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It would be interesting to know what in fact the U.S. military is planning with respect to China. It is hard for me to believe that they want a war, for they are quite vunerable to China’s military prowess, which is leaping forward. Would Russia help China?
Could the u.S. military leaders think they can provoke something they can cntrol such as inhibiting China’s access to the Pacific sea lanes, on which it depends, for instance for oi and trad with the West. What would China do if such were attempted?
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<div class="">Then, there is the issue of Taipei. Here, the Chinese are on weaker ground, as Taipei becomes more aligned militarily with the U.S. Military action against Taipei seems unlikely (to me). </div>
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<div class="">The whole business is madness, and there is little in the cards that whomever wins our coming election will improve relations and back off its provocations: Can an empire draw down on its aspirations? <br class="">
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<div class="">On Oct 18, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Karen Aram <<a href="mailto:karenaram@hotmail.com" class="">karenaram@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="">In answer to your comments: I’ve read info. from liberal former State Dept., Officials, that there are those who question where we are headed in respect to China. Others are planning talks with Russia, to pull them further into the US orbit, this
was the US strategy in the late 70’s in respect to China, when Deng Xiou Ping visited DC, shortly thereafter invading Vietnam with US approval. </div>
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<div class="">It’s quite unlikely to succeed this time, given Russiagate, and the friendship based upon mutual need, between Russia and China since at least 2012. China has the money, Russia has the military and Putin/Lavrov are very smart guys, they know the
plan had been to takeover Russia first, then China. A reversal of that plan would be too obvious.</div>
<div class="">I don’t see Russia going along with it, unless regime change with a more Yeltsin like leader, comes into play. By “Yeltsin like” I mean, puppet of the USG.</div>
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<div class="">As to Europe, already our European allies are backing away from us given economics and trade with China, now taking precedence. </div>
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<div class="">The question is will China react militarily to US provocations? They are generally not open to confrontation, they don’t want war, they want to do business and make money, so they keep on building while we keep on destroying. However, the Chinese
know well their history of humiliation and will not allow it again. If the US interferes with the BRI as they no doubt are planning, if they force China, by blocking imports of oil or minerals necessary for production, to retaliate, which they could do by
controlling the shipping lanes in Asia, anything is possible. </div>
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<div class="">JMHO</div>
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<div class="">On Oct 18, 2020, at 12:02, Brussel, Morton K <<a href="mailto:brussel@illinois.edu" class="">brussel@illinois.edu</a>> wrote:</div>
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Quite a report, thoughtful, forceful and referenced. In its predictions, however, it strangely(?) omits any agency of Russia in the ultimate contest and conflict. Europe? The picture presented is dire, although not really possible to predict, neither near term
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<div class="">On Oct 18, 2020, at 9:17 AM, Karen Aram via Peace <<a href="mailto:peace@lists.chambana.net" class="">peace@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div dir="auto" style="font-family: inherit;" class="">Some of us have been predicting war with China for some time, at least since Obama's "Pivot to Asia," in 2012 by placing US battleships in the S. China Sea. The US has over 800 military bases outside of
the US with at least 400 surrounding and provoking China.</div>
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<div dir="auto" style="font-family: inherit;" class="">Alfred McCoy in his "Shadows of the American Century," quotes the Rand Corp. "as predicting war with China by 2030."</div>
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<div dir="auto" style="font-family: inherit;" class="">John Pilger produced a film related to the coming war with China.</div>
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<div dir="auto" style="font-family: inherit;" class="">Anyone reading Zbigniew Berezinski's "The Grand Chess Board," of 1997 saw the plan for US hegemony in Eurasia.
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<div dir="auto" style="font-family: inherit;" class="">Danny Haiphong of the "Black Agenda Report," has been writing and discussing US provocations of China.</div>
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<div dir="auto" style="font-family: inherit;" class="">Below is an article by another writer with the BlackAgenda Report, covering the topic of US war with China…..take heed this is what the USG under either Administration, DNC or GOP, is planning</div>
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<div dir="auto" style="font-family: inherit;" class=""><a href="https://blackagendareport.com/us-path-war-china-what-be-done?fbclid=IwAR1JkewU9CFHyIl33QuTaxIKREQ04WHequJj2BvcsU8HSHBhdAiHjhIOZNU" class="">https://blackagendareport.com/us-path-war-china-what-be-done?fbclid=IwAR1JkewU9CFHyIl33QuTaxIKREQ04WHequJj2BvcsU8HSHBhdAiHjhIOZNU</a></div>
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