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<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""> The sectarian, anarchist, neo liberals, Woke folks focus on single issues, and removal of Trump by ballot. If he’s re-elected then they will challenge, and we’ll have 4 more years of distractions, chaos, foreign interventions, with more people dying both here and abroad.<div class=""><br class=""><div class="">Cockburn is a journalist, elderly, not a revolutionary. Is he a socialist? Does he recognize the need to end our system of capitalist exploitation?</div><div class=""> <br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 2, 2020, at 10:47, David Green <<a href="mailto:davidgreen50@gmail.com" class="">davidgreen50@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">The anarchists are neoliberals. All of these actions are being played out on bourgeois terrrain. Street just can't accept that this "uprising" has nothing to do with the working class, with an egalitarian agenda. Instead of accepting that there's no revolutionary potential here--it has all been reactionary from the get-go--he goes off the deep end. This is where the editorship of CP by Frank & St. Clair has got us, very much in contradiction to Cockburn's more reliable non-sectarian political instincts. It's become an anarchist Woke + tired Boomer rag.<div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, 12:31 PM Karen Aram <<a href="mailto:karenaram@hotmail.com" class="">karenaram@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><div class="">David,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div>I’m sorry I totally disagree with your analysis. If you read the whole article which I assume you did, the lunacy is the American people thinking just casting a vote every four years and switching from one Party to the other is of value.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> Are the Dems., and Biden the remedy for what is taking place in the streets, and around the world, our continuing murder of Black people with impunity, US imperialism? Of course not and they aren’t even pretending, by appealing to the right.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I support mass movements to over turn our system of capitalism, as the only means of saving humanity, if we aren’t ready now, then when? After Biden is elected? Will liberals go to sleep as they did during the Obama administration, or will we be passive and allow another term for Trump? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My preference is non violent protest, strikes, sit downs etc., unfortunately what we’re going to get, in fact getting now, is armed militia’s supporting the police shooting protestors. Either from the continuing debacle taking place in the streets currently, the economic stress that is destroying so many and will only get worse with time, or global warming which will continue under either Party. One offering total denial which means do nothing, the other cosmetics. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I frankly don’t see it happening because we have no organized vanguard. Instead we have many focused on issues which only skim the surface, bringing no real change. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">To ignore what is happening, and what will only get worse is to be complicit. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have to ask, what is the point of understanding class issues, then doing nothing to eliminate the inequality?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 2, 2020, at 10:07, David Green <<a href="mailto:davidgreen50@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">davidgreen50@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Gosh, this a really absurd view. Street, like Counterpunch, has devolved into lunacy.</div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, 11:26 AM Karen Aram via Peace <<a href="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">peace@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Paul Street: "<span style="color:rgb(17,17,17);font-family:'Source Serif Pro',serif" class="">Get over it, comrades:</span><span style="color:rgb(17,17,17);font-family:'Source Serif Pro',serif" class=""> </span><span style="color:rgb(17,17,17);margin:0px;padding:0px;word-wrap:break-word;line-height:1.5em;font-family:SSit;max-width:560px" class="">this is fascism.</span><span style="color:rgb(17,17,17);font-family:'Source Serif Pro',serif" class=""> </span><span style="color:rgb(17,17,17);font-family:'Source Serif Pro',serif" class="">The notion of leaving the fascist Trump-Pence-Miller-Barr regime in power until January 20, 2021 (assuming it can or will be removed through “normal” constitutional means then) is insane. It’s long past time for a mass and sustained rebellion to collapse the regime as soon as humanly possible. How many COVID-19 deaths by next Inauguration Day, half a million? How many more victims of racist police state, vigilante, and militia violence in the next five months? How many more environmental regulations shredded? How many more calls for racist violence from the mouth and Twitter feed of the wannabe fascist dictator Trump?</span><font color="#111111" face="Source Serif Pro, serif" class="">”</font><div class=""><font color="#111111" face="Source Serif Pro, serif" class=""><br class=""></font><p style="margin:0px 3px 20px 10px;padding:0px;word-wrap:break-word;line-height:1.5em;font-family:'Source Serif Pro',serif;max-width:560px;color:rgb(17,17,17)" class="">"The sooner we act the better. By election day it may be too late. Trump has no intention of leaving and anyone who thinks the Secret Service and/or U.S. military command are going to oust him as he mounts a court challenge to an outcome that doesn’t go his way is engaged in wishful and magical thinking. A sustained mass outpouring may be required before the event to create the possibility for having a reasonably fair election insofar as such a thing is possible in the deeply distorted U.S. party and elections system.”</p><p style="margin:0px 3px 20px 10px;padding:0px;word-wrap:break-word;line-height:1.5em;font-family:'Source Serif Pro',serif;max-width:560px;color:rgb(17,17,17)" class="">“It’s time to get past all this “it can’t happen here” disbelief about what this fascist presidency and its allies within and outside government are ready, willing, and able to do."</p><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""><div class=""><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" 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