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their own footprints.<br>
Two supposedly from an airplane smashing into them and one for no
apparent reason at all (wtc7)<br>
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A plane in pennsylvania and one near the pentagon seemed to
vanish.<br>
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The US declared war on a country obviously not involved,<br>
and the federal government took advantage of the situation to <br>
seize much power. <br>
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What's wrong with this picture?<br>
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<div dir="ltr">rather than attacking a specific group
because of their alleged character or lack thereof it
would be more effective interesting and challenging to
attack the attributes rather than the group. once they
call you an antisemite or a racist or a bigot it becomes
a reason to turn you off and ignore you. On 2018-09-02
20:18 , Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss Wrote:
additional stuff... There's an interesting and important
rift growing between Israel and American Jews, where the
American counterpart, to some degree, actually embraces
BDS and are anti-occupation. This can only mean, at the
deepest levels, where political labels are inadequate
and misleading and that more fundamental concepts are in
play. Those fundamentals probably have something to do
with the inherent decency, fairness, and humaneness of
humans. Evolution has instilled this in us and actually
pops out occasionally. There are actually Jews who are
against the slaughter of Palestinians. There really were
hundreds of Palestinian villages. They were all
bull-dozed into non-existence. The Palestinians did
nothing did deserve their plight. It's utterly sickening
watching their annihilation. <a
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</a>Palestine Remembered, al-Nakba 1948- פלשתינה-فلسطين
في الذاكرة Palestine Remembered, al-Nakba 1948-
פלשתינה-فلسطين في الذاكرة Palestine Remembered (فلسطين
في الذاكرة): The Home Of All Ethnically Cleansed
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" We do actually
agree on many subjects pertaining to antiwar and
racism.A recent post, maybe by CGE, drew parallels
between Corbyn's and Trump's battles with the
establishment (in US, the Dems, Libs, MSM, deep state).
I agree with this and believe it's an immensely
important bellwether in determining the future direction
of world politics. In Britain and the US, the
establishment is having a difficult time pinning the
antiSemitic, racist brands on Corbyn and Trump and their
supporters, respectively. The midterm elections will
best define the outcome of these efforts. Corbyn won't
sign off on the full IHRA definition because he, in
part, would betray a large segment of his followers and
subsequently lose power, just as in America, Trump's
success in fighting off the Dem / Clinton warmongers is
his Twitter habit and highly successful campaign rallies
that have seen eight of the last nine candidates that
he's supported win their seats. CNN, a bastion of
Netanyahu Zionism and anti-Trumpism, has ever
increasingly dismal ratings. The deep state
establishment has had to expose its flanks and true
motivations in their attempt to hold off Corbyn and
Trump....and their millions of followers. A significant
portion of Corbyn's supporters sees the full IHRA for
what it is....that being an open license to murder
Palestinians with impunity and censor any criticism of
Israel. And, a plethora of laws against Holocaust
revisionism in Europe has been very successful in
censoring debate, but the tactic is showing signs of
weakening. Merkel and many other EU leaders have had to
compromise with nationalistic movements, which they try
to characterize as NeoNazis, but all that does is
embolden those that see the light. Ultimately,
nationalism is probably more a form of natural
territoriality than anything else and thus impossible to
hijack and twist its meaning. All wars are banker's wars
and Jews and philo-semites have dominating banking since
the invention of money. There is a weight of proof of
this, it's just never mentioned in the MSM for obvious
reasons. Jews have been highly successful at legislating
censor of any opposition to their behaviors, but,
because of the internet and the demise of the MSM, it is
becoming a failing enterprise. They try to brand it
racism, but that is illogical once a full recognition of
Jewish history is brought to light.
So-called 'Antisemitism' is really just abhorrence of
unethical or criminal activity and is not rooted in
things people cannot change such as skin color, sexual
preference. In the early 20th century it was common to
refer to Jews as a race, but that has disappeared
because of scientific recognition that this was an
error. Once people really dig into the details why they
were expelled from over 100 countries since Biblical
Times and start to question the official interpretations
of Jewish history, the walls start crumbling down.
