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<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">As to a plan, this organization, please see the below, appears to be on the right page so far. Their focus isn’t just anti-war which is a lost cause these days, if one doesn't know the history they won’t understand or recognize the solution, this group has included the 2nd. worse disaster facing humanity, global warming. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I hope and recommend they continue to organize and add poverty at some point, which requires a class analysis, and includes the lack of healthcare, affordable housing, decent wages, jobs, etc. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As I said previously, our system and institutions are so broken and corrupt what we need is structural system change, that recognition will only come about when people are united rather than divided as they have been on the various issues.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="q9uorilb kvgmc6g5 rz4wbd8a n8ej3o3l qt6c0cv9 dwo3fsh8 i1ao9s8h rq0escxv k4urcfbm jb3vyjys l9j0dhe7 cxmmr5t8 rt8b4zig agehan2d oygrvhab sk4xxmp2 hcukyx3x g5ia77u1 a8nywdso"><div class="j83agx80 sj5x9vvc cbu4d94t cxgpxx05"><div class="mysgfdmx b5q2rw42 du4w35lb pfnyh3mw rq0escxv l9j0dhe7 jb3vyjys ll8tlv6m owycx6da lq239pai hv4rvrfc hddg9phg jifvfom9 j83agx80 btwxx1t3 dati1w0a"><div class="iuny7tx3 rj1gh0hx buofh1pr du4w35lb d2edcug0 hpfvmrgz rq0escxv p8fzw8mz l9j0dhe7 pcp91wgn ipjc6fyt g5gj957u cbu4d94t j83agx80 o8rfisnq"><div class="j83agx80 ew0dbk1b cbu4d94t irj2b8pg"><div class="knvmm38d qzhwtbm6"><span class="a3bd9o3v qv66sw1b mau55g9w aigsh9s9 iv3no6db fe6kdd0r c8b282yb hpfvmrgz nxhoafnm hzawbc8m jq4qci2q ht8s03o8 ik7dh3pa a8c37x1j d3f4x2em b1v8xokw keod5gw0 oi732d6d c1et5uql oo9gr5id d2edcug0" dir="auto">Event by <strong class=""><a class="esr5mh6w nhd2j8a9 kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 rz4wbd8a lrazzd5p qt6c0cv9 p7hjln8o r7d6kgcz rq0escxv f1sip0of e9989ue4 oygrvhab qu0x051f i1ao9s8h esuyzwwr gpro0wi8 a8nywdso lzcic4wl nc684nl6 jb3vyjys hcukyx3x oajrlxb2 oo9gr5id g5ia77u1" href="https://www.facebook.com/MilwaukeeVetsforPeace/" role="link" tabindex="0">Veterans for Peace Milwaukee Chapter 102</a></strong>, <strong class=""><a class="esr5mh6w nhd2j8a9 kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 rz4wbd8a lrazzd5p qt6c0cv9 p7hjln8o r7d6kgcz rq0escxv f1sip0of e9989ue4 oygrvhab qu0x051f i1ao9s8h esuyzwwr gpro0wi8 a8nywdso lzcic4wl nc684nl6 jb3vyjys hcukyx3x oajrlxb2 oo9gr5id g5ia77u1" href="https://www.facebook.com/veteransforpeace/" role="link" tabindex="0">Veterans For Peace</a></strong> and <strong class=""><a class="esr5mh6w nhd2j8a9 kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 rz4wbd8a lrazzd5p qt6c0cv9 p7hjln8o r7d6kgcz rq0escxv f1sip0of e9989ue4 oygrvhab qu0x051f i1ao9s8h esuyzwwr gpro0wi8 a8nywdso lzcic4wl nc684nl6 jb3vyjys hcukyx3x oajrlxb2 oo9gr5id g5ia77u1" href="https://www.facebook.com/peaceactionwi/" role="link" tabindex="0">Peace Action of Wisconsin</a></strong></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="q9uorilb kvgmc6g5 rz4wbd8a n8ej3o3l qt6c0cv9 dwo3fsh8 i1ao9s8h rq0escxv k4urcfbm jb3vyjys l9j0dhe7 cxmmr5t8 rt8b4zig agehan2d oygrvhab sk4xxmp2 hcukyx3x g5ia77u1 a8nywdso"><div class="j83agx80 sj5x9vvc cbu4d94t cxgpxx05"><div class="mysgfdmx b5q2rw42 du4w35lb pfnyh3mw rq0escxv l9j0dhe7 jb3vyjys ll8tlv6m owycx6da lq239pai hv4rvrfc hddg9phg jifvfom9 j83agx80 btwxx1t3 dati1w0a"><div class="iuny7tx3 p8fzw8mz du4w35lb pfnyh3mw d2edcug0 rq0escxv hpfvmrgz l9j0dhe7 pcp91wgn ipjc6fyt cbu4d94t j83agx80"><i data-visualcompletion="css-img" class="hu5pjgll cwsop09l" style="background-image: url(https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/rsrc.php/v3/yl/r/yAdz2-4Any3.png); 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background-size: auto; width: 20px; height: 20px; display: inline-block; background-position: 0px -377px; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat;"></i></div><div class="iuny7tx3 rj1gh0hx buofh1pr du4w35lb d2edcug0 hpfvmrgz rq0escxv p8fzw8mz l9j0dhe7 pcp91wgn ipjc6fyt g5gj957u cbu4d94t j83agx80 o8rfisnq"><div class="j83agx80 ew0dbk1b cbu4d94t irj2b8pg"><div class="knvmm38d qzhwtbm6"><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="dati1w0a hv4rvrfc"><div class="p75sslyk"><span class="a3bd9o3v qv66sw1b mau55g9w aigsh9s9 iv3no6db fe6kdd0r c8b282yb hpfvmrgz nxhoafnm jq4qci2q ht8s03o8 ik7dh3pa a8c37x1j d3f4x2em b1v8xokw keod5gw0 oi732d6d c1et5uql oo9gr5id d2edcug0" dir="auto"><div class="cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x c1et5uql kvgmc6g5">The Climate Crisis and Militarism: an Earth Day Presentation by Garett Reppenhagen, Executive Director of national Veterans for Peace</div><div class="cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x c1et5uql kvgmc6g5"><br class=""></div><div class="cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab o9v6fnle