<div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>"<i><b>More and more</b></i>, we're told outright war isn't just necessary and right, but the thing that will solve America's existential problems"</div><div><br></div>"<i><b>More and more</b></i>"?! How could it be any more than it was already? <div><br></div><div>This is why LBJ had the right idea with the "War on Poverty." If we have to have a war on something, let's have a war on something bad that it's obvious you can't do anything about with guns. Let's have a "war on poverty," let's have a "war on climate change," let's have a "war on racism." Let's have a war on something bad, which it's obvious that you can't do anything about by dropping a bomb on someone. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 3:09 PM C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <<a href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br><div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif">Matt Taibbi <<a href="mailto:taibbi@substack.com" target="_blank">taibbi@substack.com</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif"><b>Give War A Chance</b><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif">April 12, 2022 at 11:44:45 AM CDT<br></span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="mailto:cgestabrook@gmail.com" target="_blank">cgestabrook@gmail.com</a><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif">Matt Taibbi <<a href="mailto:reply+uvpt4&692a&&bfd03b118b3c94cc59ae165b6c355087227e3dc833736808e88259dadf558800@mg1.substack.com" target="_blank">reply+uvpt4&692a&&bfd03b118b3c94cc59ae165b6c355087227e3dc833736808e88259dadf558800@mg1.substack.com</a>><br></span></div><br><div><img src="https://mailgun.substack.com/api/v1/email/open?token=eyJtIjoiPDIwMjIwNDEyMTY0NDQ1LjIuNzNiYzRhZWFlZTMyNDQ5Ni5jcDA0ODg0MkBtZzIuc3Vic3RhY2suY29tPiIsInUiOjI5MTY4MiwiciI6ImNnZXN0YWJyb29rQGdtYWlsLmNvbSIsImQiOiJtZzIuc3Vic3RhY2suY29tIiwicCI6NTE4NjgyNjQsInQiOiJuZXdzbGV0dGVyIiwiYSI6Im9ubHlfcGFpZCIsInMiOjEwNDIsImMiOiJwb3N0IiwiZiI6dHJ1ZSwiaWF0IjoxNjQ5NzgxOTY2LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItMCIsInN1YiI6ImVvIn0.yzAfxV7XBRhPZ6-_I_RM_YE3tjgcN8kfMN3nGfCSCzw" alt="" width="1" height="1" border="0" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; height: 1px; width: 1px; border-width: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><table role="presentation" width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="font-family:Helvetica;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><tbody><tr><td></td><td width="550"></td><td></td></tr><tr><td></td><td align="left" width="550"><div style="font-size:16px;line-height:26px;margin:0px auto;max-width:550px;width:550px"><table role="presentation" width="auto" style="border-spacing:0px;padding:16px 0px"><tbody><tr><td align="center" style="padding:0px;text-align:center"><a href="https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJxVkduSojAQhp9G7qRIiAEucrE16g6uolvFjnpF5dBihkNYCOMyTz9xuNqqHKrTf7qT_5PcQmn6iXVmsN5zKezUAWvhMdRgLfTeOEBfaMVwgmiMPcWIQvEq9vRQ3HqAhuua2X4ErxtFrSW32rRPPQoI9u4sQhHcOBWUSLmSSiIaSnEDiBIauwSfm_JRaWglMNPWU9Fxrbya3a3thkX4Y4G3bliuhdD-MIrBcln50jTutHOz1B-wfPB-yZfyzl2VRbi1poJ2Ea5h2iGJ36YLrqv03UzHfIOP63RIm_quXlJ6yK_BMZfkkFc40w_NL9mn02n5-qb3-eaRrVO9f9l9qnOqj3r3EGEW7C-7-nrOAn5OxrQNfP3XYH61_24iPkj0-xePrj-bbUI-zqdxoKd92fxRxSmqo3zjaYYDjAOCMKKEkJWP_SgUknDgACEmJKG-7AISxwQvSNCU-L8fez2TJbhQ9MZUTlA-_f_OOPsLtzdjq-1UQMtFDWomY2e836yKElroHXZVcMvcI5IoRgmlSRjPKBy6FYodako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in”) to Fox (which had on Sean Penn, of all people, to<span> </span><a href="https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkEGOhCAQRU_TLI1ggbJgMZu5himg2iajSBDT8fZTdicE-KGK-v8FbLTs9XJlP5q4t7ldhVym97FSa1TFeVCdU3TKSjMpER1EOelJpGN-VqIN0-paPUmU068pYEt7vutlD0q8nJSD7Z8BwGhFIYYAIWoclQwavabhOxTPmCgHcnter7lgimJ1r9bK8Rh-HuqXV3un208X9o0V5gsLVtxKWlkeDdt58EVqKcfRKqmMNWCsluzUqV6pHqSSBgB0p7px8AGQkGhQANZ0ofQwTaAe0G-L6o7T85fh754mqgsLsfR13_-4YLkzf1448szndubUrpky-pXil0b7Iv3wmRfKVBl1nLE5NmHHSVpj7DB94zMuNsp4DQgeHXfuyq5h8j79A-psiq4" rel="" style="color:rgb(26,26,26);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">say to Sean Hannity</a>, “Countries that have nuclear weapons can remain intimidated to use them, and we’re seeing that now with our own country”). This is fast becoming a bipartisan