[rfu-automation] Fwd: song with profanity

Tue Jan 27 13:46:26 CST 2009

Raymond, I certainly was not arguing against pulling the song!

I just want people to realize we can't make these judgments solely on a list
of words, because that's not how the FCC does it:

"The FCC has never maintained a specific list of words prohibited from the
airways during this time period, but it has maintained general guidelines
regarding obscenities."
http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/2001/fcc01090.html
cited in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_dirty_words

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Noel L. Vivar <nlvivar at gmail.com> wrote:

> I would say that "a**" as in "arse" or "rear-end" would not be ok.
>
> "Ass" as in "donkey" would be ok.
>
> I a**ume that the song is not about the latter. The song should be
> pulled, and whomever is responsible for placing the song in the
> playlist (if traceable) should get a gentle reminder about what we're
> looking for in songs and due diligence.
>
> -Noel
>
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Raymond Morales <morales4 at illinois.edu>
> wrote:
> > I do not agree with this interpretation.
> >
> > The general gold standard is the following words:
> > f**k
> > Sh**
> > b**ch
> > c**t
> >
> > I believe that d**n and a$$ is also not acceptable, but I am not 100%
> sure. I am not saying that this is 100% codified, however, it has proven to
> be the accepted rule of thumb. Saying it live by accident and unintentially
> under non-obscene contexts is acceptable, but I am not of the opinion that
> music contain these words should be on automation. Obviously one can be
> obscene without using any of these words, but, as far as being profane, I
> would be of the opinion that these words would get us into trouble with the
> FCC. I would rather air on the side of caution on this particular matter.
> >
> > -Ray
> > ---- Original message ----
> >>Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:25:05 -0600
> >>From: Joe Futrelle <futrelle at shout.net>
> >>Subject: Re: [rfu-automation] Fwd: song with profanity
> >>To: Stephen Fonzo <fonzo.stephen at gmail.com>
> >>Cc: rfu-automation at lists.chambana.net
> >>
> >>   It is not correct that the word "ass" is not
> >>   permitted--there is no specific set of "forbidden
> >>   words" that the FCC uses when judging complaints.
> >>   I'm not arguing against removing the song, if the
> >>   context of the word was such that it seems likely to
> >>   be considered profanity. I'm just making sure people
> >>   understand that there is no list of forbidden words,
> >>   and so we should be looking for profane material on
> >>   the basis of its content, not just its choice of
> >>   words.
> >>
> >>   On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Stephen Fonzo
> >>   <fonzo.stephen at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>     The quickest solution is to view the Zara log, see
> >>     what track was playing at that time, and then
> >>     either remove or edit the song.  I can check this
> >>     tomorrow, try to find and then remove the track,
> >>     and if someone else in the Automation group wants
> >>     to edit it (if this will help; otherwise, don't
> >>     bother), they can do so later.
> >>
> >>     -Stephen
> >>
> >>     ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>     From: Raymond Morales <rmorales02 at gmail.com>
> >>     Date: Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 9:43 PM
> >>     Subject: song with profanity
> >>     To: Andrew Ó Baoill <andrew at funferal.org>, dan
> >>     blah <dan.blah at gmail.com>, Nicole Pion
> >>     <nicole.pion at gmail.com>, Stephen Fonzo
> >>     <fonzo.stephen at gmail.com>
> >>
> >>     I listed to WRFU and at 9:34pm on my car radio,
> >>     there was a hip-hop/jazzy sort of song with kids
> >>     singing the hook about taking it to the top. The
> >>     word ASS was explicitly used and that is not
> >>     permitted as far as I know outside of 10 pm and 6
> >>     am. I believe that this should be removed, but I
> >>     have no clue what song it is or who added it. I
> >>     heard this group on our rotation before, but this
> >>     is the first time that I have heard anything that
> >>     is profane.
> >>
> >>     -Ray
> >>     MD/PhD Candidate in Biochemistry
> >>     University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
> >>
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> >>     Students
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> >>
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> >>
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