[CWN-Summit] Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 1, Issue 6

Tue Aug 31 15:04:06 CDT 2004

Did you enter the right docket number?  It's 04-151.  If you mistyped, you 
would potentially get a message from a closed proceeding.

Harold

At 02:48 PM 8/31/2004, you wrote:
>Sascha, I tried to send a comment in, and it said it wasn't open for
>comment. What am I doing wrong?
>
>mrr
>
>
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> >    1. Re: Recent Washington Developments (Sascha Meinrath)
> >    2. Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 1, Issue 5 (Umesh Thakkar)
> >    3. Re: Recent Washington Developments (Stelios Valavanis)
> >    4. Who attended the Municipal Wireless Session (2B)? (Kari Gray)
> >    5. Re: Who attended the Municipal Wireless Session (2B)?
> >       (Stelios Valavanis)
> >    6. Amsterdam Goes Wireless (Jim Baller)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 12:01:53 -0500 (CDT)
> > From: Sascha Meinrath <sascha at ucimc.org>
> > Subject: Re: [CWN-Summit] Recent Washington Developments
> > To: National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
> > E-mail List <cwn-summit at cuwireless.net>
> > Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0408301158490.23781 at imsahp.cu.groogroo.com>
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> > On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Harold Feld wrote:
> >
> > > Time for me to call in some five minutes. :-)
> >
> > Done & done -- hope it doesn't hurt to be both on their as an organization
> > and as an interested individual.  Sending in the comment _really_ did only
> > take 5 minutes -- if everyone on this list sent a comment in today it
> > would represent an amazing counterpoint to the arguments being made by
> > Intel and the Satellite Industry Association.  Please take a few minutes
> > right now to do this.
> >
> > --Sascha
> >
> > Here's the basic info:
> >
> > > Both Intel and SIA promote use of this space for licensed, rather than
> > > unlicensed, access.  Notably, Both point to the lack of response by the
> > > unlicensed access community and the number of parties who filed in favor
> > > of licensing the band.
> > >
> > > Now this is something of a crock, since we had NYC Wireless, CUWIN and
> > > Dandin Group (Dewayn Hendricks shop) on our comments, along with
> > > Consumer Fed. of America (50 million members through their individual
> > > organizations) and a host of others.
> > >
> > > But this is what I was talking about in CU.  Our silence has impact as
> > > well as our speech.  How can we tell Congress that people really want
> > > this stuff when there is basically one set of comments?
> > >
> > > I would urge everyone to take five minutes and file now in this
> > > proceeding. Go to http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi.
> > >
> > > Then fill out the form.  The docket number is 04-151.  In the space
> > > marked "file brief comment," please say who you are and that access to
> > > this space for both high power and low power mobile devices would be
> > > very useful.  If you feel like it, please explicitly endorse the issues
> > > raised in by NYCWireless, et al.  We objected to the professional
> > > installer requirement and the inclusion of identity beacons in mobile
> > > devices.  The NYCWireless comments should be at the MAP and NAF
> > > websites.
> > >
> > > Because the IEEE 802.18 Committee has submitted comments suggesting that
> > > this band be reserved exclusively for high-power point-to-point links, I
> > > would urge those who feel strongly about low power mesh networks to
> > > discuss the importance of low power as well as high power.
> > >
> > > If you have some pre-existing materials in Word or PDF or WordPerfect,
> > > you can include them as an attachment.  If you want to write lengthy
> > > comments and submit them, write them in one of these formats, then
> > > submit as an attachment.
> > >
> > > If you want to see what else has been filed in the proceeding, so you
> > > can reply to these comments, follow this link.
> > > http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/comsrch_v2.cgi and plug in the docket
> > > number (04-151).
> > >
> > > Technical comments explaining the value of unlicensed and rebutting
> > > licensees would be enormously helpful.
> > >
> > > In other news, the unlicensed access in the broadcast bands proceeding
> > > (04-186) has been delayed 90 days.  The new deadline for filing is
> > > November 30.  An analysis of this is at my blog, Tales of the Sausage
> > > Factory, hosted at http://www.wetmachine.com If you are interested in
> > > helping us get comments ready for this proceeding, please let me know.
> >
> > --
> > Sascha Meinrath
> > Project Manager & Pres.  *  Project Coordinator  *  Project Manager
> > Acorn Worker Collective *** CU Wireless Network *** Eggplant Active Media
> > www.acorncollective.com  *  www.cuwireless.net   *  www.eggplantmedia.com
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 13:08:44 -0500 (CDT)
> > From: Umesh Thakkar <uthakkar at ncsa.uiuc.edu>
> > Subject: [CWN-Summit] Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 1, Issue 5
> > To: cwn-summit at cuwireless.net
> > Cc: cwn-summit-request at cuwireless.net
> > Message-ID: <200408301808.i7UI8iA22765 at pecos.ncsa.uiuc.edu>
> >
> >
> > I have already unscribed to the list. Please would you double-check
> > your mail-list.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Umesh
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 13:19:31 -0500
> > From: Stelios Valavanis <stel at onShore.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CWN-Summit] Recent Washington Developments
> > To: National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
> > E-mail List <cwn-summit at cuwireless.net>
> > Message-ID: <200408301319.31331.stel at onShore.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > done. took me 2mins. i pointed out greater commercial development
>potential
> > with openness. i feel that i represent that to some extent in our group
>even
