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FYI. A very strong query and recommendation. The problem is whether the DNC will even come close to considering this request.
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<b class=""><span style="font-size:24pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"" class="">Tell the DNC to Hold a War and Peace Debate<span class=""></span></span></b></div>
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We write to you as U.S. residents who support holding a debate on climate and a separate debate on war and peace.<span class=""></span></p>
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While the U.S. military is our single largest consumer of petroleum, and its activities are excluded from climate agreements, and its budget is a key potential source of funding for a serious effort to slow the damage of climate collapse, we can safely expect
corporate media moderators to avoid any in-depth discussion of militarism during a climate debate or any other debate.
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During the first pair of debates, some candidates were questioned very briefly on war and peace, others not at all. None were asked for any rough estimate of what federal discretionary spending should look like, whether the majority should go into militarism
or not. None were asked about the impacts of militarism on U.S. society. None were asked for a full list of which wars they would end, or even how many wars they were aware of.<span class=""></span></p>
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Why do scientists believe the risk of nuclear apocalypse is greater than ever, and what would you do about it? That is a critical question that has not been asked.
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Economists at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst have <a href="https://www.peri.umass.edu/publication/item/449-the-u-s-employment-effects-of-military-and-domestic-spending-priorities-2011-update" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" class="">
documented</a> that military spending is an economic drain rather than a jobs program. Do we need a conversion to peaceful industries, and what would your plan look like? This question has not been asked.<span class=""></span></p>
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by one calculation</a>, now 68% of federal discretionary spending. A public policy debate that avoids mentioning its existence is not a public policy debate at all. Should military spending go up or down or remain unchanged? Are any of these things that could
be funded with a small fraction of it higher priorities, and how would each candidate rank them: free public college, conversion to clean energy, ending starvation globally, building public transit, etc.?
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Does militarism protect or endanger? Does it create or fend off refugees? Does it promote or reduce bigotry? Have we gained or lost freedoms during recent wars? These are basic questions that will not arise in the current debate format.<span class=""></span></p>
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So are these: Would you end weapons sales and the provision of military training to any governments? Which ones? Would you close any foreign bases? Which ones? How many bases does the United States have? Would you halt or continue the practice of murder by
missiles from drones? Would you sign and urge ratification of any human rights treaties? Which ones? These are questions that are not going to be tossed in between healthcare, abortion, and commercial breaks. We are not going to obtain a clear vision of what
each candidate is likely to do on foreign policy unless we have a full debate on foreign policy.<span class=""></span></p>
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<div class="">So who can draft the call for this? Medea<br class="">
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<div dir="auto" class="">That's a great idea gar but maybe not just the veterans. I love the idea of getting Tulsi on board. Do you want to draft a letter that we will use to get groups on board? </div>
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<div style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="">Might make a difference if our pro-peace veterans groups issued a joint public demand for a presidential debate on foreign policy/war-and-peace.
<div class="">Perhaps they/we could elicit calls for support from the two military vets in the race—Mayor Pete and Tulsi.</div>
<div class="">And the Green New Dealers, of course — plus coordinated calls to progressives Warren and Sanders.<br class="">
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<div dir="auto" class="">I think it is more accurate to say we are enthusiastic but lousy organizers. We don't know how to get the energy needed to make it possible. I'm all for it and happy to talk about how to push it. Medea </div>
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<div class="">Specific debates on foreign policy is an important idea. So far it has been missing in the presidential debates. Why are the peace groups unenthusiastic, if they are, about this idea? Doesn’t seem logical. The implication is that the population
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Plenty of interest on my part. I cannot travel long distances right away, but I put my two bits worth in whenever I can. See world beyond wars of tri-cities, washington. <a href="https://worldbeyondwar.org/tricities/" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" target="_blank" class="">https://worldbeyondwar.org/tricities/</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Sounds like there may be a debate on climate change.Because of lots of pressure on DNC. We should also have a debate on foreign policy, but lack of interest from peace groups, it seems. Let's get going for
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<a href="http://rootsaction.org/" target="_blank" class="">RootsAction.org</a>. Swanson's
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<a href="http://rootsaction.org/" target="_blank" class="">RootsAction.org</a>. Swanson's
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<i class=""><a href="http://warisalie.org/" target="_blank" class="">War Is A Lie</a></i>. He blogs at
<a href="http://davidswanson.org/" target="_blank" class="">DavidSwanson.org</a> and
<a href="http://warisacrime.org/" target="_blank" class="">WarIsACrime.org</a>. He hosts
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