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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yes Deb,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I know the reality, but You don’t seem to have a clue as to what the REAL power dynamics are in this country.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Re-Read what I wrote ( especially the first paragraph ) and try to refute the specific points I made. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As long as people like you keep voting for corporate candidates, you are NOT resisting, you are collaborating !<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You are doing exactly what the ruling class wants.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>When I vote for the Green party it is NOT to “ sooth my conscience “, it is because I do NOT vote for anyone who does not represent my interests or the interests of working people in general. I don’t owe my vote to anyone, you have to EARN my vote. Therefore neither Trump or Biden or Londrigen or Durbin support any issues that will improve my life or the life of working people in general so, NO VOTE.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Not to mention that despite all of the ballot access obstacles that you and other partisan Democrats support that makes it ten times more difficult to get a 3<sup>rd</sup> party on the ballot and the prevention of Greens and other 3<sup>rd</sup> party candidates from being in public and televised debates, The Green party is still nevertheless the 3<sup>rd</sup> largest political party in the U.S. with over 140 elected officials around the country. Room to expand, definitely, and as polls have shown, more and more Americans are becoming increasingly disgusted with the U.S. political process and support by 60 % margin, the need for another 3<sup>rd</sup> party. So as things get worse, and they will regardless which rapist / racist / warmonger ( Biden or Trump ) gets elected, the Democratic party will become more and more irrelevant. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Until you stop voting for these bastards Deb, they will NOT take you seriously and things will continue to get worse and worse, just like they have for the last 40 years. What was the famous quote from Einstein ; The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Well that is what you and all of the other liberal Democrats are doing every 2-4 years. You keep making the same tired worn out arguments about how things will change for the better if we just keep voting for more Democrats, any Democrat , regardless of how bought and paid for they are by corporate money. And then you wonder why we are STILL on a FORTY YEAR decline and still declining.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Just a reminder, the largest voting bloc are those who consider themselves “ Independents “ = 48 % ( Vs. 26 % Democrats and 26 % Republicans = 52 % ).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Independents ( like me ) will NOT vote for someone like Joe Biden, just like in 2016 they ( and I ) refused to vote for Hillary Clinton, so unless something really dramatic happens between now and November, we will have another four years of Trump.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You can thank the DNC for that, so if you are happy with the rigged game ( using your casino analogy ) where we always lose and the corporate special interests always win, then keep playing if it makes you feel better. You can always say, ; “ Oh well that’s just how it is, oh well “.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>David J.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Debra Schrishuhn [mailto:deb.pdamerica@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 09, 2020 4:57 AM<br><b>To:</b> David Johnson<br><b>Cc:</b> Morton K. Brussel; Karen Aram; Peace<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Peace] A useful set of opinions and suggestions<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>David,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>I am not defending Joe Biden. The line I quoted was from Randall Nelson (see above). The stark reality is that either Donald Trump or Joe Biden will be our next President. To me, the choice is clear and I will (albeit reluctantly and without enthusiasm) cast my vote (probably by mail) for Biden. Joe Biden will win the 20 electoral votes of Illinois without your assistance. As the saying goes, you play the hand you are dealt, even though, as the laws of both gambling and physics remind us, you can't win, you can't break even, and you can't get out of the game. Nevertheless, we persist in our resistance. It's what humans do.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>Now, we can discuss the morality (or lack thereof) of the Electoral College 'til the proverbial cows come home, but sometime before January 20, 2021, they will convene and select the next U.S. President. We can hold up past Presidents, both Democrats and Republicans, as corporate-owned warmongers ultimately beholden to an elite ruling class. We are confronted, in less than six months, by a choice between Donald Trump and Joe Biden. Period. There is no viable or probable third choice.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>Vote Green Party if it soothes your conscience and helps you sleep at night. For the Green Party to be viable, it would need to start running and winning at the local level to demonstrate its ability to govern and grow a winning coalition. How many candidates does the local Green Party plan to run in November? In the consolidated local elections of 2021? How many candidates did the local Green Party run in 2018? 2019? Local governance is not sexy; it's a long slog through bureaucracy and petty fiefdoms of (too many) maladjusted people trying to be the big fish in a small pond. However, local governance is the place where coalitions are built (see career of Bernie Sanders, for example), both inside and outside the walls of power. For outside groups to gain power, they have to get inside without being corrupted. It's tough, and few manage to achieve any measure of success. No, power does not concede without a demand, but the demand must be backed up by currency, if you will, that power understands. That currency is a bloc of votes; first on the school board or city council, then on the county board, and up the ladder to state and federal offices. Start running candidates from your non-corporate party and go from there.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>Deb<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 1:09 PM David Johnson via Peace <<a href="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net">peace@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mort,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>To answer your question about if I care or not if Trump gets another term, then I with all due respect, ask you to re-read what I wrote.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In particular the very first sentence which I guess cannot be over emphasized.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It is a charade Mort, Joe Biden is NOT FDR and Donald Trump is NOT the anti-Christ Fascist many would like us to believe he is. