[Commotion-dev] Setting masq & MTU values correctly with OLSRd SmartGateway

Seamus Tuohy s2e at opentechinstitute.org
Sun Aug 4 17:27:03 UTC 2013


Yea, I think with the info you have its plus the debugging info on the networks we have seen (if those who have seen this could send that) we can create a close approximation and monitor it closely.


Dan Staples <danstaples at opentechinstitute.org> wrote:
>On Sun 04 Aug 2013 12:25:35 PM EDT, Ben West wrote:
>> It unfortunately wouldn't be possible for me to revert these node
>back
>> to known bag configuration and do packet capture, since the nodes are
>> under active use by folks other than me (their patience can be finite
>> ;).  Usually, my encounters with this issue spring from complaints
>> about nodes losing their Internet route and needing recovery.  So,
>the
>> testing results I would be able to share for this instance are going
>> to be limited to largely empirical results.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Dan Staples
>> <danstaples at opentechinstitute.org
>> <mailto:danstaples at opentechinstitute.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     On Sat 03 Aug 2013 10:08:56 PM EDT, Will Hawkins wrote:
>>     > Ben,
>>     >
>>     > Thank you for sending this out to the list. Keep us updated on
>your
>>     > progress. We will work through your recommendations on our end
>>     and see
>>     > what comes of it. Thanks again!
>>     >
>>     > Will
>>     >
>>     > On 08/03/2013 08:38 PM, Ben West wrote:
>>     >> Hi All,
>>     >>
>>     >> I'm emailing here in follow-up to a recent thread on
>>     commotion-discuss
>>     >> about repeater nodes not reliably having their internet-bound
>>     traffic
>>     >> routed.
>>     >>
>>     >> In particular, I was seeing my own repeater nodes, both 1-hop
>>     way and
>>     >> especially 2-hops away, apparently losing their connection to
>the
>>     >> Internet once the local OLSRd instance had inserted its tnl_*
>>     interface
>>     >> (i.e. a few minutes after power up).  I'm highlighting the
>>     instance of a
>>     >> node 2-hops away, since in practice that can be difficult to
>>     replicate.
>>     >>
>>     >> Below is the readme about the SmartGateway feature.  Do please
>>     note in
>>     >> particular the recommendation to add an iptables rules to the
>>     gateway
>>     >> node, clamping all packets leaving the mesh to the same MTU as
>>     what is
>>     >> used by the OLSRd SmartGateway tunnels.
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>    
>http://svn.dd-wrt.com/browser/src/router/olsrd/README-Olsr-Extensions
>>     >>
>>     >> This seemed to resonate with a sporadic problem I'd been
>having
>>     with
>>     >> repeater nodes occasionally not seeing their Internet-bound
>traffic
>>     >> correctly routed, despite all routing tables appearing valid.
>>      These
>>     >> repeater nodes restored their Internet connection when I
>>     enabled the
>>     >> 'mtu_fix' option on their local firewall.  But not
>consistently so,
>>     >> making the problem very challenging to resolve.
>>     >>
>>     >> So, following the advice from the readme, I added this to
>>     >> /etc/firewall.user on my gateway node (eth0 is its wired
>uplink):
>>     >>
>>     >> iptables -A FORWARD -o eth0 -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,RST SYN -j
>>     TCPMSS
>>     >> --set-mss 1480
>>     >>
>>     >> On the gateway node with wired WAN and LAN ports, in addition
>>     to the
>>     >> mesh interface, I set these firewall zones in
>/etc/config/firewall:
>>     >>
>>     >> config zone
>>     >>     option name 'mesh'
>>     >>     option network 'mesh'
>>     >>     option input 'ACCEPT'
>>     >>     option output 'ACCEPT'
>>     >>     option forward 'ACCEPT'
>>     >>     option 'masq' '1'
>>     >>
>>     >> config zone
>>     >>     option name 'wan'
>>     >>     option output 'ACCEPT'
>>     >>     option masq '1'
>>     >>     option input 'DROP'
>>     >>     option forward 'ACCEPT'
>>     >>
>>     >> config zone
>>     >>     option input 'ACCEPT'
>>     >>     option output 'ACCEPT'
>>     >>     option forward 'ACCEPT'
>>     >>     option name 'lan'
>>     >>     option network 'lan'
>>     >>
>>     >> config forwarding
>>     >>     option src 'mesh'
>>     >>     option dest 'wan'
>>     >>
>>     >> config forwarding
>>     >>     option src 'lan'
>>     >>     option dest 'wan'
>>     >>
>>     >> config 'forwarding'
>>     >>     option 'src' 'mesh'
>>     >>     option 'dest' 'mesh'
>>     >>
>>     >> Next, on repeater nodes with only one LAN port
>(counter-intuitively
>>     >> labeled 'wan'), these are the firewall zones:
>>     >>
>>     >> config 'zone'
>>     >>     option 'name' 'mesh'
>>     >>     option 'input' 'ACCEPT'
>>     >>     option 'output' 'ACCEPT'
