[Commotion-discuss] Mesh networks and Commotion in the New York Times
LScop
luigi.scopelliti at fastwebnet.it
Thu Nov 14 21:11:51 UTC 2013
First of all many thanks to all the O.T.I wonderful persons who contributed
to organize the IS4CWN 20013 in Berlin.
I had the opportunity to meet ,talk and listen some of you and it was a
great experience.
I want to mention the moving talk of Virginia Eubanks.
She has really changed my point of view.Thanks again.
Now it is my moment.
I have submitted to the principals of 2 high schools of my own town a
project to wifi connect the two schools and create a mesh network.
The network entirley created and managed by students.
Of course I'll use Commotion solution.
I had to present the project to the students representatives in the next
weeks.
I was going to write to this list asking some help.
How can I convince them and give good reasons to adopt this project and
show the advantages compared to the wifi deployed on my town by the
telephone companies in these days/weeks?
The article "Home Wireless Network Keeps the Snoops Away" is of great help
to answer the question.
Any other suggestion from your experience?
Luigi
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1. Mesh networks and Commotion in the New York Times (Ben West)
2. Re: Mesh networks and Commotion in the New York Times
(Sascha Meinrath)
3. Re: Mesh networks and Commotion in the New York Times
(Joshua Breitbart)
4. Re: Mesh networks and Commotion in the New York Times
(L. Aaron Kaplan)
5. Re: Mesh networks and Commotion in the New York Times (Ben West)
6. Re: Mesh networks and Commotion in the New York Times
(L. Aaron Kaplan)
7. Re: Mesh networks and Commotion in the New York Times
(Sascha Meinrath)
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 09:56:13 -0600
From: Ben West <ben at gowasabi.net>
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Subject: [Commotion-discuss] Mesh networks and Commotion in the New
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Home Wireless Network Keeps the Snoops Away, by Kate Murphy
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/14/technology/personaltech/homemade-wireless-networks-keep-the-snoops-away.html
Unfortunately, Kate told me all mentions of St. Louis or WasabiNet were
victims of editing. Still, she did say my manic name-dropping did help to
get OTI, Commotion, FNF, etc into the story and make it a better article.
(You're welcome ;)
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 11:55:18 -0500
From: Sascha Meinrath <meinrath at gmail.com>
To: Ben West <ben at gowasabi.net>, commotion-discuss
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Much obliged! Thanks, Ben.
--Sascha
On 11/14/2013 10:56 AM, Ben West wrote:
> Home Wireless Network Keeps the Snoops Away, by Kate Murphy
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/14/technology/personaltech/homemade-wireless-networks-keep-the-snoops-away.html
>
> Unfortunately, Kate told me all mentions of St. Louis or WasabiNet were
> victims
> of editing. Still, she did say my manic name-dropping did help to get
> OTI,
> Commotion, FNF, etc into the story and make it a better article.
>
> (You're welcome ;)
>
> --
> Ben West
> http://gowasabi.net
> ben at gowasabi.net <mailto:ben at gowasabi.net>
> 314-246-9434
>
>
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:40:36 -0500
From: Joshua Breitbart <breitbart at newamerica.net>
To: commotion-discuss at lists.chambana.net
Subject: Re: [Commotion-discuss] Mesh networks and Commotion in the
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Yeah. The great strength of this article is that it mentions so many
different organizations and networks. It shows that this is a movement,
not just one project. It's too bad WasabiNet doesn't get a mention in
this particular article, but those who know certainly know.
On 11/14/13 11:55 AM, Sascha Meinrath wrote:
> Much obliged! Thanks, Ben.
>
> --Sascha
>
> On 11/14/2013 10:56 AM, Ben West wrote:
>> Home Wireless Network Keeps the Snoops Away, by Kate Murphy
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/14/technology/personaltech/homemade-wireless-networks-keep-the-snoops-away.html
>>
>> Unfortunately, Kate told me all mentions of St. Louis or WasabiNet were
>> victims
>> of editing. Still, she did say my manic name-dropping did help to get
>> OTI,
>> Commotion, FNF, etc into the story and make it a better article.