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>BOTH Biden and Trump and the political parties that they represent are controlled by the SAME corporate donors who rule this country. Regardless which one of THEIR candidates is elected, the same policies will continue that they have already planned to implement.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In the meantime the ruling class will continue their tactics of ; divide and conquer, Kabuki theater distractions, and the latest evil foreigners / foreign governments we are supposed to fear and hate. The corporate media the oligarchy owns will create a reality TV show spectacle between now and the election ( if we have one ) to create the illusion that the election between Donald Trump VS. Joe Biden, or whoever the DNC replaces him with, will be the greatest show on earth, a battle for Armageddon, while the bi-partisan corporate ruling class sit back, laugh, and count all of their new money from the 6 TRILION DOLLAR robbery of us the taxpayers. It won’t matter to them who wins, they own both Trump and Biden. That is how corporate elites play, they always hedge their bets.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The only thing they fear is the emergence of a non-corporate third party controlled by THE PEOPLE.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>But at the moment we have the real threat of a pandemic, that the ruling class has used as a smoke screen to rob our public treasury, suspend Union contracts, and increase belligerent actions against Venezuela and other countries not under their control in the corporate Pax Americana empire. All in conjunction WITH the DEMOCRATS. This will be real interesting to see how this plays out come November 2020 election day, to see how or even IF we have an election. Whatever transpires it will NOT be Trump’s decision, but what he is TOLD to do by the corporate oligarchy.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In the meantime, I have hope in the numerous wildcat strikes and direct actions happening around the country that the corporate owned media of course is ignoring but is being reported by independent journalists and activists via the internet.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>These types of direct actions is what will be the catalyst for future change for the better. NOT electing Joe fuckin Biden and any Blue will Do corporate owned Democrat. Elections are a useful tool. One of many tools in our tool box. But they are only effective IF we have a direct action social-political movement behind it, propelling it, controlling it. That is an anti-corporate party of the people and not the corporate donor class.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This is how things have changed for the better in the past. Not by begging the ruling class, not by trying to appeal to their better judgement or the “ kindness “ of their sociopathic hearts, or by voting for one of the two pre-selected corporate controlled candidates. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Power concedes NOTHING without a demand and actions to back up and make the demand happen.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>David J.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Morton K. Brussel [mailto:<a href="mailto:mkb3@icloud.com" target="_blank">mkb3@icloud.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 07, 2020 4:25 PM<br><b>To:</b> David Johnson<br><b>Cc:</b> Morton K. Brussel; Karen Aram; Peace<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Peace] A useful set of opinions and suggestions</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Dave,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>So, you don’t fear or care if Trump gets another term? I do, despite not disagreeing with most of your arguments. Despite what you say, this election is important just so the present government leadership does not continue. I can’t imagine any worse outcomes then to again have Pompeo, Abrams, Pence, Vos, and the like again destroying lives here and abroad. Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, …, the “Justice” department and the Supreme Court. Saying we must organize for a better future is valid, but it does not seem feasible to me in the short term, in the next months or year, unless a popular reawakening and action dramatically changes. Do you think the Green Party is up to the challenge? Coronavirus could present an opportunity given how dreadful economic conditions are given all those now unemployed, —or perhaps the converse, totalitarianism may emerge?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>"Nothing will change for the better"? But it can well change for the worse. And by November. We are between a rock and a hard place. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On May 7, 2020, at 1:05 PM, David Johnson via Peace <<a href="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank">peace@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mort,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The President of the United States does NOTHING without the support of the majority of the U.S. corporate oligarchy.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>IF Fascism comes to the U.S., it will only happen if that is what a majority of the corporate ruling class wants, and that can happen under Biden just as easily as Trump.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The proof is in the pudding in regards to how ineffective this failed strategy of lesser evil voting has been for the last 30 years. More often than not, the lesser evil is the more EFFECTIVE evil. A Republican like Bob Dole and H.W. Bush during the 1990’s would never have been able to get all of the horrible laws passed that Bill Clinton did. Like NAFTA, the racist crime bill, the destruction of aid to families with dependent children, the telecommunications act, the destabilization and destruction of Yugoslavia, and last but not least, the repeal of the Glass Stiegel Act. I could provide an even longer list for Obama.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>NOTHING will change for the better in this country until we have a REAL opposition party which takes no corporate money and has a movement behind it.<span class=gmail-m-350897863948051594apple-converted-space> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The failure of Bernie Sanders ( who I supported ) is proof that the corporate oligarchy will NEVER allow change for the better to happen within the Democratic party. And in addition, the Democratic party is corrupting. Look at how fast AOC, Rashid Taibi, Ro Khana, and even TUlsi Gabbard and Ihlan Omar, and Bernie Sanders folded and went along with the corporate agenda with this recent SIX TRILLION DOLLAR corporate robbery. Not to mention Sanders refusing to call out and challenge the massive ELECTION FRAUD used against him on Super Tuesday and how fast he folded up his campaign and supported Biden. All have bent the knee to the corporate oligarchy through it’s surrogate the DNC.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We need a REAL opposition and a REAL resistance, NOT two corporate parties pretending to be enemies and then wondering why things continue to get worse ( a 40 year decline since 1980 ) and nothing changes for the better.