[rfu-automation] Re: [UCIMC-Finance] update: CSI Sweat Equity
Michelle Shumate
shumate at uiuc.edu
Tue Apr 1 10:07:42 CDT 2008
Hi All,
According to the finance meeting minutes on 4-10-07 we distributed 25% to
the working group and 75% to the IMC. If anyone has record of another
agreement, please send the date of those minutes for others to review.
Michelle
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Mike Lehman <rebelmike at earthlink.net> wrote:
> While I understand the need to devote a portion of the funds generated
> by Community Shares to the Bike Project, I don't recall that the
> distribution is limited exclusively to the BP beyond what goes into the
> IMC general funds by the fact that Anna is working to help generate
> funds for the Bike Project. If we take that approach, then no working
> group other than the one associated with the CS liaison has an incentive
> to aid in generating CS income.
>
> My recall in previous discussions is that any working group -- noting
> here that the BP is actually a fiscally sponsored project and not a
> working group -- making a contribution to generating CS points, and
> thus income, should have some claim on the distribution of funds. I'd
> agree that the majority of the funding generated should go to IMC
> general funds, given the great need there. But I don't think this
> precludes the distribution of CS income in a way that gives incentives
> to as many as possible within the IMC.
>
> A good example of this is the Share a Meal. I don't recall exactly who
> participated this year in this CS event, but I don't think it was
> exclusively those associated with the BP. I know that last year I did
> and that some from RFU did agree to volunteer to help. Again, I
> understand the frustrations in getting CS content added to the RFU
> automation, but some content was actually added previously -- and there
> was actually a way figured out to accurately measure it -- but there was
> no regular followup from those who were doing CS liaison at the time to
> determine if there was a problem doing that or not.
>
> In a volunteer organization, we need to ensure that as many of those
> involved as possible have incentive to aid in generating income,
> whatever its source. That's been the problem all along. Drawing the
> boundaries narrowly on CS income is liable to generate less, rather than
> more. I don't know what exactly the answer is in this case, but I think
> we need to think more broadly beyond the confines of this sort of box if
> we want to take advantage of all the potential income CS can generate.
> Mike Lehman
>
> Danielle Chynoweth wrote:
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > Understood. I share the info in the hopes that we can have
> > resolution, not a mere complaint. I know we are all volunteers and
> > therefore there really isn't room for complaint here.
> >
> > Anna, sounds like we can count on about 100 plays per week starting now.
> >
> > As for funds, our current structure is that the Community Shares
> > liaison, who does the work of attending meetings, tracking points,
> > coordinating volunteers, etc, gets to select a portion of funds to go
> > to the group of their choice. In this case Anna chose the Bike Coop,
> > of which she is a part. We advertised this position to all working
> > groups and Anna was the only one who volunteered to do it. In the
> > future, if an WRFU member wants to take this on, they can earmark
> > funds for WRFU.
> >
> > Also on the topic of funds, I think it is really important for you
> > Andrew, or someone intimately involved with the station, to be part of
> > the IMC finance group, even if you don't attend every meeting. The
> > finances of the IMC are very tight right now (many factors that we
> > can explain), and a coordinated effort by all groups to assist in the
> > process of keeping us afloat (including Community Shares money) will
> > be necessary for our collective survival. This person can then report
> > on overall IMC finances to WRFU so that the group sees itself in the
> > context of the larger whole, something we have struggled with to date.
> >
> > take care,
> >
> > - Danielle
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Andrew Ó Baoill <andrew at funferal.org
> > <mailto:andrew at funferal.org>> wrote:
> >
> > As you'll appreciate, this happens when there's so much turnover in
> > volunteers responsible for different items - various tasks-in-hand
> > fall between stools, or don't get handed over properly. However,
> it's
> > something we're working on.
> >
> > We're in the process of re-invigorating our automation group, which
> > takes care of PSAs among other issues. I don't think we'd be happy
> > with PSAs automatically entering the system through an email address
> > - the potential for serious regulatory problems is too large - but
> we
> > are trying to simplify the system.
> >
> > I wasn't aware Josh was on IMC staff - there might be some areas
> > where he could be very helpful to WRFU. What sort of areas is he
> > competent in, and what's the process for adding a task to his
> > workload?
> >
> > Regarding tracking usage - this isn't possible to do accurately.
> What
> > I'm going to do is add the PSA to our automation, on a reasonably
> > heavy rotation. The automation runs continually, even when live
> > programs (rather than automation) is going out on air. Therefore,
> the
> > automation system can't provide an accurate count of how many plays
> > reach our listeners. However, we currently have 53 hours where we
> > don't have scheduled live programming, and a further 36 where we
> > feature webfeeds and multi-lingual morningtime news podcasts. Thus,
> > we could reasonably guarantee around 90 plays (at one per hour) each
> > week, as well as plays when people fail to show for their shows.