Corbyn and Trump are at the forefront of a new era of
politics. Will anti-Semite Jeremy Corbyn be the next
British PM? - The Boston Globe | | | | | | | | | | |
Will anti-Semite Jeremy Corbyn be the next British PM? -
The Boston Globe Michael A. Cohen - Columnist The
British Labour party leader’s anti-Semitism has become a
stench too powerful to ignore. | | | On Saturday,
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" whatsa tha
point debating those things that are generally agreed
upon. entropy exists. politicians lie. americans kinda
expect that. the electorate is stupid and sheep-like
democrats hate the first ten amendments. those in power
do incredible stunts to keep it. debate is fun, though.
On 2018-09-01 23:13 , Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss
Wrote: No takers...on a debate... I think it is much
more because of fear than indifference... My
international presence refutes the idea that I'm
insignificant. There's no fear of you looking badly in
the encounter, for you have no audience...other than
internally. Be brave, You can do it. On Saturday,
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Alex Jones article by Stephen Francis Message-ID: <<a
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" My challenge
to debate anyone on Peace-Discuss...on CGE's show
remains in effect.It would vastly increase the
viewership of that show. It would be your chance to make
me look bad if you think you could get away with
it...it's possible...I'm not very effective on
videos...I've noticed that those videos only receive
less than a handful of viewers...do I have any takers?
On Saturday, September 1, 2018, 7:19:51 AM CST, Stephen
Francis <<a ymailto="mailto:stephenf1113@yahoo.com"
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wrote: One of the reasons that I have 40-60,000 pages
downloaded per month on my website is pages like the one
linked below...It contains an MS Excel spreadsheet, that
I created, with 2000 rows of corroborated facts about
9/11.If the hijackers didn't do 9/11, then who did...the
answer is cabal of US, British and Israeli
criminals....9-11 TRUTH SEARCH ENGINE, Zionists/Neocons
nuked wtc And this is backed up by professional and
academic organizations. see below | | | | | | | | | |
| 9-11 TRUTH SEARCH ENGINE, Zionists/Neocons nuked wtc |
| | The accusation that there are no provable facts
concerning 9/11 is just propaganda and methods used to
shut down the debate.Over 3000 architects and engineers
have scientifically proven the WTC's destruction could
not have happened according to the 'official'
version.Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth | | |
| | | | | | | | Architects & Engineers for 9/11
Truth | | | Professor Hulsey (forensics engineer, dept
head) of UofAlaska did a two-year study of WTC Building
7 and came up with the same conclusion...WTC 7
Evaluation | | | | | | | | | | | WTC 7 Evaluation WTC
7 EVALUATION | | | These are professional scientific
unrefutable factual studies...that make your statements
about no facts rubbishIsrael Nuked WTC On Saturday,
September 1, 2018, 4:17:42 AM CST, C G Estabrook <<a
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wrote: It would be flabbergasting if Francis’ farrago
of fantasy and fear didn’t contain even one fact, and I
think I've found it (no one can be wrong all the time),
viz. and to wit: > The Democratic Party ... have lost
power and are pulling out all stops to regain it. Its
Political Correctness wing is somewhat familiar
[“deplorables”], but recent illegal activities
(Fisagate) and this full-bore double-standard censorship
is a new development and a sign of desperation. And
here’s a specific for this madness (the poets often get
there first): <<a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://consentfactory.org/2018/06/15/awaiting-the-putin-nazi-apocalypse/</a>>.
—CGE > On Sep 1, 2018, at 4:22 AM, Roger Helbig via
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wrote: > > Neither Holocaust Denial nor 9/11 Truth
are " It's just forensic criminal investigation based
on facts. It's impossible to set up the mechanisms to
try to sort out interpretations of those facts as to
whether they are true or not." - these are about as
"forensic" as a Trump Tweet! Just like Trump, they are
not free to make up their own facts. > > Roger
> > > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 5:49 AM
Stephen Francis <<a
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wrote: > The article is mostly concerned with
Cultural Marxism and its insidious and pervasive
influence on our culture and academia. It's origins
(Jewish, Frankfurt School), reach and influence are all
buried and taboo topics in the MSM. > > Much of
what Jones talks about has fundamental roots in that
Cultural Marxism which IS Multiculturalism (unfettered
immigration), Political Correctness (censorship), BLM,
Taking a knee...etc. The Democratic Party's strategies
are rife with Cultural Marxist techniques. Hillary
Clinton was mentored by Saul Alinsky, an avowed Cultural
Marxist. That's the point I'm trying to make. They are
not interested in the rights and welfare of
citizens...it's all about power and taking down Trump.