consensus. Check out Republican Adam Kinzinger’s recent comment:</p><div style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);border:1px solid rgb(225,232,237);border-top-left-radius:5px;border-top-right-radius:5px;border-bottom-right-radius:5px;border-bottom-left-radius:5px;direction:ltr;display:block;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-family:Helvetica,Roboto,"Segoe UI",Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:16px;line-height:26px;margin:1em auto;max-width:520px;padding:20px 20px 11.6px"><a href="https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkEGOwyAMRU9TlhEQILBg0c1s5hCIgJuiJhCBoypz-iGthIAvbL7_Cx5hKfW0e2lIrs3huYPN8G4rIEIlR4PqUrTcMKU5iVZEpqUmqblHBdh8Wi3WA8h-zGsKHlPJVz2jgpOn9TAFGUOUko6gJgogTYigZqMnL-Xja-qPmCAHsCWvp9t9imS1T8S93cb7jf_0he90zTOEsnV1j377Tfkv5QVq1w09Hq1fmGSjVlIwaYzgykx0JMlyyjkVjDMlhJADH6ZxDsKDBxi5EEYNYadCa8Fvgm4LH9ox9y_D67Ij1YYFupxrKa9esFyhPy89s-vnduSEp4Ps5xXiFwd-mX4AuQUy1M46Oo-2D2EmzYxSZtTf_J2XZLrzVYJ061h6V7bo0zynf7cmiyQ" rel="" style="display:block;text-decoration:none;white-space:pre-wrap" target="_blank"><div style="display:block;font-size:16px;line-height:1.2;margin-bottom:14px;text-decoration:none"><img src="https://cdn.substack.com/image/twitter_name/w_36/AdamKinzinger.jpg" alt="Twitter avatar for @AdamKinzinger" style="border-top-left-radius: 50%; border-top-right-radius: 50%; border-bottom-right-radius: 50%; border-bottom-left-radius: 50%; display: block; float: left; height: 36px; margin: 0px 8px 0px 0px; max-width: 100%; vertical-align: middle; width: 36px; border: none;"><span style="color:rgb(28,32,34);display:block;font-weight:700">Adam Kinzinger </span><span style="color:rgb(105,120,130);display:block;font-size:14px">@AdamKinzinger</span></div>If we let nukes prevent us from action then expect literally every country to try to get nukes in next few years</a><a href="https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkEGOwyAMRU9TlhEQILBg0c1s5hCIgJuiJhCBoypz-iGthIAvbL7_Cx5hKfW0e2lIrs3huYPN8G4rIEIlR4PqUrTcMKU5iVZEpqUmqblHBdh8Wi3WA8h-zGsKHlPJVz2jgpOn9TAFGUOUko6gJgogTYigZqMnL-Xja-qPmCAHsCWvp9t9imS1T8S93cb7jf_0he90zTOEsnV1j377Tfkv5QVq1w09Hq1fmGSjVlIwaYzgykx0JMlyyjkVjDMlhJADH6ZxDsKDBxi5EEYNYadCa8Fvgm4LH9ox9y_D67Ij1YYFupxrKa9esFyhPy89s-vnduSEp4Ps5xXiFwd-mX4AuQUy1M46Oo-2D2EmzYxSZtTf_J2XZLrzVYJ061h6V7bo0zynf7cmiyQ" rel="" style="display:block;text-decoration:none;white-space:pre-wrap" target="_blank"><div style="color:rgb(105,120,130);display:block;font-size:14px;line-height:26px;margin-top:10px;text-decoration:none"><p style="border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(225,232,237);color:rgb(105,120,130);display:block;font-size:14px;line-height:1.4;margin:0px 0px 10px;padding-bottom:10px">April 12th 2022</p><span style="display:inline-block;margin-right:8px"><span style="color:rgb(28,32,34);font-weight:bold">387</span> Retweets</span><span style="display:inline-block;margin-right:8px"><span style="color:rgb(28,32,34);font-weight:bold">3,180</span> Likes</span></div></a></div><p style="color:rgb(26,26,26);font-size:16px;line-height:26px;margin:0px 0px 1em">Most of us look back at 9/11 and wish we’d tried to narrow the scope of the problem, not expand it in grandiose ways and make it the central fact of the lives of every person on the planet. We were told right away that 9/11 meant so much more than a policing problem, that instead of a few nut-jobs slipping through the net, bin Laden’s Twin Tower attacks heralded an inevitable, and desirable, Final Battle between new and old worlds. We’re going through something similar now. The pundit excitement over the final clash between “Democracy and Autocracy” perhaps being at hand reminds me exactly of the open praying for signs of the Apocalypse I once heard<span> </span><a href="https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkE1rwzAMhn9NfWuwFSd1Dj4MxnYdY4fdgmyrmVliB0ehZL9-bgtCQh8venk8Mk25HHbNG4t7GvlYySa6bTMxUxH7RmWMwcKgegMiWB2U6YyI23gtRAvG2XLZSay7m6NHjjnd75XUIH6sUkGbQTmJXrZOXYxrpWl7BFABQuieT3EPkZInm9N8jCvGIGb7w7xup_blBG81brdbgwv-5dT4vNTBeyHk8ysVTBMtlPj8RaXE6xHTdP7Ic-Tot_MnzXGqlqogrDXJ1nQdyB6-RbQgAaRWoHqtdddAc2md10hI1ILWQ9_4VWpjNJy0XCZott1tjP73bkEU6yeqrSs5_9aD6c7isakoxlqXPUU-RkroZgpPSvxE_eA2TpSqfaYwIttqYrgYNfT90JonloqxU6Zi77Wor0OuqmQZo3PxH3VqlAs" rel="" style="color:rgb(26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