both sides agreed. Jewish and Palestinian students alike testified that they felt harassed and threatened by the hate speech the campus debate generated. Campus discussion about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict can be civil, but contests to win a forthcoming vote often are not. Competition aimed at obtaining a victory involves passions of a different character.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">At the student government meeting, referendum advocates made their strategy clear: they were going to reintroduce the referendum year after year. A clear expression of student opinion opposing it in a democratic vote didn’t matter. They were not giving up.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">That strategy has already been followed on other campuses, sometimes with annual votes taking place for a decade. Arguing over a divestment resolution as a result crowds out every other topic — from tuition levels, to class size, to loan programs — that students care about and where their advocacy can make a difference.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On divestment, a campus vote amounts to empty symbolism. No Board of Trustees is going to let students, faculty, or staff decide investment policy. Investment policy is a Board fiduciary responsibility. A broad brush condemnation of a series of companies, moreover, simply invites Board dismissal.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Divestment is actually a complex subject that gets confused and falsified by the resulting tweets and posters and slogans. Some companies that do business on the West Bank actually make Palestinians’ lives easier, but they are nonetheless targeted for protests. A number of companies do not sell directly to Israel. They sell to the US Defense Department, where Israel makes approved purchases, drawing on funds appropriated by the US Congress. What would happen to a US company that told the Pentagon it would have to approve the Defense Department’s customer list? Many targeted US corporations have offices and headquarters in Illinois. They offer internships to UI students. They hire students’ parents and relatives. Such companies have reason to expect fair and specific engagement from UI groups, not uniformed condemnation.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Yet at the campus student government debate last month, companies in all these categories were basically accused of war crimes. That is not a carefully reasoned position. National BDS web sites target any company, among others, that sells to the Israeli army, including companies that sell shoes and binoculars, even when the same models are marketed to civilian consumers here and abroad.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">The University has important research collaborations with Israeli faculty members and their institutions. It has study abroad programs for students. Academic freedom provides that students and faculty have the right to pursue those options. The same Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) movement that promotes divestment urges universities to eliminate all those relationships. It even says faculty members should refuse to write letters of recommendation for students wanting to study in Israel. The local and national groups that endorse divestment endorse those demands as well.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is among the important topics that should be studied and discussed on campus. But a divestment debate is not a good way to do so. There are courses offered in our institution that encourage a critical approach to studying Israel and Palestine. These engage in nuance and context, providing students the opportunity to learn in detail. By contrast the rhetoric surrounding the divestment debate can be shallow, informed by simplistic slogans.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">We do not need another acrimonious divestment debate at UIUC.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Faculty Signatories:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Brian F. Allan, Entomology<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Ilana Redstone Akresh, Sociology<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Richard S. Akresh, Economics<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">May Berenbaum, Entomology<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Jeffrey R. Brown, Dean, College of Business<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Nigel D. Goldenfeld, Physics<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Diane Gottheil, Medicine<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Rachel S. Harris, Comparative Literature<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Richard Herman, Chancellor emeritus<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Richard L. Kaplan, Law<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Deborah Katz-Downie, Plant Biology<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Michael H. Leroy, Labor & Industrial Relations<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Cary Nelson, English<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Gene E. Robinson, Entomology<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Jacqueline Ross, Law<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Richard J. Ross, Law<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Paula A. Treichler, Media & Cinema<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Paul M. 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