c1et5uql hcukyx3x">Veterans for Peace Climate Crisis and Militarism Project is part of the world-wide movement to end the climate crisis and promote climate, environmental, racial, and economic justice. US militarism, the single largest institutional source of greenhouse gasses on the planet, fuels the climate crisis. </div><div class="cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab o9v6fnle c1et5uql hcukyx3x"><br class=""></div><div class="cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab o9v6fnle c1et5uql hcukyx3x">The solution requires the US military to step back from its doctrine of Full Spectrum Dominance, including reducing the unsustainable annual military budget; closing military bases around the world; de-militarizing US foreign policy; and redirecting funds towards mitigating the climate crisis.</div><div class="cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab o9v6fnle c1et5uql hcukyx3x"><br class=""></div><div class="cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab o9v6fnle c1et5uql hcukyx3x">Garett Reppenhagen is the son of a Vietnam Veteran and grandson of two World War II Veterans. He served in the U.S. Army as a Cavalry/Scout Sniper in the 1st Infantry Division. Garett completed a deployment in Kosovo on a 9-month peace-keeping mission and a combat tour in Baquaba, Iraq. Garett gained an Honorable Discharge in May of 2005 and began working as a veterans advocate and a dedicated activist. He served as the Chairman of the Board of Iraq Veterans Against the War, worked in Washington, DC, as a lobbyist and as Vice President of Public Relations for the Nobel Prize winning Veterans For America, as a Program Director for Veterans Green Jobs and was the Rocky Mountain Director for Vet Voice Foundation. Garett lives in Maine where he serves as the Executive Director for Veterans For Peace <br class="">PEACE ACTION OF WI ZOOM ONE CLICK JOIN</div><div class="cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab o9v6fnle c1et5uql hcukyx3x">one click join <a class="esr5mh6w nhd2j8a9 kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 rz4wbd8a qt6c0cv9 p7hjln8o r7d6kgcz rq0escxv f1sip0of e9989ue4 oygrvhab qu0x051f i1ao9s8h esuyzwwr py34i1dx gpro0wi8 a8nywdso lzcic4wl nc684nl6 jb3vyjys hcukyx3x oajrlxb2 g5ia77u1" href="https://us02web.zoom.us/j/7165675210?pwd=WjJUcTE3c0gwd1NhQndab3dFQ3hRQT09&fbclid=IwAR3Fb19PhE0phc_ENTmj0R0DtjZ4WPXigFQvE4RLm0Yi1GR4zDirKqgglcw" rel="nofollow noopener" role="link" tabindex="0" target="_blank">https://us02web.zoom.us/j/7165675210...</a></div><div class="cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab o9v6fnle c1et5uql hcukyx3x">zoom id is 716 567 5210 password: 178153</div><div class="cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab o9v6fnle c1et5uql hcukyx3x">plain old phone: 1-312-626-6799 zoom id: 716 567 5210 password: 178153</div><div class="cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab o9v6fnle c1et5uql hcukyx3x">.<a class="esr5mh6w nhd2j8a9 kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 rz4wbd8a qt6c0cv9 p7hjln8o r7d6kgcz rq0escxv f1sip0of e9989ue4 oygrvhab qu0x051f i1ao9s8h esuyzwwr py34i1dx gpro0wi8 a8nywdso lzcic4wl nc684nl6 jb3vyjys hcukyx3x oajrlxb2 g5ia77u1" href="https://www.veteransforpeace.org/take-action/climatecrisis?fbclid=IwAR0iVRvSa1mxo-SQelUtN5eaTgsXMpSdSizjTWVv8xz6owpOsbrn1aKMbu8" rel="nofollow noopener" role="link" tabindex="0" target="_blank">https://www.veteransforpeace.org/take-action/climatecrisis</a></div><div class="cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab o9v6fnle c1et5uql hcukyx3x">Presented by Milwaukee Veterans for Peace & Peace Action WI <div class="esr5mh6w nhd2j8a9 kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 rz4wbd8a lrazzd5p qt6c0cv9 p7hjln8o r7d6kgcz rq0escxv f1sip0of e9989ue4 oygrvhab qu0x051f i1ao9s8h esuyzwwr gpro0wi8 a8nywdso lzcic4wl nc684nl6 jb3vyjys hcukyx3x oajrlxb2 oo9gr5id g5ia77u1" role="button" tabindex="0"><br class=""></div></div></span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 8, 2022, at 9:15 PM, karen aram <<a href="mailto:karenaram@hotmail.com" class="">karenaram@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Robert</span><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Why, are we disturbing you? <div class="">Do you own the Peace Discuss List? </div><div class="">Do you have a plan to do anything to prevent WW3? </div><div class="">Do you really think we are ignorant and don’t know what the USG is doing now that we need you to inform us? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you have a plan, please let us hear it? </div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 8, 2022, at 8:36 PM, Robert Naiman <<a href="mailto:naiman.uiuc@gmail.com" class="">naiman.uiuc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">I wasn't addressing you specifically. I'd like to know if there's a single person here who is jabbering about Russia-Ukraine who has a plan to do anything about it. