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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I am not very impressed with the
Democrats. They dont believe in the Bill of Rights or freedom of
expression.<br>
They dont really care about stopping war or stopping the waste of
money and human lives it represents.<br>
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I really see the Democrat party as a bigger threat to the world
than is the KKK. <br>
I dont suppose that left to themselves, the KKK could have much of
an impact.<br>
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The Democrat party is pretty much the publicity arm of the KKK.<br>
If not for the Dems, no one much would give a ripe red one about
what <br>
the KKK is doing. <br>
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White supremacy and neo-nazis are not really all that cool and <br>
it doesnt seem that ya gotta have a cow about them to get people
to <br>
not sucked in by their alluring indoctrinations.<br>
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I'd say it's those same folks who are trying to tell us that the <br>
Russians hacked the election who are also having a conniption fit
about<br>
Nazis in America. Not many people are going to buy into the
notion<br>
that Schickelgruber was actually a really nice guy, just poorly
understood.<br>
It is certain that Americans "aint too swuft" but Nazis
threatening America?<br>
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I'd be a lot more worried about things like tetanus and crab
grass.<br>
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Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote:<br>
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<div class="">The Nixon Administration ended the draft in 1973,
only two weeks after the largest demonstration ever, the Counter
Inaugural. Kissinger alluded to that in his memoirs. </div>
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<div class="">As to Nixon being re-elected because “Peace is at
Hand” statements by the Republican Administration, you’ve got to
be kidding. After four years of Nixon, with the bombing of
Cambodia, the American people weren’t so stupid as to believe
anything the government said at that time. The problem was, many
did think by the end of “72” that the war had been wound down,
at least it wasn’t escalated, and all the talk about Paris Peace
talks, provided the illusion that it was no longer an issue. </div>
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<div class="">When people have given up hope, they stay home and
don’t vote. </div>
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<div class="">Again, as an organizer and supporter for McGovern I
saw people giving up. It’s similar to what happened after four
years of GW Bush, people just gave up.</div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">Appropo some Americans only
protest war when it hits them in the draft or their
pocketbook: We were in what is billed as the "3rd
largest Whole Foods" in the world in Lincoln Park,
just off 94 & North Ave. yesterday. Apparently,
#1 is Austin, TX and #2 is in London, Eng. At least
that is what the cashier said. Complete with a
locker wall interface to Amazon so that people can
have their Amazon purchases delivered to Whole Foods
and pick them up when shopping. </div>
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The Nixon administration ended the draft in 1973
because of the revolt of the US expeditionary force in
Vietnam. Conscript soldiers were no longer reliable.
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<div class="">By 1969 about 70% of the public had come
to regard the war as “fundamentally wrong and
immoral,” not “a mistake,” largely as a result of
the impact of student protest on general
consciousness. </div>
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<div class="">US business had by 1968 told President
Johnson that the costs of the war were too high and
it needed too be liquidated. He effectively
resigned.</div>
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<div class="">Richard Nixon was the peace candidate in
1968: he had a 'secret plan’ for ending the war. He
was re-elected in 1972 because his Secretary of
State announced, “Peace is at hand.”</div>
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<div class="">Ending US wars in SW Asia today will not
be so easy as ending wars in SE Asia (which the US
essentially won) was then. Nor will it probably
follow a similar pattern.</div>
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<div class="">And it’s unlikely it will be done by
taking up the Democrats’ disingenuous cry that the
elected president is a fascist (and a Russian
puppet!) - and not mentioning the wars and war
provocations, except incidentally, as this rally
did.</div>
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<div class="">The situation is closer to the
mid-1960s, when an anti-war movement had to be built
from scratch, and the Democrats were screaming,
“...Let every nation know ... that we shall pay any
price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support
any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival
and the success of liberty”! </div>
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<div class="">Liberty for whom is clearer now. —CGE</div>
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<div class="">Sorry Carl, your focus
on only one issue is detrimental
to building a movement.
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That is what this is all about.
ANSWER more than any organization
in the US is focused on war and
foreign policy, but as most
Americans really don’t care about
war, afterall “we’re not killing
Americans like us” and you can
argue that point all you want but
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<div class="">1) The largest
protests against war in the US pre
intervention of Iraq, was really
opposing Bush policy’s and was
organized by the Democrats.
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<div class="">2) The protests
against just about everything the
past two years is about Trump, and
organized by the Democrats.
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<div class="">3) The protests in the
70’s died when Nixon dropped the
draft. I was there, I was with the
organizers who managed the largest
ever protest during that time, the
Counter Inaugeral, and that is
precisely why Nixon eliminated the
draft, after that it was extremely
difficult to get the numbers. </div>
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<div class="">4) Only the “Costs of
war” are going to bring people out
into the streets enmass in D.C.
because of the impact on
individual lives.
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<div class="">5) Organizing against
the many horrific policies being
promoted by the current USG due to
our system of capitalism which is
the cause of all, including war,
takes strategy and tactics to
educate, organize, and coordinate.
It means working with others on
issues of concern. Just talking
about it in a venue that suits us,
isn’t getting us anywhere.</div>
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But they were not chanting, “No
war! Bring the troops home!”
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distraction. Fascism is not
the problem. US war-making is.</div>
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was an amazing
demonstration
of strength
and unity. By
4pm there were
more than
15,000 people
in Lafayette
Park chanting,
“No Nazis, No
KKK, No
Fascist USA”.</p>
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was a
remarkable
demonstration
of unity from
so many
communities:
Black, Latino,
Asian, Arab,
white people,
young and old.
All stood
together to
condemn the
Nazis and KKK
who thought
they could
come and rally
in front of
the White
House, because
they believe
they have a
dear friend
who occupies
that
residence. It
was shameful
that the U.S.
government and
police spent
millions of
tax dollars to
act as a
private
security
escort for a
handful of
fascists. The
police
escorted them
on the metro
and provided
police vans to
take them from
the
Washington,
D.C. area back
to Virginia. </p>
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will give a
more detailed
report of what
happened in
the coming
days, but we
wanted to give
a shout out
tonight and a
huge thank you
to everyone
who supported
this effort.
Thousands of
people
volunteered,
mobilized, or
donated to
make this
success
possible.
Everyone
should feel
very proud.
Most
importantly,
we laid the
basis for
taking next
steps in
making this
new movement
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