[Commotion-dev] Preventing Commotion nodes from handing out DHCP?

Preston Rhea prestonrhea at opentechinstitute.org
Wed May 15 15:10:31 UTC 2013


I went with Josh's recommendation, but once I clicked save and apply, the
system hung on "waiting for router to update." I tried reopening the window
and got no connection. I power cycled the router and it won't even let me
ping the router.

By implementing dhcp client only, did I make it impossible to interact with
the device via Ethernet? Or did I just brick the router?
On May 15, 2013 1:03 AM, "Will Hawkins" <hawkinsw at opentechinstitute.org>
wrote:

> Possible update, see below:
>
> On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 00:36 EDT, "Will Hawkins" <
> hawkinsw at opentechinstitute.org> wrote:
>
> > You all beat me to it!
> >
> > I think that Josh made an excellent, easy suggestion. In fact, it is so
> good and obvious that my planned response now looks silly.
> >
> > Since Josh's suggestion will do the trick, feel free to stop reading.
> But, if you're interested here's how I was going to respond:
> >
> > I pulled up the function that sets the interface information for a
> Commotion Plug type interface. That's in /lib/network/commotion.sh. You can
> view the file through the web here:
> https://github.com/opentechinstitute/commotion-openwrt/blob/master/commotionfeed/commotionbase/files/lib/network/commotion.sh
> >
> > Check down to line 519. We need to change the parameters to udhcpc
> (stored in the variable $dhcpopts). The existing options (-q -n) tell
> udhcpc to attempt to obtain a dhcp lease and a) exit immediately after a
> lease is obtained and b) exit and return failure if a lease cannot be
> obtained. In your case, the desired behavior is be for udhcpc to
> continuously ask for a lease until it gets one and then continue to refresh
> that lease periodically. To do that we just let udhcpc do its default
> behavior by removing those options entirely. Line 519 becomes
> > local dhcpopts=""
> >
>
> I just realized that udhcpc might not ever go into the background without
> using the -b option. The -b option means "Background if lease is not
> immediately obtained". This is definitely what we want, but I can't say for
> sure whether the option is necessary or not. If udhcpc never goes into the
> background, the node will sit there waiting to complete its boot process
> until it gets a lease. A problem indeed.
>
> And, just to be clear,
>
> a) Josh is the expert,
> b) My suggestions are untested,
> c) I'm trying to be helpful, and
> d) Josh is the expert. :-)
>
> Will
>
> > That's not enough, though. We need to also tell remainder of the
> function to execute the code for case 0 (which means that udhcpc
> successfully got a lease) no matter what. The "easiest" way to do that
> would be to change line 530 to look like:
> > case "0" in
> >
> > With these changes, the behavior would be
> >
> > 1) plug interface comes up,
> > 2) udhcpc asks for an IP address and
> > 3) the plug interface never acts as a dhcp server.
> >
> > In essence, this is exactly what Josh's suggestion accomplishes. I will
> defer to Josh on the implications for his suggestion w.r.t. to olsrd. There
> may be some special "stuff" that has to happen for networks on the plug
> interfaces to get into hna for olsrd.
> >
> > I hope that this was helpful and not rambling. Please keep us posted
> tomorrow if you need help. We'll be around on IRC, etc.
> >
> > Will
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 21:37 EDT, Josh King <jking at chambana.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Preston,
> > >
> > > I do not have a node in front of me at the moment so I can't tell for
> > > certain (I am referencing my home router, which is running a different
> > > version of OpenWRT), but you should be able to set this fairly easily
> > > through the LuCI admin interface. In the admin interface, just go to
> > > Network->Interfaces->Plug. There should be a dropdown menu for
> > > "Protocol." Switch it to "DHCP Client," and click "Switch Protocol."
> > > This will remove the ethernet interface from Commotion's configuration,
> > > and instead it will just be a normal DHCP interface. Is the node
> > > intended to advertise that interface as a gateway?
> > >
> > > On 05/14/2013 04:52 PM, Preston Rhea wrote:
> > > > Hello dev team,
> > > >
> > > > Tomorrow, we are going up the Visitation Rectory steeple in Red Hook
> > > > to install a co-ordinated distribution layer and Commotion layer
> > > > co-location site. BKFiber will install some stock 5GHz and 900MHz
> > > > equipment at the top of the steeple, we'll put two Commotion
> > > > NanoStations in the middle of the steeple, and all will be connected
> > > > by a Ubiquiti ToughSwitch.
> > > >
> > > > The issue: we want the Commotion nodes to not interfere with DHCP
> > > > leases. Those should all be left up to the BKfiber infrastructure -
> we
> > > > need to ensure that the Commotion nodes can only receive, never give
> > > > out, DHCP leases. This is in line with our multi-layer approach, with
> > > > a Commotion community-managed layer hanging off of a
> > > > professionally-managed distribution layer. So even if the power goes
> > > > out, this should always be the case when the power comes back on.
> > > >
> > > > The question: What exactly should I do to make this happen on the
> > > > Commotion nodes? If you can email a precise solution, it will A: help
> > > > me since I will be in the steeple all day, and B: help us turn it
> into
> > > > nice documentation for the future.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Preston
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Preston Rhea
> > > > Program Associate, Open Technology Institute
> > > > New America Foundation
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