> That
> > would change as scheduled shows change, but is a good guide. My
> > estimate would probably be closer to 100/week. [That depends on
> > fitting the PSA after the legal ID or during other scheduled breaks
> > in webfeed content.]
> >
> > Finally, you mentioned the fact that the on-air mentions translate
> to
> > points, and ultimately cash, for the IMC. Might it be possible for
> > some of this revenue to be earmarked for/assigned to WRFU?
> Obviously,
> > we're happy to help the broader project, but as a group operating on
> > a very tight budget, and in the midst of a significant (relative to
> > budget) fund-drive, any revenue we can generate is significant. The
> > community shares model is somewhat complex, but I think it should be
> > possible to generate a formula to split the added revenue generated
> > by WRFU participation between WRFU and the IMC general fund. (What
> > the split should be, of course, would be a matter for discussion and
> > negotiation.)
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > On 31 Márta 2008, at 10:18, Danielle Chynoweth wrote:
> > > Thank you for attending to this.
> > >
> > > For reasons I don't understand, it has taken over a year of
> > > correspondence to get a Community Shares PSA on WRFU. This
> should
> > > give us pause about our process.
> > >
> > > I would like us to regularly drop PSAs into the system for all
> > > kinds of events - is there any easy way to do this? I have
> emailed
> > > several RFUers about PSA process with no response.
> > >
> > > If not, shouldn't there be? We have a paid programmer - Josh King
> > > - on staff. What would be best is if sending a PSA to an e-mail
> > > address automatically puts it in the system.
> > >
> > > Attached is the CS PSA - it needs to run often - and we need to
> > > track approximately how often it runs per day. We get points for
> > > each run and each point means money. The other PSA was for a past
> > > event.
> > >
> > > - Danielle
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Andrew Ó Baoill
> > > <andrew at funferal.org <mailto:andrew at funferal.org>> wrote:
> > > I haven't seen the PSAs and don't think they're in the system at
> the
> > > moment. If you resend I'll make sure they get processed.
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > > On 31 Márta 2008, at 00:56, Danielle Chynoweth wrote:
> > > > Gary and Andrew,
> > > >
> > > > Did the Share a meal and Community Shares PSAs we mdae and sent
> > > > make it into automation. This is worth hundreds of dollars per
> > > > year for the IMC and can not delay. Please let us know.
> > > >
> > > > Danielle
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 11:18 PM, Anna Hochhalter
> > > > <hochhaltera at gmail.com <mailto:hochhaltera at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > > Hello Finance group!
> > > >
> > > > I am sorry I have been so absent from the thurs. meetings. sigh.
> > > > Here's a Community Shares Update:
> > > >
> > > > The Share a Meal event on March 11th was VERY successful!
> > Thank you
> > > > to Jacob Barton, Michael Pennington, Esther Pratt, andSuzanne
> > Linder
> > > > for being able to help staff the meals at Cafe Luna during
> > lunch and
> > > > dinner. Also, thanks to Davita Bernard and Maria Silva for
> > > trying to
> > > > help, but found logistical problems prevent them. Cafe Luna was
> > > > delighted to participate. We will earn 30 points for our work
> on
> > > this
> > > > event.
> > > >
> > > > CS had a couple questions regarding the 2007 IMC points, and
> these
> > > > have all been resolved. For 2007, the IMC will receive 67
> points
> > > and
> > > > 2 shares. That's 2 times as many sweat equity shares from last
> > > year.
> > > > :) I am attaching the final report forms which show the 1st
> > and 2nd
> > > > quarter on one sheet and the 3rd and 4th on the other. These
> have
> > > been
> > > > documented by Community Shares.
> > > >
> > > > regarding the Website and radio announcements, the link to CS is
> > > > posted-- hoooray! This brings in 1 point per quarter, the
> > longer it
> > > > can stay posted, the better. I'm following up on the radio PSA.
> > > Has
> > > > anyone heard one? Regardless, our work with the Share a Meal
> event
> > > > this quarter brought in many points. If we can get the PSA on
> the
> > > > rotation cycle next quarter (or event this year), we'll bring in
> > > many
> > > > points. It's ok w/o it, for now.
> > > >
> > > > Here is a report for IMC points from Jan-Mar 08. If you see
> > > anything
> > > > that should be changed, please let me know.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you!!
