<div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:black;"><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Sent: Tue, Oct 13, 2020 2:04 pm<br>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Data on degrees/jobs<br><br></div><div id="yiv7548659163"><div><div style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: black;"><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Are there really currently only some 360,000 first degree-college graduates a year? It would seem many more than that--I wonder what is the percentage of grads to peer-eligible non-graduates. I would venture that the majority of college graduates are technically trained rather than "educated"--in history, philosophy, sciences, mathematics, languages, and literature--and think that a basic liberal arts curriculum for at least two years should constitute an undergraduate program prior to professional or technical training (which many graduates pursue in advanced graduate training anyway), which would better prepare the college graduate to consider his/her place in the universe and contribute to a more cooperative, equitable environment instead of climbing the class-based ladder of elitism. </div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Midge</div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv7548659163yqt9687593382" id="yiv7548659163yqt73213"><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;"><br clear="none">-----Original Message-----<br clear="none">From: David Green via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net><br clear="none">To: Brussel, Morton K <brussel@illinois.edu><br clear="none">Cc: Peace-discuss <peace-discuss@lists.chambana.ne<br clear="none">Sent: Mon, Oct 12, 2020 8:34 pm<br clear="none">Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Data on degrees/jobs<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv7548659163"><div><div>It would at least be desirable to have something that could be credibly called liberal or civic studies that would be freely available, if demanding and rigorous, to those so intellectually inclined, clearly delineated from vocational, technical, and professional studies, which should be in accord with the demands for such labor; although these approaches should not be seen as mutually exclusive for any individual, especially in the context of a normal lifetime.</div><br clear="none"><div class="yiv7548659163yqt3087635347" id="yiv7548659163yqt38628"><div class="yiv7548659163gmail_quote"><div class="yiv7548659163gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 8:55 PM Brussel, Morton K <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:brussel@illinois.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:brussel@illinois.edu">brussel@illinois.edu</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="yiv7548659163gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;" data-mce-style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;">
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So, it seems best that students not aspire to enter the universities. Were things better, more progressive, without higher education?
<div>Yes, the problems of jobs/decent employment/ in the future, and perhaps even now is a major conundrum. Clearly, new economic models will have to be invented, and realized. Hopefully much more egalitarian. <br clear="none">
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<div>On Oct 12, 2020, at 1:08 PM, David Green <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:davidgreen50@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:davidgreen50@gmail.com">davidgreen50@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">As a data-based follow-up to the article about the "Rump Professional Class," one can find some interesting charts about the "overproduction" of college grads in this article:
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