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<body style="margin-bottom:45px"><div style='line-height:1.4'>Now that i think about it there likely are women who 'don't pack the gear to be mamas'. no eugenics here they just drop out of the gene pool after awhile. probably cold northern climates and long hard winters eh?<br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/></div>On 2018-05-28 00:20 , <a href="mailto:bjornsona@ameritech.net">bjornsona@ameritech.net</a> Wrote: <br><br><blockquote id='ntes-andriodmail-quote' style="margin:0px;padding-left:1ex;border-left:#ccc 1px solid">
<div style="font-size: 10pt;"><div dir="auto">Y'all are funny. </div><div dir="auto"> I get So tired of men debating women bearing children without having had the experience of debating/choosing every morsel of food and drink going into one's mouth for 9 -1/2 months AND the entire period of breastfeeding. Also the experience of the severe discomfort that can result from an unfortunate food choice: both in a woman's body, the baby who is breastfeedings' body, which therefore makes the woman and possibly her family extremely unhappy, and some choices of which might have developmental repercussions for months and years. I get tired of people who have not been sexually, physically, emotionally or verbally abused as children having absolutely no idea what Complex PTSD, that almost always arises from such abuse, does to an adult's ability to make proper adult decisions, such as whether or not they are capable of being in a relationship or raising an emotionally stable<span style="font-size: 10pt;"> child. Making laws and judgments to curtail someone with C-PTSD from accessing contraception, abortion, mental & physical health care, only leads to more violence in this country. </span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Breedin' and birthin' and belongin' to the human race are heavy, man.</span></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div id="LGEmailSignatureBox" dir="auto"><div dir="auto" font-size:9pt;"=""><i>Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone</i></div></div></div><div style="font-size: 10pt;"><div id="LGEmailHeader" dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">------ Original message------</div><div dir="auto"><b>From: </b>C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss<peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net></peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net></div><div dir="auto"><b>Date: </b>Sun, May 27, 2018 10:15 AM</div><div dir="auto"><b>To: </b>ewj;</div><div dir="auto"><b>Cc: </b>C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss;Karen Aram;</div><div dir="auto"><b>Subject:</b>Re: [Peace-discuss] fyi</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div>A prophet w/o honor in his own country...<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On May 27, 2018, at 10:11 AM, ewj via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="line-height:1.4">Everything I needed to know about populations i learned from hop hornbeam and Escherichia coli That there social justice stuff must be some powerful shit if it can overturn laws of physics. There must be a catch. I bet it is expensive or illegal or both. <br><br>About large families being the result of poverty...are you saying that avarice is linked to hating children. wait wasnt that what wcfields was trying to tell us <a href="http://all.al">all.al</a>ong?<br><br><br><br><br><br></div>On <a href="tel:2018-05-27 22">2018-05-27 22</a>:17 , <a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss</a> Wrote: <br><br><blockquote id="ntes-andriodmail-quote" style="margin:0px;padding-left:1ex;border-left:#ccc 1px solid">Don’t be ridiculous. Population stabilizes with development and social justice.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">People aren’t poor because they have too many children. People have too many children because they’re poor - an extended family in the only form of social security in societies lacking social justice. <br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 27, 2018, at 9:06 AM, David Enstrom via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" class="">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Che's remark shows an ignorance of the relationships between over population, individual suffering, environmental degradation and WAR. </div><div dir="auto" class="">Che clearly not a demographer. </div><div dir="auto" class=""> </div><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="">On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 8:51 AM C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" class="">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">The US contraceptive and anti-natal policies were meant to reduce the population pressures for social justice in America’s semi-colonies, particularly in Latin America.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hence Che’s remark.</div></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 27, 2018, at 8:39 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank" class="">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-7066391872633489443Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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Fear of forced sterilization is not an excuse for preventing a woman’s choice over her body. In fact, forcing childbirth is little different from forced sterilization. Killing the unborn, we’re speaking of seeds and fetuses not babies, is not the same thing
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The US has long sponsored contraceptive and anti-natal policies in Latin America. (Not, for the most part, so brutally as Israel’s sterilization programs for Bedouins, African refugees, etc.)
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