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>Today's Topics:
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> 1. Slurpr, Michigan Arrest, and the impact on community wireless
> (Harold Feld)
> 2. Some new photos and a video clip (Nemanja Topovic)
> 3. Re: Slurpr, Michigan Arrest, and the impact on community
> wireless (David Young)
> 4. Re: Slurpr, Michigan Arrest, and the impact on community
> wireless (Harold Feld)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 13:26:54 -0400
>From: Harold Feld <hfeld at mediaaccess.org>
>Subject: [CWN-Summit] Slurpr, Michigan Arrest, and the impact on
> community wireless
>To: National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
> E-mail List <cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net>
>Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20070606132402.03c71480 at mail.his.com>
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>http://www.wetmachine.com/totsf/item/816
>
>Briefly, I argue that the recent arrest in Michigan of a man who used
>an open access point associated with a coffee shop from his car on
>the sidewalk is contrary to general principles of law and bad
>policy. I also discuss how the advent of Slurpr and the increase in
>wifi enabled phones make it critical we get this right -- and soon.
>
>Harold
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 00:08:32 +0200
>From: "Nemanja Topovic" <top at bgwireless.net>
>Subject: [CWN-Summit] Some new photos and a video clip
>To: cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net
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>Hi guys,
>
>I have added some movie clip from BGWireless barbecue in Titel, this year
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pejMbCUgkB8 . This is the only one that I
>have found ... but I know there are many good clips from there and I will
>try to find those and upload them. I want to announce that we are going to
>make some new funny clip for you guys ... (especially for guys from ile
>sans fil ;) ). I also have added some photos of installation of one of our
>links... of course if you are interested in that.
>
>Cya'h,
>--
>Nemanja Topovic
>
>BGWireless Community Network
>Sretena Mladenovica Mike 9
>11090, Belgrade,
>Serbia
>
>Tel: + (381) 64 190 39 41
>
>MSN: topomsuk at hotmail.com
>Skype: nomsuk
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>
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>
>Message: 3
>Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 18:10:16 -0500
>From: David Young <dyoung at pobox.com>
>Subject: Re: [CWN-Summit] Slurpr, Michigan Arrest, and the impact on
> community wireless
>To: National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
> E-mail List <cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net>
>Message-ID: <20070606231016.GF28734 at che.ojctech.com>
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>On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 01:26:54PM -0400, Harold Feld wrote:
>> http://www.wetmachine.com/totsf/item/816
>>
>> Briefly, I argue that the recent arrest in Michigan of a man who used
>> an open access point associated with a coffee shop from his car on
>> the sidewalk is contrary to general principles of law and bad
>> policy. I also discuss how the advent of Slurpr and the increase in
>> wifi enabled phones make it critical we get this right -- and soon.
>
>Harold,
>
>This brings to mind two of my frustrations with WiFi access points.
>
>First, the access controls are not as fine-grained as they could be.
>I would be pleased to provide Internet access to my neighbors if I could
>prioritize my own use---I am, after all, the one who pays for it---and
>protect my LAN. I have heard that there is a Belkin wireless router that
>provides two virtual wireless networks. The first network has privacy and
>authentication; it lets the owner access his home LAN and the Internet.
>The second network is public. It lets the neighbors access to the
>Internet, only. I wish that the feature was more widespread.
>
>Second, I believe that even if I do not want to share my LAN or
>my Internet connection, I should be able to share the AP's built-in
>"radio relay" capability with the neighbors. (Why, maybe my AP should
>be required to offer that service, if it transmits over a certain power
>level?) It will be a boon for community wireless if all of the neighbor's
>APs are relays, because it becomes possible to extend the reach of any
>station on a community mesh using a technique such as Matt Westervelt's
>"OPN".
>
>Dave
>
>--
>David Young OJC Technologies
>dyoung at ojctech.com Urbana, IL * (217) 278-3933 ext 24
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 4
>Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:27:41 -0400
>From: Harold Feld <hfeld at mediaaccess.org>
>Subject: Re: [CWN-Summit] Slurpr, Michigan Arrest, and the impact on
> community wireless
>To: National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
> E-mail List <cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net>, National Summit on
> Community Wireless Networking Participant E-mail List
> <cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net>
>Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20070607112711.03df6c20 at mail.his.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
>These are good points. Are there products or software available that
>handle these issues?
>
>At 07:10 PM 6/6/2007, David Young wrote:
>>On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 01:26:54PM -0400, Harold Feld wrote:
>> > http://www.wetmachine.com/totsf/item/816
>> >
>> > Briefly, I argue that the recent arrest in Michigan of a man who used
>> > an open access point associated with a coffee shop from his car on
>> > the sidewalk is contrary to general principles of law and bad
>> > policy. I also discuss how the advent of Slurpr and the increase in
>> > wifi enabled phones make it critical we get this right -- and soon.
>>
>>Harold,
>>
>>This brings to mind two of my frustrations with WiFi access points.
>>
>>First, the access controls are not as fine-grained as they could be.
>>I would be pleased to provide Internet access to my neighbors if I could
>>prioritize my own use---I am, after all, the one who pays for it---and
>>protect my LAN. I have heard that there is a Belkin wireless router that
>>provides two virtual wireless networks. The first network has privacy and
>>authentication; it lets the owner access his home LAN and the Internet.
>>The second network is public. It lets the neighbors access to the
>>Internet, only. I wish that the feature was more widespread.
>>
>>Second, I believe that even if I do not want to share my LAN or
>>my Internet connection, I should be able to share the AP's built-in
>>"radio relay" capability with the neighbors. (Why, maybe my AP should
>>be required to offer that service, if it transmits over a certain power
>>level?) It will be a boon for community wireless if all of the neighbor's
>>APs are relays, because it becomes possible to extend the reach of any
>>station on a community mesh using a technique such as Matt Westervelt's
>>"OPN".
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>--
>>David Young OJC Technologies
>>dyoung at ojctech.com Urbana, IL * (217) 278-3933 ext 24
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