<span class=gmail-m-350897863948051594apple-converted-space> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>And as Karen said, there is a storm of social unrest coming, and if people like us do not offer solutions ( as opposed to telling them to vote for more Democrats who are as mush the reason for the problems we have as the Republicans ) than the real Fascists will offer them a “ solution “.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>David J.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=gmail-m-350897863948051594apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Peace [<a href="mailto:peace-bounces@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>mailto:peace-bounces@lists.chambana.net</span></a>]<span class=gmail-m-350897863948051594apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=gmail-m-350897863948051594apple-converted-space> </span></b>Morton K. Brussel via Peace<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=gmail-m-350897863948051594apple-converted-space> </span>Thursday, May 07, 2020 11:38 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=gmail-m-350897863948051594apple-converted-space> </span>Karen Aram<br><b>Cc:</b><span class=gmail-m-350897863948051594apple-converted-space> </span>Morton K. Brussel; Peace<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=gmail-m-350897863948051594apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Peace] A useful set of opinions and suggestions</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>You will be interested in a debate/exchange/discussion between Paul Jay and ?? Prasad, who takes your position. This debate is also available on Jay’s new outlet. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The question not answered to my satisfaction is what to do about the coming election? Ignore it, and wait for better opportunities, or realize that another four years of Trump administration can be world shaking, one way or the other. Chomsky understands and worries about this; he is not alone. Prasad says “we" just have to work harder to assemble a truly militant and progressive mass who could swing things towards a more promising world for most of its population. Yet, he is not optimistic that it can be done!. So what to do<span class=gmail-m-350897863948051594apple-converted-space> </span><b><i>now</i></b>? As compromised and bad as Biden and the Dems in general are nationally, they are better than the Repubs on many crucial, if not all, issues. The environment, equity/justice?, education, universal health, climate change, …, some arguable. Better at holding back emerging facism. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>It’s a pretty dreadful situation we are all facing, agravated now with the pandemic and its foreboding consequences.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On May 7, 2020, at 9:14 AM, Karen Aram via Peace <<a href="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>peace@lists.chambana.net</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sorry, but I found the article very disappointing. Paul Jay is little different than Chomsky, with his support for Biden “as the lesser evil.” </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>They do a great job of defining the problem, but their recommended solutions support the very problem defined.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>This continuation of support for the Democrat Party, I’m referring to the federal government, not local which is a different topic all together, because the Republican Party is so awful, given they are basically one and the same, differing only in respect to strategy and tactics, keeps liberals in fantasy land, and on their asses arguing over which team is better as if a football game, and every four years voting, which is also a joke, given the corruption involved in our so called democracy. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The statement:<span class=gmail-m-350897863948051594apple-converted-space> </span><u>"<span style='color:#111111;background:white'>Before Covid-19, as the primaries were held, the economy appeared to be robust and enough people were doing well enough to avoid social unrest. Fear of Trump and a full court press against Sanders waged by the Democratic Party establishment and its media allies, made people reluctant to break from conventional politics. It swung the vote to Biden,</span><span style='color:#111111'>”</span></u></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#111111'>is the most accurate portrayal of US electoral politics. It is the goal of the DNC ruling elites to prevent social unrest, which could possibly result in system change. Make no mistake there will be social unrest, the disenfranchised will break out in anarchy, and violence resulting in chaos and destruction unless middle class liberals join up with those suffering inequality and whats to come, in changing our system of capitalism which is responsible for all. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#111111'>Yes, there needs to be a plan, organized with an agenda for what takes place after, as well as leadership. There are organizations offering such, and only if they join together in common cause utilizing civil resistance with protests, marches, strikes, sit downs, preventing business as usual, focusing not on one person in the WH, but Congress, Wall St., the banks, etc……….</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On May 6, 2020, at 18:31, Morton K. Brussel via Peace <<a href="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>peace@lists.chambana.net</span></a>> wrote:<br><br>By Paul Jay. <br><br><a href="https://theanalysis.news/commentary/covid-19-get-ready-for-the-coming-storm/" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>https://theanalysis.news/commentary/covid-19-get-ready-for-the-coming-storm/</span></a><br>_______________________________________________<br>Peace mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Peace@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>Peace@lists.chambana.net</span></a><br><a href="https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>_______________________________________________<br>Peace mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Peace@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>Peace@lists.chambana.net</span></a><br><a href="https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>_______________________________________________<br>Peace mailing list<br></span><a href="mailto:Peace@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:purple'>Peace@lists.chambana.net</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><br></span><a href="https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:purple'>https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'>_______________________________________________<br>Peace mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Peace@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank">Peace@lists.chambana.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace" target="_blank">https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>