<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body><div><font face="sans-serif">I support discussion of the scope of this group & list as per Anne's proposal.</font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="composer_signature"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> -- Stuart</div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: bjornsona@ameritech.net </div><div>Date: 7/30/18 09:02 (GMT-06:00) </div><div>To: Stuart Levy <stuartnlevy@gmail.com>, "E. Wayne Johnson" <ewj@pigs.ag>, C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net>, kmedina67 <kmedina67@gmail.com> </div><div>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] moderator help </div><div><br></div></div>
<div style="font-size: 10pt;"><div dir="auto">Thank you, Stuart. As Stuart knows, we just lost a subscriber who I signed up at the Market on Saturday because I told this person the listserve content was factual, interesting antiwar content we don't get from regular media. Then the first posts she saw were squabbling about highly controversial already-settled case law. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I have been guilty of responding to late-night posts unrelated to our anti-war message that angered me, when cooler heads advised me to ignore them. TMI Alert: it took some strong therapy for me to pull out all that early religiousity indoctrination when the cognitive dissonnance became too much!! </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Since we have not billed ourselves as Anne's or anyone else's therapy group, I move we either re-discuss the focus of this group at a personal face -to- face meeting, or we form a separate discussion list serve for the other topic. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In the meantime, Wayne: my email is<a href="mailto: bjornsona@ameritech.net"> bjornsona@ameritech.net</a> if you want to communicate that way. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Anne</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div id="LGEmailSignatureBox" dir="auto"><div dir="auto" font-size:9pt;"=""><i>Sent from my LG Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone</i></div></div></div><div style="font-size: 10pt;"><div id="LGEmailHeader" dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">------ Original message------</div><div dir="auto"><b>From: </b>Stuart Levy<stuartnlevy@gmail.com></stuartnlevy@gmail.com></div><div dir="auto"><b>Date: </b>Mon, Jul 30, 2018 8:40 AM</div><div dir="auto"><b>To: </b>E. Wayne Johnson<a href="mailto:;bjornsona@ameritech.net">;bjornsona@ameritech.net</a>;C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss;kmedina67;</div><div dir="auto"><b>Cc: </b>Stuart Levy;</div><div dir="auto"><b>Subject:</b>Re: [Peace-discuss] moderator help</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div>
Lots of right arguments go unheard, and many wrong ones flourish, or
else why would the US still be supporting the bombardment of Yemen?<br>
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Look, I signed up for AWARE as an anti-war group. I go with David
and Ann and Karen to work the farmer's market twice a month, and to
the monthly demonstrations, to express and work for opposition to US
participation in wars around the world. I've done that and other
things for many years, as many of you know who have been doing it
beside me.<br>
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I'm here on this list and others for discussion of opposition to war
and what we can do about it.<br>
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I didn't sign up to AWARE, and neither did the several people who
joined this list just last weekend, to join an anti-abortion
(and-oh-by-the-way-never-mind-what-happens-to-the-mothers) group.<br>
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Anyone here who wishes to start or join such a group, run a market
presence, hold demonstrations, carry on discussions, is welcome
to. But not on this list, please.<br>
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Stuart<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/30/2018 09:38 AM, E. Wayne
Johnson via Peace-discuss wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">If you are right, then the power of
your argument should be sufficient<br>
to squelch those who oppose your ideas, and you ought not need
to appeal to <br>
a higher (Levitical) authority for narrowing of the limits of
debate.<br>
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And when you are wrong, to admit the fault, delete the offending
code, and reboot.<br>
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bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Dear Moderator :) What is the agreement for
what people are allowed to publish here? I hate to lose
subscribers because we go off topic. (Guilty, I know). </div>
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<div dir="auto"><b>From: </b>C G Estabrook via
Peace-discuss<peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net></peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net></div>
<div dir="auto"><b>Date: </b>Sun, Jul 29, 2018 8:57 AM</div>
<div dir="auto"><b>To: </b>kmedina67;</div>
<div dir="auto"><b>Cc: </b>Peace-discuss;</div>
<div dir="auto"><b>Subject:</b>Re: [Peace-discuss] Stop
dividing AntiWar</div>
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"Until the conditions for Americans in the world (beset by
terrorists) change, access to safe drone assassinations needs
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"If you don't value the life of Americans, then criminalize
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<div class="">Until the conditions for women change,
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<div class="">If you don't value the life of the
woman, then criminalize her. </div>
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