> > Alex Jones is a nut case as I pointed out. His
net effect on the so-called conspiracy theory world is
probably negative. > Facebook was correct in banning
Jones on the basis of threats to Mueller and Muslim hate
speech. The problem is that Facebook, Google, MSM have
a double standard in these actions. They demonstrably
attack conservative content while ignoring like
'liberal', Left instances. It's called shadow-banning.
Conservatives in Congress are taking action to attempt
to stop it....good luck with that. > > They (big
social media) haven't banned many so-called 'conspiracy
theories' like 9/11 Truth, JFK assassination or
Holocaust hoax content because ultimately it is not
'hate speech'. It's just forensic criminal investigation
based on facts. It's impossible to set up the mechanisms
to try to sort out interpretations of those facts as to
whether they are true or not...and in doing so it gives
these subjects airtime...a familiar taboo. > > As
you say, Facebook is a private company not subject to
the First Amendment, but there are practical limits to
how they can police their content. 9/11, JFK and the
Holocaust run into these limits. > > thus the
following Facebook excerpt. > > " .... upon
review, we have taken it (Alex Jones) down for
glorifying violence, which violates our graphic violence
policy, and using dehumanizing language to describe
people who are transgender, Muslims and immigrants,
which violates our hate speech policies." All four Pages
have been unpublished for repeated violations of
Community Standards and accumulating too many strikes.
While much of the discussion around Infowars has been
related to false news, which is a serious issue that we
are working to address by demoting links marked wrong by
fact checkers and suggesting additional content, none of
the violations that spurred today’s removals were
related to this." > <a
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</a>> > violations > > > > > On
Wednesday, August 22, 2018, 6:01:53 AM CST, Roger Helbig
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wrote: > > > Since Fetzer is one of his nut
case minions like Mr Francis, I am sure he supports Alex
Jones's right to lie to millions about pretty much
everything in order to foster various conspiracies! It
is too bad that Fetzer once was a professor of some
renown. There are number of great answers posted to
Quora that explain much of what Fetzer and Francis
refuse to believe. - Facebook is not subject to the
First Amendment - it is a private company, not the
Government! Neither is Google/YouTube. > > Roger
Helbig > > By the way Mr Francis, thought about
you while watching the latter part of GI Jews on PBS - <a
href="https://www.pbs.org/wnet/gi-jews/%20"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.pbs.org/wnet/gi-jews/
</a>Fetzer should watch too. There really was a
Holocaust. > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 4:47 AM
Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss <<a
ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net"
href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>>
wrote: > POSTED BY JIM FETZER AT 7:25 PM > > <a
href="https://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2018/08/stephen-francis-qualified-support-for.html%20"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2018/08/stephen-francis-qualified-support-for.html
</a>> > TUESDAY, AUGUST 21, 2018 > Stephen
Francis: Qualified Support for Alex Jones > >
Stephen Francis > > > The First Amendment and
Censorship > > Alex Jones has returned to the
center of the free speech debate with a vengeance. It is
vitally important to dig into the fine details of why
the major social media and content sites suspended and
then banned him. All sides of the arguments contain
evidence of hidden motives and agendas. > > At
first glance, this whole episode seems to somewhat
mirror the efforts of the anti-Trump forces
(#Resistance) to connect him to the Alt-Right, neo-Nazis
and (staged) anti-Semites as they did in
Charlottesville. None of their varied attempts to do
this have worked mainly because the rank and file Trump
/ Jones supporters are mainstream non-radical
conservatives who s<br>
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