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 7:51 PM karen aram <<a href="mailto:karenaram@hotmail.com" class="">karenaram@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word;">I’m sorry Robert, I wasn’t speaking to you, and deliberately deleted you from the conversation. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Please don’t address me again.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 8, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Robert Naiman <<a href="mailto:naiman.uiuc@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">naiman.uiuc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word;"><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote>Here's some data on the U.S. government. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1. This is roughly the same Congress that impeached Trump for <i class="">delaying</i> the shipment of Javelin missiles to Ukraine. Not stopping. <i class="">Delaying</i>. Under Congressional pressure, Trump sent the Javelins. This Congress impeached him anyway. That was before Russia invaded Ukraine, before the 24/7 U.S. media focus on Russian atrocities in Ukraine, before Ukraine surprised everyone by putting up a much stronger fight against Russia than expected, before Germany surprised everyone by responding much more aggressively than anyone expected, doing things they've refused to do for years. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">2. All the sanctions on Russia Biden is proposing are flying through Congress. The Senate vote to revoke Russia's most-favored-nation trade status was 100-0. Even Rand Paul voted for it. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">What's the plan to change U.S. policy on this, when the bipartisan support in Congress for what Biden is doing is wall-to-wall? When from the point of view of people with power in Washington, current U.S. policy is working for them beyond their wildest dreams? </div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word;"><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 6:01 PM karen aram via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank" class="">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word;"> Mark, out of the three is the best source for internal Russian obstacles/problems but does it matter? Understanding our government and it’s internal conditions and contradictions seem to me to be most important, as we should be considering how to change our behavior. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Sorry, about the Mark Sleboda link not working. Try this one: <a href="https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-trp-001&ei=UTF-8&hsimp=yhs-001&hspart=trp&p=the+grayzone+project+with+mark+sleboda&type=Y143_F163_201897_102620#id=2&vid=16c587674d7cf42400567ead360a7e19&action=click" target="_blank" class="">https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-trp-001&ei=UTF-8&hsimp=yhs-001&hspart=trp&p=the+grayzone+project+with+mark+sleboda&type=Y143_F163_201897_102620#id=2&vid=16c587674d7cf42400567ead360a7e19&action=click</a><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 8, 2022, at 3:56 PM, Morton K. Brussel <<a href="mailto:mkb0029@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">mkb0029@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word;"><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word;">A rather (over) sanguine view from Pepe Escobar. Whether Russia can overcome its internal obstacles/problems and fulfill the scenario described is debatable. Expertise of the internal conditions in Russia is needed!<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Mar Slebota’s piece was not available at the link given. Curious.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 8, 2022, at 11:23 AM, karen aram <<a href="mailto:karenaram@hotmail.com" target="_blank" class="">karenaram@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word;"><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><font color="#0433ff" class="">Scott Ridder</font></div><div class=""><span class="" style="color: rgb(71, 135, 255); text-decoration: underline;"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdM5Pkyl0_8__;!!DZ3fjg!v-X0NH-ci7-SPP-X04Sg5f_m3d9H0BFZwUIMJldYydZkYfjklCM44eZihsxjxqc-3g$" target="_blank" class="">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdM5Pkyl0_8</a></span></div><div class=""><span class="" style="color: rgb(71, 135, 255); text-decoration: underline;"><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span class="" style="color: rgb(71, 135, 255); text-decoration: underline;">Mark Sleboda</span></div><div class=""><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https*3A*2F*2Fthegrayzone.com*2F...