[Commotion-dev] Agenda, priorities, collaboration, and other such things

Josh King joshuaheretic at gmail.com
Tue Feb 1 14:28:26 UTC 2011


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Hey everyone,

Sorry to be delayed as far as jumping into this, had to clear a few things off of my plate before being able to concentrate mainly on this through the next week or so. It's great to see so much interest and participation in this project.

Within the next couple of hours I'm going to be setting up a dev site where we can dump any new documentation and where I'll be spec'ing out a new, more detailed roadmap. With respect to discussion about the roadmap, the brief one that exists deals primarily with Commotion's development as a platform for OTI's projects, and doesn't necessarily reflect the priorities for getting this ready as a component for a communications platform that's ready to deploy in Egypt. We can prioritize the roadmap as far as what's critical, what can be accomplished in a sprint, and what is a longer-term goal.

I'll send out the link as soon as the site is up. Thanks!

"Chris Ritzo" <chris.ritzo at gmail.com> wrote:

>Hey all, just wanted to say first how awesome it is to have some new
>folks interested in hacking about on mesh wifi.
>Thanks to Brian I have the reading group time on my calendar, so I'll
>plan to talk more with you all there, but here are some initial
>thoughts to some of the recent discussion.
>
>First things first, in addition to the git repo, we have some online
>docs that we'd like you to have access to, read, and eventually edit.
>To give you group access to the wiki, please create an account on
>http://plexus.chambana.net - It's the frontend for requesting an LDAP
>account on chambana.net servers. More info on that later.
>
>On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Erich Heine <sophacles at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Just want to get a discussion going on-list about stuff related to
>the
>> actual work at hand.  What is the agenda? What is done, and what
>needs
>> doing?
>
>These are not in any sort of priority order...
>- *finish* a commotion image with the basic services running and
>deploy a test bed mesh within the IMC. Thanks to Brian's work this is
>almost done. The test bed will be our internal testing ground for
>whatever needs tested: bandwidth tests, distributed services,
>whatever. We also have access to outdoor hardware and could then
>expand that test mesh into downtown Urbana.
>- new WRT theme. write a new frontend theme (programmed in Lua/Luci
>http://luci.subsignal.org/ ) and application hooks for openwrt,
>customized for commotion firmware. This isn't a huge priority, but
>ties into the next item.
>- write a 1-2-3 setup Lua/Luci based init script that allows easy
>setup. one of the big goals that we have is a GUI frontend for the
>init scripts that Josh has worked on. This would need to be simple,
>allow a series of choices for a person with no technical knowledge to
>fill in some details (perhaps given to them by us or someone else
>technical who is deploying a mesh) that configs their device to joint
>the mesh, share bandwidth, etc.
>- Some talk on the list about Batman, Batman Advanced, and OpenMesh.
>These are great technologies and we could certainly use them. In fact,
>OTi would like to roll all of them into commotion so that the user or
>group deploying a mesh could choose which protocol they want to use.
>The OpenMesh dashboard is nice, and Josh has planed to roll it into
>the commotion firmware.
>- Why not just go with OpenMesh? I dunno, you tell me. What I've been
>told is that OLSR is simply a better routing protocol, just doesn't
>have the non-techie frontend yet. We're on the bleeding edge here
>folks, so any direction is fine. I could see us putting together a
>small OpenMesh test bed and do comparison tests with the OLSR test
>bed.
>- Windows OLSR client. There are old binaries on the olsr site, so we
>need to build an updated one from source. this involves installing
>cygwin, bison, flex, and any other dependencies, building the source
>and then putting together a gui wrapper for it. The build should be
>straightforward. Putting a GUI together is another. This needs to be
>done.
>
>> Im aware that getting the commotion distro up and working is part of
>it. As
>> is  getting the windows olsr client working. What in detail does this
>> entail? What other parts are needed?
>
>- Language support as a user preference would be great. It's supported
>in OpenWRT I believe. Remember that config script idea? Language
>option as a choice. There's also translation to think about for any
>new interface pages we write.
>
>That's enough for now. Hope to see you all Thursday evening.
>
>Chris Ritzo
>
>> Has anyone considered various language issues? So far everyone I've
>> encountered in this venture seems to be a native (or darn close)
>english
>> speaker, which is good for our work and coordination, but can we be
>sure to
>> get the appropriate level of understanding into Egypt on a proper
>timeline?
>> Speaking of timelines, what sort of timeline are we working on here?
>Any
>> thoughts/speculation on how long this may last before the gov't of
>egypt
>> backs down? I know there is negotiation for satellite bandwidth to be
>made
>> available... but that is out of (most of) our control. So should this
>just
>> be a sprint?
>> Hopefully this will get a discussion going!
>> Regards,
>> Erich
>> (sophacles on irc)
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Josh King

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(Written on my mobile device; please excuse brevity, typos.)
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