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AWARE will have a table at the Farmer's Market, for the first time
this season, tomorrow morning -- Saturday, May 13th, 8am-noon.<br>
<br>
We'll have a collection of anti-war flyers, as well as buttons and
bumper stickers.<br>
<br>
I'll also bring some copies of the Black Students for Revolution's
demands - we can talk about them with whoever stops by. On the
whole I think that they're admirable.<br>
<br>
Another admirable effort - hearing about this now - is the
#SaltwaterChallenge international campaign, which <a
href="https://www.facebook.com/SJP.UIUC/">Students from Justice in
Palestine UIUC</a> is participating in, in solidarity with some
1700 Palestinians in Israeli prisons who are protesting the only way
they can: through a hunger strike, now in its 21st day. Theirs is
a risky effort which merits our awareness and support.<br>
<br>
SJP UIUC thanks several other UIUC student groups as supporting them
in that effort, including
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<a class="profileLink" href="https://www.facebook.com/BSFRUIUC/"
data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/page.php?id=1565604830329941"
data-hovercard-prefer-more-content-show="1"
data-hovercard-obj-id="1565604830329941">Black Students for
Revolution</a>, <a class="profileLink"
href="https://www.facebook.com/AllBlackUIUC/"
data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/page.php?id=378320725837956"
data-hovercard-prefer-more-content-show="1"
data-hovercard-obj-id="378320725837956">Black United Front UIUC</a>,
<a class="profileLink"
href="https://www.facebook.com/UIUCBeyondCoal/"
data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/page.php?id=145669875526640"
data-hovercard-prefer-more-content-show="1"
data-hovercard-obj-id="145669875526640">UIUC Beyond Coal</a>, <a
class="profileLink" href="https://www.facebook.com/ummauiuc/"
data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/page.php?id=472251469496138"
data-hovercard-prefer-more-content-show="1"
data-hovercard-obj-id="472251469496138">UMMA UIUC</a>, and <a
class="profileLink" href="https://www.facebook.com/ASAUIUC/"
data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/page.php?id=151964768281790"
data-hovercard-prefer-more-content-show="1"
data-hovercard-obj-id="151964768281790">Arab Student Association
at UIUC</a>.<br>
<br>
Stuart<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/11/17 10:13 AM, Harry Mickalide
via Peace-discuss wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CANNeTNE+TvtCE1LbzTX1ZU6moR2djS+4W67Znk8O3Vi1R_Senw@mail.gmail.com"
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<div dir="ltr">Carl, here is my frustration. You continue to
assert that BSFR (Black Students for Revolution) is engaging in
identity politics at the expense of being anti-capitalist and
anti-war when multiple people have told you that BSFR is very
much anti-capitalist and anti-war.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Here are some quotes from their list of demands to prove
it.</div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands">https://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands</a><br>
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<div>From demand 1</div>
<div><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:din-next-w01-light,din-next-w02-light,din-next-w10-light,sans-serif;font-size:17px;text-align:center">"While
students are being handcuffed with loans, private lenders
are making a profit and the federal government is spending
public funds on wars, drones, wall street bailouts, and
corporate subsidies. Situated at the intersection of white
supremacy, capitalism, and patriarchy, today’s education
model marginalizes and excludes both the working class and
students of color. As a first step towards a tuition-free
and debt-free reality within higher education, we demand
that tuition hikes come to an immediate and permanent end,
and that MAP Grants, regardless of state funding, should
continue to be issued to recipients."</span><br>
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<div><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:din-next-w01-light,din-next-w02-light,din-next-w10-light,sans-serif;font-size:17px;text-align:center"><br>
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<div>From demand 8<span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:din-next-w01-light,din-next-w02-light,din-next-w10-light,sans-serif;font-size:17px;text-align:center"><br>
</span></div>
<div>"<span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:din-next-w01-light,din-next-w02-light,din-next-w10-light,sans-serif;font-size:17px;text-align:center">We
believe adequate shelter, food, water, and health care are
human rights owed to all workers, and that a living wage is
a first step in ensuring that for all people."</span></div>
<div><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:din-next-w01-light,din-next-w02-light,din-next-w10-light,sans-serif;font-size:17px;text-align:center"><br>
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<div>From demand 13<br>
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<div>They call for divestment from "<span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:din-next-w01-light,din-next-w02-light,din-next-w10-light,sans-serif;font-size:17px;text-align:center">corporations
which actively support or enable states currently carrying
out human right’s abuses (e.g., Israel, Saudi Arabia,
Myanmar), all private prison corporations, and all private
military contractors and weapons manufacturers."</span></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Despite this clear overlap between the goals of AWARE and
BSFR, you refuse to support them because they are also
choosing to rally around their shared blackness? That seems
hella racist to me.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 9:20 AM, Carl
G. Estabrook via Peace <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank">peace@lists.chambana.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span