>>
>> (You're welcome ;)
>>
>> --
>> Ben West
>> http://gowasabi.net
>> ben at gowasabi.net <mailto:ben at gowasabi.net>
>> 314-246-9434
>>
>>
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 19:36:42 +0100
From: "L. Aaron Kaplan" <aaron at lo-res.org>
To: Joshua Breitbart <breitbart at newamerica.net>
Cc: commotion-discuss at lists.chambana.net
Subject: Re: [Commotion-discuss] Mesh networks and Commotion in the
New York Times
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On Nov 14, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Joshua Breitbart <breitbart at newamerica.net>
wrote:
> Yeah. The great strength of this article is that it mentions so many
> different organizations and networks. It shows that this is a movement,
> not just one project. It's too bad WasabiNet doesn't get a mention in
> this particular article, but those who know certainly know.
right, and we always have this reference in addition:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wireless_community_networks_by_region
a.
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 13:01:39 -0600
From: Ben West <ben at gowasabi.net>
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No worries.
The mesh here in St. Louis is on the small side, compared to other
community networks mentioned in the article which are 10x larger, or more.
Also, in the past, sudden, unexpected press exposure has sometimes led to
equally sudden floods of emails and phone calls to effect of "Hey, I live
10 km away, can you put an antenna on my roof tomorrow?" or even more
sinister stuff like "You're breaking the law!" Maybe it's just a Missouri
thing.
At any rate, I'm just glad I had to opportunity to introduce Kate to OTI,
the wifi summit, FNF, etc. She was apparently unaware of them before
calling me.
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 12:36 PM, L. Aaron Kaplan <aaron at lo-res.org> wrote:
>
> On Nov 14, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Joshua Breitbart <breitbart at newamerica.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Yeah. The great strength of this article is that it mentions so many
> > different organizations and networks. It shows that this is a movement,
> > not just one project. It's too bad WasabiNet doesn't get a mention in
> > this particular article, but those who know certainly know.
>
> right, and we always have this reference in addition:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wireless_community_networks_by_region
>
> a.
>
>
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 20:04:51 +0100
From: "L. Aaron Kaplan" <aaron at lo-res.org>
To: Ben West <ben at gowasabi.net>
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Subject: Re: [Commotion-discuss] Mesh networks and Commotion in the
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On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:01 PM, Ben West <ben at gowasabi.net> wrote:
> No worries.
>
> The mesh here in St. Louis is on the small side, compared to other
> community networks mentioned in the article which are 10x larger, or more.
> Also, in the past, sudden, unexpected press exposure has sometimes led to
> equally sudden floods of emails and phone calls to effect of "Hey, I live
> 10 km away, can you put an antenna on my roof tomorrow?" or even more
> sinister stuff like "You're breaking the law!" Maybe it's just a Missouri
> thing.
>
> At any rate, I'm just glad I had to opportunity to introduce Kate to OTI,
> the wifi summit, FNF, etc. She was apparently unaware of them before
> calling me.
>
>
Well, just for the record: I guess I also pointed her towards the same
organisations. But it really does not matter.
What matters is that there is a continued interest in our community mesh
network topics.
That's *good*.
a.
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 14:20:18 -0500
From: Sascha Meinrath <meinrath at gmail.com>
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This is really exciting! What's truly important is that we all continue to
point reporters to everyone else doing awesome work in this space. The
interconnections amongst projects and initiatives is what makes our movement
strong and garners interest from the press.
With Commotion gearing up to release v1.0 to ring in the new year, I expect
that
we'll be highlighting the work of numerous allies around the globe when
reporters start calling. We definitely need more leads on projects and
initiatives that are deploying Commotion (by design, we have no way to track
Commotion users, so we don't necessarily know where the technology is being
deployed).
- --Sascha
On 11/14/2013 02:04 PM, L. Aaron Kaplan wrote:
>
> On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:01 PM, Ben West <ben at gowasabi.net> wrote:
>
>> No worries.
>>
>> The mesh here in St. Louis is on the small side, compared to other
>> community networks mentioned in the article which are 10x larger, or
>> more. Also, in the past, sudden, unexpected press exposure has sometimes
>> led to equally sudden floods of emails and phone calls to effect of "Hey,
>> I live 10 km away, can you put an antenna on my roof tomorrow?" or even
>> more sinister stuff like "You're breaking the law!" Maybe it's just a
>> Missouri thing.
>>
>> At any rate, I'm just glad I had to opportunity to introduce Kate to OTI,
>> the wifi summit, FNF, etc. She was apparently unaware of them before
>> calling me.
>>
>>
> Well, just for the record: I guess I also pointed her towards the same
> organisations. But it really does not matter.
> What matters is that there is a continued interest in our community mesh
> network topics.
> That's *good*.
>
> a.
> :)
>
>
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