*2F04*2Fwar-ukraine-unipolar-world*2F*3Ffbclid*3DIwAR081Tftf0-jNFkFvTDn7r_T-XbFOt5tnEDSpCtD-TOWTHAqDd1PaGpZGXU&h=AT3AEW__kRzPEsVGPwvWXlkz0tRJHghPI3VPGqhVecS2CnW1ROBzAdMI_vkaMcJ41dDBVXvZBvOzQPefLhrUdvcDgUu2jYjvsjENcyCYHVBX-DhuwsR188fy1F6Rl8r73esJs0E&__tn__=-UK-R&c*5B0*5D=AT1H40ifLxHQ8JyoABXzHaw7U10TKnTpmpDae_M_Yos7VGk1FrioKdQ4oGNqS45Q1IUUwu-aHFpFesVXi6F3hIlBChnehK9TJs8wuUH_ykrK3XOZUV0wt4ham9eNkbROGLK-jFqJQOLm4uiNJIVXBVhUF2Q__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!DZ3fjg!v-X0NH-ci7-SPP-X04Sg5f_m3d9H0BFZwUIMJldYydZkYfjklCM44eZihswIplyp4A$" target="_blank" class="">https://thegrayzone.com/.../04/war-ukraine-unipolar-world/</a></div><div class=""><span class="" style="color: rgb(71, 135, 255); text-decoration: underline;"><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span class="" style="color: rgb(71, 135, 255); text-decoration: underline;">and Pepe Escobar</span></div><div class=""><u class="" style="color: rgb(71, 135, 255);">offer similar assessments of what has taken place and what’s to come.</u></div><div class=""><font color="#4787ff" class=""><u class="">Pepe not a military analyst, as are Scott and Mark, is a geopolitical journalist and has been predicting for seven years now, what’s to come.</u></font></div><div class=""><font color="#4787ff" class=""><u class=""><br class=""></u></font></div><div class="">From Pepe:</div><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">UKRAINE AFTER THE WAR </div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Mariupol was battered by Ukraine’s right-wing Azov battalion well before Moscow launched its military ops. In Russian hands, this strategic steelworks port can transform into a hub of Eurasian connectivity.</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Mariupol, the strategic Sea of Azov port, remains in the eye of the storm in Ukraine.</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">The NATO narrative is that Azovstal – one of Europe’s biggest iron and steel works – was nearly destroyed by the Russian Army and its allied Donetsk forces who “lay siege” to Mariupol.</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">The true story is that the neo-Nazi Azov batallion took scores of Mariupol civilians as human shields since the start of the Russian military operation in Ukraine, and retreated to Azovstal as a last stand. After an ultimatum delivered last week, they are now being completely exterminated by the Russian and Donetsk forces and Chechen Spetsnaz.</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Azovstal, part of the Metinvest group controlled by Ukraine’s wealthiest oligarch, Rinat Akhmetov, is indeed one of the biggest metallurgic plants in Europe, self-described as a “high-performance integrated metallurgical enterprise that produces coke and sinter, steel as well as high-quality rolled products, bars and shapes.”</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Amidst a flurry of testimonials detailing the horrors inflicted by the Azov neo-Nazis on Mariupol’s civilian population, a way more auspicious, invisible story bodes well for the immediate future.</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Russia is the world’s fifth largest steel producer, apart from holding huge iron and coal deposits. Mariupol – a steel Mecca – used to source coal from Donbass, but under de facto neo-Nazi rule since the 2014 Maidan events, was turned into an importer. Iron, for instance, started to be supplied from Krivbas in Ukraine, over 200 kilometers away.</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">After Donetsk solidifies itself as an independent republic or, via referendum, chooses to become part of the Russian Federation, this situation is bound to change.</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Azovstal is invested in a broad product line of very useful stuff: structural steel, rail for railroads, hardened steel for chains, mining equipment, rolled steel used in factory apparatus, trucks and railroad cars. Parts of the factory complex are quite modern while some, decades old, are badly in need of upgrading, which Russian industry can certainly provide.</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Strategically, this is a huge complex, right at the Sea of Azov – which is now, for all practical purposes, incorporated into the Donetsk People’s Republic, and close to the Black Sea. That implies a short trip to the Eastern Mediterranean, including many potential customers in West Asia. And crossing Suez and reaching the Indian Ocean, customers all across South and Southeast Asia.</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">So the Donetsk People’s Republic, possibly part of the future Novorossiya, and even part of Russia, will be in control of a lot of steel-making capacity for southern Europe, West Asia and beyond.</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">One of the inevitable consequences is that it will be able to supply a real freight railroad construction boom in Russia, China and the Central Asian ‘stans.’ Railroad construction happens to be the privileged connectivity mode for Beijing’s ambitious Belt and Road Initiative (BRI). And, crucially, of the increasingly turbo-charged International North South Transportation Corridor (INSTC).