[Commotion-dev] Unifying Serval and Commotion Mesh (Paul Gardner-Stephen)

Hans of Guardian hans at guardianproject.info
Tue Dec 18 21:00:42 UTC 2012


We've made contact with them, but haven't heard from them in a while.  If I remember correctly, they rely on a custom kernel, which is a no go for Serval and Commotion.  But other parts might make sense to merge.

.hc

On Dec 18, 2012, at 4:56 AM, Eric de Vries wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> I was wondering if anyone had given some thought into taking consideration the SPAN project as well for a possible merge/converge ? They also have a simple and working UI for (dis)activating a mesh network on Android. 
> 
> On Sun 16 Dec 2012 09:07:38 PM EST, Paul Gardner-Stephen wrote:
>> Hi All,
> 
>> From a Serval Project perspective, we see much value in converging on
>> a single "standard" SSID (and ideally BSSID) for WiFi mesh networks
>> for Serval and Commotion.  The logical choice is almost certainly to
>> use whatever values that Commotion uses.
> 
>> In fact, what we would like to see in time is that Commotion and
>> Serval's Android ad-hoc WiFi mesh management software converge into a
>> single thing, and possible a single APK that contains all Commotion
>> and Serval functions, or possibly it will be two separate APKs --
>> there are arguments for and against.
> 
>> But back to the present...
> 
>> The BSSID/ad-hoc bug issues on Android phones remains a source of
>> intense pain (which is part of why we are working on a "mesh helper"
>> device that would basically be a cross between an OpenWRT router and
>> mobile phone, that would basically be pocket-sized battery-powered
>> WiFi adhoc+AP plus long-range UHF radio).
> 
>> So I am not sure that a final solution is possible now, but we are
>> thinking about our default SSID for the Serval Mesh 0.90 release we
>> are hoping to have out by Christmas, and we hope to continue the
>> conversation about converging this all as much as possible.
> 
>> Our feeling in the lab here is that until we have interoperation
>> sorted out, that we will probably default to a serval-specific SSID,
>> probably mesh.servalproject.org, so that it will point people to a
>> (yet to be populated) web page where they can learn more.  But for
>> 0.91 and later, we hope to make moves towards convergence.  Perhaps
>> having a short list of configured network names and patterns is the
>> next step, but this is all really thinking out loud for now.
> 
>> Paul.
> 
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