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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Midge,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The handle “ Oakland Socialist “ belongs to a FORMER Carpenter friend of mine who became obsessed with Syria and supporting the CIA backed jihadists, calling them “ The Syrian People’s revolution “. He is sincere in his ridiculous beliefs. We had a falling out over this ( his choice not mine ) because I refused to support his view, even though I acknowledged that Assad was a brutal asshole. That wasn’t good enough for him. I felt as if a family member had joined some fucked up religious cult. He also hates the YPG Kurds, who I did / do support.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>David J. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces@lists.chambana.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mildred O'brien via Peace-discuss<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 20, 2019 11:24 AM<br><b>To:</b> davegreen84@yahoo.com; peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net<br><b>Subject:</b> [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Hillary smears Tulsi as "Russian asset"<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>The Oakland "Socialist"? "Marxmail"? (in DNC clothing trying to slam socialism with twisted analysis), like Nora O'Donnell (who muscled her way in as anchor of CBS news) opening Friday CBS Evening News with "breaking news": Tulsi Gabbard has been identified as a Russian asset with their attempt to interfere again in the 2020 election (I'm paraphrasing), picking up I suppose with the NYT report of Hillary's slander of Tulsi and Jill Stein as Russian assets and hanging out with Assad, in a feeble attempt to test the waters for what I suspect is her leap into the Democratic primary (release of a new book is the sure sign). She picked the wrong targets to malign; Tulsi,responded with a beautiful description of Hillary's political foibles with a perfect barrage. Did Hill think she could smear a couple of fringe potential enemies to avenge her past or present defeats with slanderous invective? Did she really think tarring them red would stick? Apparently it did, at least momentarily with the MSM and loyal feminist Hillary supporters, guilty themselves with spreading the slander as fact (more of Trump's "fake news"). <br><br>Midge <br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: David Green via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net><br>To: Robert Naiman <naiman.uiuc@gmail.com><br>Cc: Peace-discuss List <peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net><br>Sent: Fri, Oct 18, 2019 4:46 pm<br>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Hillary smears Tulsi as "Russian asset"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=yiv9272991874><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Look at what the "Oakland Socialist" says, also a link on the Marxmail website: <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:11.25pt;margin-left:0in'><strong><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'>Syria, Tulsi Gabbard and red-brown alliance</span></strong><b><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'><br></span></b><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'>One of the most spirited subjects to be discussed was foreign policy, specifically Syria, and here is where the truly dangerous nature of Tulsi Gabbard emerged. All the candidates but her strongly condemned Trump’s actions. While Gabbard mildly criticized it, her main point was to call for an end to “the regime change war that we are waging in Syria”. She repeated this phrase – “regime change wars” – time and again. This is the term the overt and covert Assad supporters use. They claim that the revolt in Syria is just a US effort at regime change. Along the way, they dismiss or ignore Assad’s absolutely criminal repression. So Gabbard was making a dog whistle to them. (At least Biden attacked her for this lie of hers.)</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:11.25pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'>The issue of Syria is the key nexus where the “left” and the far right, including outright fascists, meet, and Tulsi Gabbard is playing the role of the magnet for this tendency within the Democratic Party. She seems to be very conscious of that, as she was the only one to be fairly restrained also when the issue of a woman’s right to choose, a woman’s control over her own body, came up. In the few minutes allotted to her, Gabbard chose to talk against third trimester abortions. Regardless of whether she is right or not, this again is a dog whistle for the anti-abortion crowd.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div id=yiv9272991874yqt79614><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 4:38 PM Robert Naiman via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Tulsi hits back: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1185289626409406464" target="_blank">https://mobile.twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1185289626409406464</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><img border=0 width=460 height=563 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.png@01D5873D.915BB940" alt=image.png><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 1:06 PM Robert Naiman <<a href="mailto:naiman.uiuc@gmail.com" target="_blank">naiman.uiuc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>This is breathtaking. There must be pushback. Hillary doesn't use Tulsi's name but as you can see from the responses everybody is assuming that Tulsi is who she is talking about. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="https://twitter.com/aaronblake/status/1185196559941722113" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/aaronblake/status/1185196559941722113</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><img border=0 width=492 height=543 id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image002.png@01D5873D.915BB940" alt=image.png><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>Peace-discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank">Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div></div></div><div id=yqt43291><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>Peace-discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>