</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">So, mid-term, Mariupol should expect to become one of the key hubs of a boom in north-south routes – INSTC across Russia and linking with the ‘stans’ – as well as major BRI upgrades east-west as well as sub-BRI corridors.</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Interlocked Eurasia</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">The INSTC’s main players are Russia, Iran and India – which are now, pos-NATO sanctions, in advanced interconnection mode, complete with devising mechanisms to bypass the US dollar in their trade. Azerbaijan is another important INSTC player, yet more volatile because it privileges Turkey’s connectivity designs in the Caucasus.</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">The INSTC network will be progressively interconnecting also with Pakistan – and that means the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), a key BRI hub, which is slowly but surely expanding to Afghanistan. Foreign Minister Wang Yi’s impromptu visit to Kabul late last week was to advance the incorporation of Afghanistan to the New Silk Roads.</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">All that is happening as Moscow – extremely close to New Delhi – is simultaneously expanding trade relations with Islamabad. All three, crucially, are Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) members.</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">So the grand North-South design spells out fluent connectivity from the Russian mainland to the Caucasus (Azerbaijan), to West Asia (Iran) all the way to South Asia (India and Pakistan). None of these key players have demonized or sanctioned Russia despite ongoing US pressures to do so.</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Strategically, that represents the Russian multipolar concept of Greater Eurasian Partnership in action in terms of trade and connectivity – in parallel and complimentary with BRI because India, eager to install a rupee-ruble mechanism to buy energy, in this case is an absolutely crucial Russia partner, matching China’s reported $400 billion strategic deal with Iran. In practice, the Greater Eurasia Partnership will facilitate smoother connectivity between Russia, Iran, Pakistan and India.</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">The NATO universe, meanwhile, is congenitally incapable of even recognizing the complexity of the alignment, not to mention analyze its implications. What we have is the interlocking of BRI, INTSC and the Greater Eurasia Partnership on the ground – all notions that are regarded as anathema in the Washington Beltway.</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">All that of course is being designed amidst a game-changing geoeconomic moment, as Russia, starting this Thursday, will only accept payment for its gas in rubles from “unfriendly” nations.</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Parallel to the Geater Eurasia Partnership, BRI, since it was launched in 2013, is also progressively weaving a complex, integrated Eurasian network of partnerships – financial/economic, connectivity, physical infrastructure building, economic/trade corridors. BRI’s role as a co-shaper of institutions of global governance, including normative foundations, has also been crucial, much to the despair of the NATO alliance.</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Time to de-westernize</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Yet only now the Global South, especially, will start to observe the full spectrum of the China-Russia play across the Eurasian sphere. Moscow and Beijing are deeply involved in a joint drive to de-westernize globalist governance, if not shatter it altogether.</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Russia from now on will be even more meticulous in its institution-building, coalescing the Eurasia Economic Union (EAEU), the SCO and the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) – a Eurasian military alliance of select post-Soviet states – in a geopolitical context of irreversible institutional and normative divide between Russia and the West.</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">At the same time, the Greater Eurasia Partnership will be solidifying Russia as the ultimate Eurasian bridge, creating a common space across Eurasia which could even ignore vassalized Europe.</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Meanwhile in real life, BRI, as much as the INSTC, will be increasingly plugged into the Black Sea (hello, Mariupol). And BRI itself may be even prone to re-evaluation in its emphasis of linking western China to western Europe’s shrinking industrial base.