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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I support the Green party and I voted proudly for Jill Stein in 2016, and I think Tulsi is great !<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I will be voting for Sanders, but I am glad Tulsi is running and on the debate stage speaking out forcefully against U.S. destabilizations and war, and hopefully will give Sanders some courage and encouragement to do likewise. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sanders USE to be a LOT better on foreign policy and I would like to see him return to those positions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>There has been a lot of great postings on this list recently, so I would hope that we can keep differences of opinions on analysis and other nuances from getting flared up to assume the worse about those we disagree with and turn it into personal attacks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It is counterproductive to why we are on this list.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>David Johnson<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces@lists.chambana.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Naiman via Peace-discuss<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 23, 2019 2:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> Karen Aram<br><b>Cc:</b> Peace-discuss List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Katie Halper: “Amy Klobuchar is an Israeli asset.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>Of course you hate Tulsi Gabbard. You're a Green Party Trot. Hating on Tulsi Gabbard is the Green Party Trot line. <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 3:45 PM Karen Aram <<a href="mailto:karenaram@hotmail.com">karenaram@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>Hah, I don’t hate Tulsi, I would love her if I thought she was genuine, I fear she isn’t. I would love to be proven wrong, as I was when I supported Obama. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>As to humiliating me, no you merely show your true character, with your personal attacks. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>Trolling you? No, which is why I left the Peace Discuss List, so I wouldn’t have to read the nonsense that often appears here. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>However, I think its important to point out what some Democrats are attempting to hide, that is the goal of US wars is hegemony, by way of imperialism. The fact that they are wars of imperialism, needs to be emphasized and understood. It’s a result of capitalism which requires imperialism to survive, meaning new markets, and control of others resources. Regime change is only one step or one tool used in the process. Important, as if we have puppets in power that we can utilize and support, it’s easy to control. It’s what we attempt to achieve usually through covert interventions, and in failing to do so, we will resort to sanctions, drones, bombs, war, troops, etc. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>Perhaps given the Green Party is coming to Champaign for their annual conference, I am reminded of your lies and slander of Jill Stein a couple years ago, not unlike that which Hillary is doing to her and Tulsi now, so the temptation to call you out on subterfuge of any kind is hard to resist.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>Have a good day, and thank you for all you do. :)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>On Oct 23, 2019, at 10:59, Robert Naiman <<a href="mailto:naiman.uiuc@gmail.com" target="_blank">naiman.uiuc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>It was a rhetorical question. You were concern trolling me because you hate Tulsi Gabbard. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>I couldn't pass up the opportunity to humiliate you again for being such a moron. Sorry. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 1:35 PM Karen Aram <<a href="mailto:karenaram@hotmail.com" target="_blank">karenaram@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>If you have to ask the question……. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>On Oct 23, 2019, at 09:34, Robert Naiman <<a href="mailto:naiman.uiuc@gmail.com" target="_blank">naiman.uiuc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>"At this point, what difference does it make?"<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 11:22 AM Karen Aram <<a href="mailto:karenaram@hotmail.com" target="_blank">karenaram@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>Bob <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>Your uncloaking of the Israeli asset, etc. is admirable. but not all of the US wars are necessarily regime change wars, however they are all wars of imperialism. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>On Oct 23, 2019, at 07:48, Robert Naiman via Peace <<a href="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank">peace@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>It appears that the G-d of Hosts may be revealing His purpose for the recent intervention of the Queen of the Warmongers. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>Some people in the Democratic Party are now claiming Free Speech rights about the King of the Benjamins. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>Neither the Queen nor the King can touch Katie Halper. Katie Halper is <i>Important</i>. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>We tried to do something about Yemen War Powers at the DNC. The answer came back: sorry, so sorry. We weren’t able to get this “vetted by the donors.” <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>The first time we tried to do Yemen War Powers in Congress, Engel & Shaheen said: this is no-go. It would set a bad precedent that would interfere with U.S. policy in Ukraine. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>The Queen, the King, and their subjects try to maintain a “broken windows policing” policy in the Democratic Party on any proposed U.S. withdrawal from any imperial commitments. Today it’s northern Syria. Tomorrow it might be Puerto Rico or Hawaii. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>Of course, this is histrionics. But these people believe in the slippery slope. If a lot of it would make you drunk, a little bit is forbidden. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>Let Justice Democrats roll down like waters. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>End these regime change wars.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><a href="https://twitter.com/kthalps/status/1186814689709383680" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/kthalps/status/1186814689709383680</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><image.png><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>_______________________________________________<br>Peace mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Peace@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank">Peace@lists.chambana.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace" target="_blank">https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></body></html>