> > > > Anna
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > > From: Anna Hochhalter <hochhaltera at gmail.com
> > <mailto:hochhaltera at gmail.com>>
> > > > Date: Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 3:34 PM
> > > > Subject: one more thing: CSI Sweat Equity
> > > > To: Mike Doyle <mdoyle at cs-il.org <mailto:mdoyle at cs-il.org>>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Mike,
> > > >
> > > > Also, we received a letter stating that the IMC received 0
> > > points for
> > > > 2007. I hope this was because there were pending points and
> > > > questions
> > > > regarding our report. Based on the revised reports, we should
> > > have a
> > > > total of 58 points for the whole year.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again!
> > > >
> > > > Anna Hochhalter
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > > From: Anna Hochhalter <hochhaltera at gmail.com
> > <mailto:hochhaltera at gmail.com>>
> > > > Date: Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 3:18 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: CSI Sweat Equity
> > > > To: Mike Doyle <mdoyle at cs-il.org <mailto:mdoyle at cs-il.org>>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Mike,
> > > >
> > > > We're on the same page. I remembered March 31st as being the
> > > > deadline. This was in my schedule to take care of today.
> THank
> > > you
> > > > for the reminder.
> > > >
> > > > Here are 2 revised spreadsheets for all four quarters from
> > 2007 for
> > > > the UC-IMC. I followed up with the following questions:
> > > > 1- did the IMC sponsor or renew/recruit a restaurant for SAM?
> > > > 2- Did the Public I feature articles about CS or just logos?
> > > >
> > > > I made changes to the spreadsheet based on what I discovered.
> > > > Info is below:
> > > > 1- The IMC worked with CUTU and PACE to sponsor Milo's. Esther
> > > Pratt
> > > > has informed me that the IMC, CUTU, and PACE all received 10
> > points
> > > > for their combined work sponsoring Milo's. Her description of
> > > the IMC
> > > > involvement is below.
> > > >
> > > > 2- The Public I monthly newspaper shows the CS logo on every
> > > > newspaper. I gave us 3 points for each quarter for the 1st
> > and 2nd
> > > > quarters, and 2 points per quarter (because a couple months
> were
> > > > combined). I have copies of the newspaper here, if you need
> > to see
> > > > them.
> > > >
> > > > So that I can be more on top of this in the future, where could
> I
> > > > find
> > > > a list of the due dates for the quarterly reports? Is the Jan-
> > > March
> > > > report due by April 1st too? If so, I'll work on getting that
> > > > together.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you again for being patient. Feel free to contact me if
> > > there
> > > > are other questions.
> > > >
> > > > Anna Hochhalter
> > > > 217-531-8219
> > > >
> > > > From Esther Pratt:
> > > > Last year I recruited Milo's. I think IMC delivered materials
> to
> > > > them
> > > > (table top signs and posters) although Paula from PACE might
> have
> > > > done
> > > > that. Last year, IMC contacted Milo's right before the event
> to
> > > see
> > > > if they had any questions and to let them know we'd be sending
> > > > "hosts"
> > > > to work the door. Then that got a bit confusion because of
> > use of
> > > > the
> > > > word "host." The manager at Milo's told Wendy that Milo's
> > has its
> > > > own hosts so Wendy thought we weren't supposed to staff it.
> > One we
> > > > got that clarified, Mike Lehman and someone else (I forget who
> it
> > > > was)
> > > > from IMC worked the door in 2 consecutive 2 hour shifts along
> > > with me
> > > > from Tenant Union for the 5 - 7 shift and Paula Vanier from
> PACE
> > > for
> > > > the 7-9 shift. I picked up the materials to deliver to
> > Milo's and
> > > > then Paula from PACE took them home. UCIMC, CUTU and PACE each
> > > > got 10
> > > > points for our collective effort.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Mike Doyle <mdoyle at cs-il.org
> > <mailto:mdoyle at cs-il.org>>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Anna,
> > > > >
> > > > > Just a quick reminder - we need to update your sweat equity
> > > > points before
> > > > > April 1. Although I forgot some of the specifics we
> discussed,
> > > > If you would
> > > > > like to go over again, let me know I would be glad to talk.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Share A Meal - Tuesday, March 11th
> > > > > For more information and a list of participating restaurants
> > > > > www.share-a-meal.org <http://www.share-a-meal.org>
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Doyle
> > > > > Executive Director
> > > > > Community Shares of Illinois
> > > > > www.CommunitySharesIllinois.org
> > <http://www.CommunitySharesIllinois.org>
> > > > > 44 East Main, Suite 208
> > > > > Champaign, IL 61820
> > > > > Phone (217) 352-6533
> > > > > FAX (217) 352-9745
> > > >
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> > >
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> >
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________________________________
Michelle Shumate
Assistant Professor
Department of Speech Communication
University of Illinois
244 Lincoln Hall
702 S. Wright Street
Urbana, IL 61801 USA
shumate at uiuc.edu
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