style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">More useful than
Google (not, perhaps, the most revolutionary
organization...) is the ‘Search’ function on the
Peace-discuss archives, Karen.</span>
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<div style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">This is from
six months ago, re <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands"
target="_blank">https://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-<wbr>demands</a>>:</div>
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<blockquote type="cite">...The list certainly raises
(once again) questions of the nature and provenance of
identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton
campaign).<br>
See Adolph Reed's mordant description … :<br>
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<span class="m_855079275444735667Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>"[Identity]
politics is not an alternative to class politics; it
is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of
neoliberalism. It is the expression and active agency
of a political order and moral economy in which
capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable
nature.<br>
<span class="m_855079275444735667Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>"An
integral element of that moral economy is displacement
of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by
capitalist class power onto equally naturalized
categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into
groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are
rather than what we do. As I have argued, following
Walter Michaels and others, within that moral economy
a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90%
of the resources could be just, provided that roughly
12% of the 1% were black, 12% were Latino, 50% were
women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were
LGBT people.<br>
<span class="m_855079275444735667Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>"It
would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that
expresses more unambiguously the social position of
people who consider themselves candidates for
inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions
in service to, the ruling class” <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://bennorton.com/adolph-reed-identity-politics-is-neoliberalism/"
target="_blank">http://bennorton.com/adolph-<wbr>reed-identity-politics-is-<wbr>neoliberalism/</a>>.<br>
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It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US
war-making can arise from identity politics. (Not
enough blacks and women among Special Forces killers?)<br>
It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic
and foreign class conflicts; given that we’ve killed
more than 20 million in 37 nations since WWII, we
should be clear about causes.<br>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.popularresistance.org/us-has-killed-more-than-20-million-in-37-nations-since-wwii/"
target="_blank">https://www.<wbr>popularresistance.org/us-has-<wbr>killed-more-than-20-million-<wbr>in-37-nations-since-wwii/</a>>.<br>
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AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage
awareness of how and why the US government is the
greatest purveyor of violence in the world today.<br>
And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the
devil, as Hotspur says. <br>
<br>
I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands
contributes to that effort. —CGE<br>
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<div>Six months on, and as worthwhile as some of the
goals of the demands seem, that still seems right to
me. </div>
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<div>Regards, Carl</div>
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<div>On May 11, 2017, at 9:06 AM, kmedina67 via
Peace <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net"
target="_blank">peace@lists.chambana.net</a>>
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<div>Carl, Google it.</div>
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<div>-------- Original message --------</div>
<div>From: "Carl G. Estabrook" </div>
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Send me their list of demands (and read Reed…)
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<div>> wrote:</div>
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<div>Point to items on their list
that are identity politics</div>
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<div>-------- Original message
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<div><span style="font-size:100%"> e.g.
Adolph Reed’s critique:</span></div>
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<div><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://bennorton.com/adolph-reed-identity-politics-is-neoliberalism/"
target="_blank">http://bennorton.com/adolph-<wbr>reed-identity-politics-is-<wbr>neoliberalism/</a>>.<br>
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<div>AWARE was founded to foster
local opposition to US
war-making and racism - and, by
implication, capitalism, the
source of both.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We should be willing to
cooperate with others who have
effective ways to do that as
well.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>But as Reed explains,
identity politics is a defense
of capitalism - and therefore at
best only accidentally useful in
an anti-war anti-racism effort.
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<div>—CGE<br>
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<div>Carl, </div>
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<div>It is online. I
can't copy and paste
the url from my cell
phone. But you can
Google their
demands.</div>
<div>-karen medina</div>
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