<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">A prophet w/o honor in his own country...<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On May 27, 2018, at 10:11 AM, ewj via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"><div style="line-height:1.4">Everything I needed to know about populations i learned from hop hornbeam and Escherichia coli That there social justice stuff must be some powerful shit if it can overturn laws of physics. There must be a catch. I bet it is expensive or illegal or both. <br><br>About large families being the result of poverty...are you saying that avarice is linked to hating children. wait wasnt that what wcfields was trying to tell us all.along?<br><br><br><br><br><br></div>On 2018-05-27 22:17 , <a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss</a> Wrote: <br><br><blockquote id="ntes-andriodmail-quote" style="margin:0px;padding-left:1ex;border-left:#ccc 1px solid">Don’t be ridiculous. Population stabilizes with development and social justice.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">People aren’t poor because they have too many children. People have too many children because they’re poor - an extended family in the only form of social security in societies lacking social justice. <br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 27, 2018, at 9:06 AM, David Enstrom via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" class="">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Che's remark shows an ignorance of the relationships between over population, individual suffering, environmental degradation and WAR. </div><div dir="auto" class="">Che clearly not a demographer. </div><div dir="auto" class=""> </div><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="">On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 8:51 AM C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" class="">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">The US contraceptive and anti-natal policies were meant to reduce the population pressures for social justice in America’s semi-colonies, particularly in Latin America.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hence Che’s remark.</div></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 27, 2018, at 8:39 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank" class="">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-7066391872633489443Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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Fear of forced sterilization is not an excuse for preventing a woman’s choice over her body. In fact, forcing childbirth is little different from forced sterilization. Killing the unborn, we’re speaking of seeds and fetuses not babies, is not the same thing
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The US has long sponsored contraceptive and anti-natal policies in Latin America. (Not, for the most part, so brutally as Israel’s sterilization programs for Bedouins, African refugees, etc.)
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