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    AWARE will have a table at the Farmer's Market, for the first time
    this season, tomorrow morning -- Saturday, May 13th, 8am-noon.<br>
    <br>
    We'll have a collection of anti-war flyers, as well as buttons and
    bumper stickers.<br>
    <br>
    I'll also bring some copies of the Black Students for Revolution's
    demands - we can talk about them with whoever stops by.   On the
    whole I think that they're admirable.<br>
    <br>
    Another admirable effort - hearing about this now - is the
    #SaltwaterChallenge international campaign, which <a
      href="https://www.facebook.com/SJP.UIUC/">Students from Justice in
      Palestine UIUC</a> is participating in, in solidarity with some
    1700 Palestinians in Israeli prisons who are protesting the only way
    they can: through a hunger strike, now in its 21st day.   Theirs is
    a risky effort which merits our awareness and support.<br>
    <br>
    SJP UIUC thanks several other UIUC student groups as supporting them
    in that effort, including
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      Revolution</a>, <a class="profileLink"
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      data-hovercard-obj-id="378320725837956">Black United Front UIUC</a>,
    <a class="profileLink"
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      data-hovercard-obj-id="145669875526640">UIUC Beyond Coal</a>, <a
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      data-hovercard-obj-id="472251469496138">UMMA UIUC</a>, and <a
      class="profileLink" href="https://www.facebook.com/ASAUIUC/"
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      data-hovercard-obj-id="151964768281790">Arab Student Association
      at UIUC</a>.<br>
    <br>
        Stuart<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/11/17 10:13 AM, Harry Mickalide
      via Peace-discuss wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CANNeTNE+TvtCE1LbzTX1ZU6moR2djS+4W67Znk8O3Vi1R_Senw@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div dir="ltr">Carl, here is my frustration. You continue to
        assert that BSFR (Black Students for Revolution) is engaging in
        identity politics at the expense of being anti-capitalist and
        anti-war when multiple people have told you that BSFR is very
        much anti-capitalist and anti-war.
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Here are some quotes from their list of demands to prove
          it.</div>
        <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="https://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands">https://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands</a><br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>From demand 1</div>
        <div><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:din-next-w01-light,din-next-w02-light,din-next-w10-light,sans-serif;font-size:17px;text-align:center">"While
            students are being handcuffed with loans, private lenders
            are making a profit and the federal government is spending
            public funds on wars, drones, wall street bailouts, and
            corporate subsidies. Situated at the intersection of white
            supremacy, capitalism, and patriarchy, today’s education
            model marginalizes and excludes both the working class and
            students of color. As a first step towards a tuition-free
            and debt-free reality within higher education, we demand
            that tuition hikes come to an immediate and permanent end,
            and that MAP Grants, regardless of state funding, should
            continue to be issued to recipients."</span><br>
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        <div><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:din-next-w01-light,din-next-w02-light,din-next-w10-light,sans-serif;font-size:17px;text-align:center"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div>From demand 8<span
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          </span></div>
        <div>"<span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:din-next-w01-light,din-next-w02-light,din-next-w10-light,sans-serif;font-size:17px;text-align:center">We
            believe adequate shelter, food, water, and health care are
            human rights owed to all workers, and that a living wage is
            a first step in ensuring that for all people."</span></div>
        <div><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:din-next-w01-light,din-next-w02-light,din-next-w10-light,sans-serif;font-size:17px;text-align:center"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div>From demand 13<br>
        </div>
        <div>They call for divestment from "<span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:din-next-w01-light,din-next-w02-light,din-next-w10-light,sans-serif;font-size:17px;text-align:center">corporations
            which actively support or enable states currently carrying
            out human right’s abuses (e.g., Israel, Saudi Arabia,
            Myanmar), all private prison corporations, and all private
            military contractors and weapons manufacturers."</span></div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Despite this clear overlap between the goals of AWARE and
          BSFR, you refuse to support them because they are also
          choosing to rally around their shared blackness? That seems
          hella racist to me.</div>
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      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 9:20 AM, Carl
          G. Estabrook via Peace <span dir="ltr"><<a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank">peace@lists.chambana.net</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span
                style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">More useful than
                Google (not, perhaps, the most revolutionary
                organization...) is the ‘Search’ function on the
                Peace-discuss archives, Karen.</span>
              <div style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT"><br>
              </div>
              <div style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">This is from
                six months ago, re <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="https://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-demands"
                  target="_blank">https://www.bsfruiuc.com/our-<wbr>demands</a>>:</div>
              <div style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT"><br>
              </div>
              <div style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">
                <blockquote type="cite">...The list certainly raises
                  (once again) questions of the nature and provenance of
                  identity politics (the mainstay of the Clinton
                  campaign).<br>
                  See Adolph Reed's mordant description … :<br>
                  <br>
                  <span class="m_855079275444735667Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap">      </span>"[Identity]
                  politics is not an alternative to class politics; it
                  is a class politics, the politics of the left-wing of
                  neoliberalism. It is the expression and active agency
                  of a political order and moral economy in which