>>     >>     option 'forward' 'ACCEPT'
>>     >>
>>     >> config zone
>>     >>     option name        wan
>>     >>     option input    ACCEPT
>>     >>     option output    ACCEPT
>>     >>     option forward    ACCEPT
>>     >>     option masq        1
>>     >>
>>     >> config 'forwarding'
>>     >>     option 'src' 'wan'
>>     >>     option 'dest' 'mesh'
>>     >>
>>     >> config 'forwarding'
>>     >>         option 'src' 'mesh'
>>     >>         option 'dest' 'mesh'
>>     >>
>>     >> In particular, note how the 'masq' option is enabled on the
>>     zone 'mesh'
>>     >> only for the gateway node, but not on the repeater nodes.
>>      Likewise,
>>     >> 'masq' is enabled on the zone corresponding to the local LAN
>>     port of the
>>     >> repeater nodes, but not on the LAN port of the gateway node. 
>For
>>     >> Commotion-OpenWRT, the firewall zones of the LAN ports would
>be
>>     >> equivalent to those of the APs of each node.
>>     >>
>>     >> This configuration described above appears to be what works
>for
>>     using
>>     >> the SmartGateway feature with OLSRd v0.6.5.4-commotion-0.1-1.
>>     >>
>>     >> I'm trying to review the firewall rules that commotiond is
>>     generating
>>     >> for gateway and repeater nodes, to see if they follow.
>>      However, I'm
>>     >> posting to the listserv now in case someone else happens to
>see an
>>     >> oversight in how Commotion-OpenWRT is deploying OLSRd and
>>     firewall config.
>>     >>
>>     >> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Ben West <ben at gowasabi.net
>>     <mailto:ben at gowasabi.net>
>>     >> <mailto:ben at gowasabi.net <mailto:ben at gowasabi.net>>> wrote:
>>     >>
>>     >>     Hi All,
>>     >>
>>     >>     I can confirm having encountered similar issues
>specifically
>>     >>     repeater nodes not correctly masq'ing AP traffic to the
>>     Internet,
>>     >>     while gateway nodes do.  My own problems were encountered
>>     running
>>     >>     both private APs and coovachilli APs (as opposed to
>>     nodogsplash) on
>>     >>     nodes running the WasabiNet firmware, not
>>     Commotion-OpenWRT. However
>>     >>     the firewall config is quite similar.
>>     >>
>>     >>     So, on repeater nodes I have the 'masq' option enabled for
>>     zones
>>     >>     mesh, ap1, and ap2 (i.e. public and private APs).  On
>>     gateway nodes,
>>     >>     it seems that I need to have 'masq' disabled for zones ap1
>>     and ap2.
>>     >>
>>     >>     On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Ryan Gerety
>>     >>     <gerety at opentechinstitute.org
>>     <mailto:gerety at opentechinstitute.org>
>>     <mailto:gerety at opentechinstitute.org
>>     <mailto:gerety at opentechinstitute.org>>>
>>     >>     wrote:
>>     >>
>>     >>         After a further chat with Preston, this seems like it
>>     *might* be
>>     >>         the same problem I encountered at the Hackerspace in
>Tunis.
>>     >>          When using the AP of the gateway node the client can
>>     access the
>>     >>         internet and when on another mesh node (say via ssh)
>>     you can
>>     >>         access the internet, however, when you are on the AP
>of
>>     another
>>     >>         node you cannot access the internet.
>>     >>
>>     >>         I had sent this to the tech list about two weeks ago,
>>     and in the
>>     >>         office Seamus and Griffin thought it might be a zone
>issue.
>>     >>          Seamus and Griffin did you discover what the problem
>>     actually
>>     >>         was?  Were you able to replicate the problem?
>>     >>
>>     >>         Best,
>>     >>         Ryan
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >>         <snip>
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >>     --
>>     >>     Ben West
>>     >>     http://gowasabi.net
>>     >>     ben at gowasabi.net <mailto:ben at gowasabi.net>
>>     <mailto:ben at gowasabi.net <mailto:ben at gowasabi.net>>
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>>     <tel:314-246-9434>>
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >> --
>>     >> Ben West
>>     >> http://gowasabi.net
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>>     Would we be able to verify the MTU problem by doing packet
>captures
>>     along the route from a repeater to a gateway, and checking the
>MTU of
>>     packets that get through versus those that get dropped?
>>
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>>
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>
>We could try it on our test networks to diagnose the problem, if you 
>think it would lead to useful data. I'm just trying to think of ways we
>
>could test your hypothesis about the MTU issue...
>
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