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<div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:black;"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:black;">Hitler used the history of U.S. Manifest Destiny decimation of Native Americans as his prototype for "Lebensraum."</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:black;"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:black;">MO'B<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net><br>To: David Johnson <davidjohnson1451@comcast.net><br>Cc: Peace Discuss <peace-discuss@anti-war.net><br>Sent: Sat, Jul 14, 2018 7:49 am<br>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] FW: Trump versus NATO is a false narrative.<br><br></div>
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<div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="aolReplacedBody">I think it’s a wry joke on ‘Lebensraum.’<div><div><br><blockquote><div>On Jul 14, 2018, at 7:46 AM, David Johnson via Peace-discuss <<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="aolmail_Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div class="aolmail_WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"> </div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Excuse me ?</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">What is that supposed to mean Wayne ?</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I am talking about the realities of 2018, NOT the history of the 1930’s / 1940’s.</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">David J.</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="aolmail_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Peace-discuss [<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:peace-discuss-bounces@lists.chambana.net">mailto:peace-discuss-bounces@lists.chambana.net</a>]<span class="aolmail_Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="aolmail_Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>ewj via Peace-discuss<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="aolmail_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday, July 14, 2018 7:42 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="aolmail_Apple-converted-space"> </span>David Johnson via Peace-discuss<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="aolmail_Apple-converted-space"> </span>'Brussel, Morton K'; 'Peace Discuss'<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="aolmail_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Peace-discuss] Trump versus NATO is a false narrative.</span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"> </div><div><p class="aolmail_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">not to worry.<br>germans just need room to live.<br><br><br><br><br></p></div><p class="aolmail_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">On 2018-07-14 20:26 ,<span class="aolmail_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">David Johnson via Peace-discuss</a><span class="aolmail_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wrote:<span class="aolmail_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">German troops are also in Turkey on the Syrian border.</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The stationing of German troops in war zones outside of Germany is a violation of the post war constitution and is opposed by the vast majority of the German public, but the neo-liberal government did it anyway.</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Sound familiar ?</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">David J.</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="aolmail_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Peace-discuss [<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:peace-discuss-bounces@lists.chambana.net">mailto:peace-discuss-bounces@lists.chambana.net</a>]<span class="aolmail_Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="aolmail_Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Estabrook, Carl G via Peace-discuss<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="aolmail_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, July 13, 2018 10:40 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="aolmail_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Brussel, Morton K; Peace Discuss<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="aolmail_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Peace-discuss] Trump versus NATO is a false narrative…</span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"> </div><div><p class="aolmail_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">But Nato troops (Germans) are aiding US killing in Afghanistan - myrmidons for the empire... </span></p><div><div class="aolmail_MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-align: center;"><span><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div id="aolmail_divRpF852080"><p class="aolmail_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="aolmail_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Peace-discuss [<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:peace-discuss-bounces@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss-bounces@lists.chambana.net</a>] on behalf of Brussel, Morton K via Peace-discuss [<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>]<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="aolmail_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, July 13, 2018 10:27 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="aolmail_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Peace Discuss<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="aolmail_Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Peace-discuss] Trump versus NATO is a false narrative…</span><span></span></p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span>Insightful article about Trump and NATO:</span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span> </span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span><a target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.salon.com_2018_07_11_trump-2Dversus-2Dnato-2Dnot-2Dso-2Dfast-5Fpartner_&d=DwMGaQ&c=OCIEmEwdEq_aNlsP4fF3gFqSN-E3mlr2t9JcDdfOZag&r=4p_1umaGy6GSn3GnAtc6qB-u5jRD_xNUZTMjXBfCFOY&m=QzchHA6_7I3wNGjysOEAducFW20KG2hixzsJZEugoLA&s=rBw6yCcqlO4QMPwsd8o9TXl8JpCyQjr9abb-hyDXpXE&e=">https://www.salon.com/2018/07/11/trump-versus-nato-not-so-fast_partner/</a></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span> </span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span>A response to the assumed threats is that NATO-Trump apologists cite: No one is attacking, or is a threat to the NATO countries, but some states may forestall, or resist, the hegemony, economic, political, and military, that the U.S. demands. </span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; 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