                  capitalist market forces are treated as unassailable
                  nature.<br>
                  <span class="m_855079275444735667Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap">      </span>"An
                  integral element of that moral economy is displacement
                  of the critique of the invidious outcomes produced by
                  capitalist class power onto equally naturalized
                  categories of ascriptive identity that sort us into
                  groups supposedly defined by what we essentially are
                  rather than what we do. As I have argued, following
                  Walter Michaels and others, within that moral economy
                  a society in which 1% of the population controlled 90%
                  of the resources could be just, provided that roughly
                  12% of the 1% were black, 12% were Latino, 50% were
                  women, and whatever the appropriate proportions were
                  LGBT people.<br>
                  <span class="m_855079275444735667Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap">      </span>"It
                  would be tough to imagine a normative ideal that
                  expresses more unambiguously the social position of
                  people who consider themselves candidates for
                  inclusion in, or at least significant staff positions
                  in service to, the ruling class” <<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://bennorton.com/adolph-reed-identity-politics-is-neoliberalism/"
                    target="_blank">http://bennorton.com/adolph-<wbr>reed-identity-politics-is-<wbr>neoliberalism/</a>>.<br>
                  <br>
                  It’s difficult to see how a serious critique of US
                  war-making can arise from identity politics. (Not
                  enough blacks and women among Special Forces killers?)<br>
                  It would seem that US war-making arises from domestic
                  and foreign class conflicts; given that we’ve killed
                  more than 20 million in 37 nations since WWII, we
                  should be clear about causes.<br>
                  <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.popularresistance.org/us-has-killed-more-than-20-million-in-37-nations-since-wwii/"
                    target="_blank">https://www.<wbr>popularresistance.org/us-has-<wbr>killed-more-than-20-million-<wbr>in-37-nations-since-wwii/</a>>.<br>
                  <br>
                  AWARE has seen as its task for 15 years to encourage
                  awareness of how and why the US government is the
                  greatest purveyor of violence in the world today.<br>
                  And to do that we must tell the truth and shame the
                  devil, as Hotspur says. <br>
                  <br>
                  I’m not convinced that endorsing these demands
                  contributes to that effort. —CGE<br>
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                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Six months on, and as worthwhile as some of the
                  goals of the demands seem, that still seems right to
                  me. </div>
                <div><br>
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                <div>Regards, Carl</div>
                <div><br>
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                <div><br>
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                <div><br>
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                      <div>On May 11, 2017, at 9:06 AM, kmedina67 via
                        Peace <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net"
                          target="_blank">peace@lists.chambana.net</a>>
                        wrote:</div>
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                          <div>Carl, Google it.</div>
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                            <div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757"
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                            <div>-------- Original message --------</div>
                            <div>From: "Carl G. Estabrook" </div>
                            <div><br>
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                          </div>
                          Send me their list of demands (and read Reed…)
                          <div><br>
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                          <div><br>
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                                <div>> wrote:</div>
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                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Point to items on their list
                                      that are identity politics</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div style="font-size:100%">
                                      <div>-------- Original message
                                        --------</div>
                                      <div><span style="font-size:100%"> e.g.
                                          Adolph Reed’s critique:</span></div>
                                    </div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://bennorton.com/adolph-reed-identity-politics-is-neoliberalism/"
                                        target="_blank">http://bennorton.com/adolph-<wbr>reed-identity-politics-is-<wbr>neoliberalism/</a>>.<br>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>AWARE was founded to foster
                                        local opposition to US
                                        war-making and racism - and, by
                                        implication, capitalism, the
                                        source of both.</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>We should be willing to
                                        cooperate with others who have
                                        effective ways to do that as
                                        well.</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>But as Reed explains,
                                        identity politics is a defense
                                        of capitalism - and therefore at
                                        best only accidentally useful in
                                        an anti-war anti-racism effort.
                                         </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>—CGE<br>
                                        <div><br>
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                                                  <div>Carl,  </div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>It is online. I
                                                    can't copy and paste
                                                    the url from my cell
                                                    phone. But you can
                                                    Google their
                                                    demands.</div>
                                                  <div>-karen medina</div>
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