> > though i'm also on the non-profit side. the FCC needs to hear it.
> >
> > On Monday 30 August 2004 12:01 pm, Sascha Meinrath wrote:
> > > On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Harold Feld wrote:
> > > > Time for me to call in some five minutes. :-)
> > >
> > > Done & done -- hope it doesn't hurt to be both on their as an
>organization
> > > and as an interested individual.  Sending in the comment _really_ did
>only
> > > take 5 minutes -- if everyone on this list sent a comment in today it
> > > would represent an amazing counterpoint to the arguments being made by
> > > Intel and the Satellite Industry Association.  Please take a few minutes
> > > right now to do this.
> > >
> > > --Sascha
> > >
> > > Here's the basic info:
> > > > Both Intel and SIA promote use of this space for licensed, rather than
> > > > unlicensed, access.  Notably, Both point to the lack of response by
>the
> > > > unlicensed access community and the number of parties who filed in
>favor
> > > > of licensing the band.
> > > >
> > > > Now this is something of a crock, since we had NYC Wireless, CUWIN and
> > > > Dandin Group (Dewayn Hendricks shop) on our comments, along with
> > > > Consumer Fed. of America (50 million members through their individual
> > > > organizations) and a host of others.
> > > >
> > > > But this is what I was talking about in CU.  Our silence has impact as
> > > > well as our speech.  How can we tell Congress that people really want
> > > > this stuff when there is basically one set of comments?
> > > >
> > > > I would urge everyone to take five minutes and file now in this
> > > > proceeding. Go to http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi.
> > > >
> > > > Then fill out the form.  The docket number is 04-151.  In the space
> > > > marked "file brief comment," please say who you are and that access to
> > > > this space for both high power and low power mobile devices would be
> > > > very useful.  If you feel like it, please explicitly endorse the
>issues
> > > > raised in by NYCWireless, et al.  We objected to the professional
> > > > installer requirement and the inclusion of identity beacons in mobile
> > > > devices.  The NYCWireless comments should be at the MAP and NAF
> > > > websites.
> > > >
> > > > Because the IEEE 802.18 Committee has submitted comments suggesting
>that
> > > > this band be reserved exclusively for high-power point-to-point links,
>I
> > > > would urge those who feel strongly about low power mesh networks to
> > > > discuss the importance of low power as well as high power.
> > > >
> > > > If you have some pre-existing materials in Word or PDF or WordPerfect,
> > > > you can include them as an attachment.  If you want to write lengthy
> > > > comments and submit them, write them in one of these formats, then
> > > > submit as an attachment.
> > > >
> > > > If you want to see what else has been filed in the proceeding, so you
> > > > can reply to these comments, follow this link.
> > > > http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/comsrch_v2.cgi and plug in the
>docket
> > > > number (04-151).
> > > >
> > > > Technical comments explaining the value of unlicensed and rebutting
> > > > licensees would be enormously helpful.
> > > >
> > > > In other news, the unlicensed access in the broadcast bands proceeding
> > > > (04-186) has been delayed 90 days.  The new deadline for filing is
> > > > November 30.  An analysis of this is at my blog, Tales of the Sausage
> > > > Factory, hosted at http://www.wetmachine.com If you are interested in
> > > > helping us get comments ready for this proceeding, please let me know.
> >
> > --
> > _______________________________________
> > stel valavanis  http://www.onshore.com/
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 14:08:45 -0700
> > From: "Kari Gray" <kari at commonassets.org>
> > Subject: [CWN-Summit] Who attended the Municipal Wireless Session
> > (2B)?
> > To: <cwn-summit at cuwireless.net>
> > Cc: Heather Stewart <heather at commonassets.org>, Adam Werbach
> > <adam at commonassets.org>
> > Message-ID: <005c01c48ed5$8b2c6fe0$d2f0fea9 at D6L6L441>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Hope all is well with all of you.
> >
> > We forgot to invite you all to sign up at our session. Could you please
>let me know if you attended the session with Jim Baller, Greg Richardson,
>Jim Binkley, Matt Rantanen and Annie and Pete Collins at the Summit?
> >
> > Please include your name, organization and contact phone number and email
>addresses.
> >
> > Thank you!
> > Kari
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 16:37:49 -0500
> > From: Stelios Valavanis <stel at onShore.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CWN-Summit] Who attended the Municipal Wireless Session
> > (2B)?
> > To: National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
> > E-mail List <cwn-summit at cuwireless.net>
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> > Stelios Valavanis
> > onShore, Inc.
> > 312-850-5200 x115
> >
> > On Monday 30 August 2004 04:08 pm, Kari Gray wrote:
> > > Hope all is well with all of you.
> > >
> > > We forgot to invite you all to sign up at our session. Could you please
>let
> > > me know if you attended the session with Jim Baller, Greg Richardson,
>Jim
> > > Binkley, Matt Rantanen and Annie and Pete Collins at the Summit?
> > >
> > > Please include your name, organization and contact phone number and
>email
> > > addresses.
> > >
> > > Thank you!
> > > Kari
> > >
> > > !DSPAM:41339774127021332879054!
> >
> > --
> > _______________________________________
> > stel valavanis  http://www.onshore.com/
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 09:04:16 -0400
> > From: "Jim Baller" <jim at baller.com>
> > Subject: [CWN-Summit] Amsterdam Goes Wireless
> > To: "CWN List" <cwn-summit at cuwireless.net>
> > Message-ID: <004a01c48f5b$05b265f0$6401a8c0 at CPUHB002>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > http://zdnet.com.com/2102-1103_2-5330478.html?tag=printthis
> >
> > Jim Baller
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