</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">There will be no point in privileging the northern BRI corridors – China-Mongolia-Russia via the Trans-Siberian, and the Eurasian land bridge via Kazakhstan – when you have Europe descending into medieval dementia.</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">BRI’s renewed focus will be on gaining access to irreplaceable commodities – and that means Russia – as well as securing essential supplies for Chinese production. Commodity-rich nations such as Kazakhstan, and many players in Africa, shall become the top future markets for China.</div></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">In a pre-Covid loop across Central Asia, one constantly heard that China builds plants and high-speed railways while Europe at best writes white papers. It can always get worse. The EU as occupied American territory is now descending, fast, from center of global power to the status of inconsequential peripheral player, a mere struggling market in the far periphery” of China’s “community of shared destiny.”</div></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 6:54 AM karen aram via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank" class="">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word;">To be clear in my statement below, I’m not suggesting we do nothing, I’m suggesting just focusing on anti-war is a lost cause. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It’s time we recognize the many issues in relation to imperialism, poverty, racism etc., require structural system change. We can’t rely upon our elected officials to represent us. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The end of the petrodollar is here, the violence and chaos that we saw in Portland, O. will be seen across the nation when people take to the streets because they are starving. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 7, 2022, at 6:12 PM, karen aram <<a href="mailto:karenaram@hotmail.com" target="_blank" class="">karenaram@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word;">Mort<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">An excellent article, one with which I couldn’t agree more. Only one statement is questionable, </div><div class=""><u class=""><br class=""></u></div><div class=""><u class="">"the politicians in the US are very, very concerned about what we may think – our words do have an effect, albeit limited one. That is the reason the US has no draft.” </u></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I don’t believe our politicians are concerned about what we may think, that was the case in the sixties and seventies, but no longer. The invasion of Iraq, went ahead in spite of over 100,000 people in the streets protesting at the time. We’ve had how many wars and interventions since? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’ve come to the conclusion that unless a Republican is in the WH, we won’t see a viable anti-war movement in the US. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Sorry, I know I’m not offering hope, but maybe I’m wrong. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">On Apr 7, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Morton K. Brussel <<a href="mailto:mkb0029@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">mkb0029@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""><div class=""><div class="">This article gives one some hope. Meanwhile, so-called anti-war groups including CodePink, DemocracyNow(?)(disgusting treatment), fail to see the forest through the trees (or don’t want to). .<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class=""><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://original.antiwar.com/john-v-walsh/2022/04/06/an-antidote-to-the-split-in-the-us-peace-movement-anti-interventionism/__;!!DZ3fjg!v-X0NH-ci7-SPP-X04Sg5f_m3d9H0BFZwUIMJldYydZkYfjklCM44eZihsyzht5WQw$" target="_blank" class="">https://original.antiwar.com/john-v-walsh/2022/04/06/an-antidote-to-the-split-in-the-us-peace-movement-anti-interventionism/</a><br class=""><br class="">Most of the commentary for Walsh’s piece is also useful (on<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://antiwar.com/__;!!DZ3fjg!v-X0NH-ci7-SPP-X04Sg5f_m3d9H0BFZwUIMJldYydZkYfjklCM44eZihsyTzo0wMg$" target="_blank" class="">Antiwar.com</a>.)<br class=""><br class="">—mkb</div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">Peace-discuss mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank" class="">Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a><br class=""><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss__;!!DZ3fjg!v-X0NH-ci7-SPP-X04Sg5f_m3d9H0BFZwUIMJldYydZkYfjklCM44eZihsx4w_BV7w$" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss</a><br class=""></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">Peace-discuss mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank" class="">Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss</a></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></div></body></html>