[CWN-Summit] Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 2, Issue 6

Tue Sep 7 16:07:53 CDT 2004

D2D Wireless, Direct 2 Data...

Read the below links for more info. Not as technical as I'd hoped to find
though.

http://www.wifizonenews.com/publications/page207-595980.asp

http://www.digitalmediadesigner.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=26491

http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/news/article.php/1494761

Hope this helps.

mrr

Matthew R. Rantanen
Director of Technology & Web Services
Tribal Digital Village/SCTCA
mrantanen at sctdv.net
760.742.0582x30

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> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 12:58:23 -0500
> From: Stelios Valavanis <stel at onshore.com>
> Subject: Re: [CWN-Summit] Re: does anybody know about D2D wifi?
> To: National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
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> i have seen it in action at one site in chicago and it does definitely
work
> farther but i don't know how much. i contacted them and they offered to
send
> me demo gear which never materialized. if i ever get my hands on some
radios
> would you want to borrow them?
>
> On Sunday 05 September 2004 04:40 am, David Young wrote:
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 19:21:53 -0500
> > > From: Stelios Valavanis <stel at onShore.com>
> > > Subject: [CWN-Summit] does anybody know about D2D wifi?
> > > To: cwn-summit at chambana.net
> > > Message-ID: <200409021921.53203.stel at onShore.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"
> > >
> > > these guys claim double the distance using their radios. what's the
word
> > > on it?
> > >
> > > www.parkervision.com
> >
> > Stelios,
> >
> > Their claims are not outrageous, but they are vague---"up to one mile",
> > oh c'mon!  The whitepaper on D2D that I read was kooky market-ese.
> > I will wait for an independent comparison of their product with a field
> > of competing products before final judgment, but I strongly suspect that
> > D2D is hype.
> >
> > Dave
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 14:13:36 -0700
> From: Jack Unger <junger at ask-wi.com>
> Subject: [CWN-Summit] Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 2, Issue 5
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 04:40:51 -0500
> > From: David Young <dyoung at pobox.com>
> > Subject: [CWN-Summit] Re: does anybody know about D2D wifi?
> > To: cwn-summit at cuwireless.net
> > Message-ID: <20040905094051.GZ12680 at che.ojctech.com>
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> >
> >>Message: 1
> >>Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 19:21:53 -0500
> >>From: Stelios Valavanis <stel at onShore.com>
> >>Subject: [CWN-Summit] does anybody know about D2D wifi?
> >>To: cwn-summit at chambana.net
> >>Message-ID: <200409021921.53203.stel at onShore.com>
> >>Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"
> >>
> >>these guys claim double the distance using their radios. what's the word
on
> >>it?
> >>
> >>www.parkervision.com
> >
> >
> > Stelios,
> >
> > Their claims are not outrageous, but they are vague---"up to one mile",
> > oh c'mon!  The whitepaper on D2D that I read was kooky market-ese.
> > I will wait for an independent comparison of their product with a field
> > of competing products before final judgment, but I strongly suspect that
> > D2D is hype.
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
> I second Dave's conclusions. After reading the D2D White Paper, I
> concluded that either:
>
> 1. Parkervision is technically confused,
> or
> 2. Parkervision accepts that trying to confuse their potential customers
> is acceptable, or
> 3. Parkervision's public relations firm has only vague clues about how
> D2D works.
>
> "All of the above" is also a possibility.
>
> jack
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 19:55:57 -0500
> From: Stelios Valavanis <stel at onshore.com>
> Subject: Re: [CWN-Summit] Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 2, Issue 5
> To: National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
> E-mail List <cwn-summit at cuwireless.net>
> Message-ID: <200409051955.57204.stel at onshore.com>
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> yeah it figures. atheros has a more reasonable modification that involves
> setting the tolerance threshold for lower signal strength. again it's not
> standard and the benefit is incremental but they make it sound impressive.
>
> On Sunday 05 September 2004 04:13 pm, Jack Unger wrote:
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 04:40:51 -0500
> > > From: David Young <dyoung at pobox.com>
> > > Subject: [CWN-Summit] Re: does anybody know about D2D wifi?
> > > To: cwn-summit at cuwireless.net
> > > Message-ID: <20040905094051.GZ12680 at che.ojctech.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > >
> > >>Message: 1
> > >>Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 19:21:53 -0500
> > >>From: Stelios Valavanis <stel at onShore.com>
> > >>Subject: [CWN-Summit] does anybody know about D2D wifi?
> > >>To: cwn-summit at chambana.net
> > >>Message-ID: <200409021921.53203.stel at onShore.com>
> > >>Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"
> > >>
> > >>these guys claim double the distance using their radios. what's the
word
> > >> on it?
> > >>
> > >>www.parkervision.com
> > >
> > > Stelios,
> > >
> > > Their claims are not outrageous, but they are vague---"up to one
mile",
> > > oh c'mon!  The whitepaper on D2D that I read was kooky market-ese.
> > > I will wait for an independent comparison of their product with a
field
> > > of competing products before final judgment, but I strongly suspect
that
> > > D2D is hype.
> > >
> > > Dave
> >
> > I second Dave's conclusions. After reading the D2D White Paper, I
> > concluded that either:
> >
> > 1. Parkervision is technically confused,
> > or
> > 2. Parkervision accepts that trying to confuse their potential customers
> > is acceptable, or
> > 3. Parkervision's public relations firm has only vague clues about how
> > D2D works.
> >
> > "All of the above" is also a possibility.
> >
> > jack
>
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