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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">correction: cantor was not a suicide,
but perhaps neither were the "suicides" of some wayward Clinton
associates.<br>
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ewj via Peace-discuss wrote:<br>
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<div style="line-height:1.4">according to this report, about 67%
are suicides. about two in every three are suicides, saith the
new york times. i read it over and over again. surely it is
not misprint or a typo.<br>
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arguably murder could be done with an orange claw hammer or a
silver one or a sears and roebuck crowbar or one from walmart
but few who are out to do themselves in would choose a blunt
instrument or even a very sharp one. <br>
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it seems that this story is not about violence in Amerika but
about depression and despair.<br>
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It is Colonel Mustard in the basement on the rope.<br>
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my personal tendencies taken to some dysfunctional extreme are
more likely self defense that self destruction. i can relate to
going after the noisy good humour man but not him driving me to
suicide with his monotune and sticky confections.<br>
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is the same logic used to defend abortion applicable here? in
the absence of a gun the depressed will resort to rusty coat
hangers and Drano?<br>
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r. crumb suggested that the society would make cyanide pies
available for the terminally despairing. sort of like tide
pods,. only crunchy? take two. take more.<br>
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I note of late that suicides are not condemned as they were in
the society i grew up in. we would sympathize with families and
shake our heads in disbelief and hope it was over. jourdain,
williams, hemingway, cobain, boltzmann, cantor... <br>
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what is up?<br>
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if what the nytimes is saying is.tru<br>
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On 2018-06-12 02:08 , <a
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On an Average Day, 96 Americans Die By Firearms<br
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Mass shootings represent just a fraction of the nation’s
gun violence.<br class="">
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