[Commotion-discuss] networking/guidelines-for-mesh/

Josh King jking at opentechinstitute.org
Fri Apr 10 11:12:50 EDT 2015


Hi Francis,

At least for mesh networks like Commotion, any network traffic
pertaining to mesh routing happens at the IP layer or above. Most of the
tips in that document relate to segmenting the network at the radio
level to reduce interference, but IP traffic would continue to be
propagated seamlessly across the whole network. So this is just a
strategy for reducing interference, and as far as the mesh routing and
IP addressing is concerned this is still a single network. A note: this
may be different for mesh networking implementations like batman-adv or
802.11s, which operate closer to the radio layer.

Broadly, these are largely strategies trying to mitigate the
shortcomings in wifi, not in mesh networks specifically. Similar issues
are going to crop up when building infrastructure using wifi, regardless
of whether you're using Commotion, Ubiquiti's stock firmware, or some
other software. Building large and complicated wireless networks is
always going to take thought and consideration, and mesh networking
isn't a magic bullet for that. But I do think it's a useful tool, in
that it can allow networks to be smarter and do a lot of complicated
configuration themselves, thus putting the construction of complex
networks within the reach of more people and communities. It's up to
those people and communities to decide whether or not it's one of the
tools they want to use.

On 04/09/2015 07:41 PM, Francis X. Gentile wrote:
> 
> https://commotionwireless.net/docs/cck/networking/guidelines-for-mesh/
> 
> so if you are walking or driving from on smaller mesh another, on
> separate channels, whose smaller meshes are connected by a long distance
> backbone which uses the Ubiquiti software (which has the channel hopping
> for 5ghz to access more channels, and the weak strong signal unbiased
> allocation).....
> 
> how does the mesh retain its identity and server access across a
> different network (and thus ip address protocol) does the mesh software
> put itself in an envelope and pass along the alien network to stay
> cohesive at both ends?
> 
> Or is the wide area mesh system abandoned , and the only remaining use
> for mesh is for at the fringes of reception from the back bone for
> another hop or two,
> 
> but using the unbiased weak strong signal allocation of the Ubiquity
> system, a longer distance 2 ghz router could be an access point for
> longer distances anyway?
> 
> If every user in the mesh is say, a fire truck among many traveling, or
> a bunch of RVs, or a climbing expedition, or driving mob of vehicles
> going to burning man, it this the only place mesh ad hoc mobile networks
> are really needed?  is a headless self reconfiguring network on one
> channel necessary?
> 
> so is the deployment of non monopolisitic corporate local intranet or
> internet access being delayed by pointless machinations about mesh
> networking when you could just as well deploy stock wireless internet
> service provider equipment from Ubiquity et al?
> 
> 
> 
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