[CWN-Summit] Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 8
Stelios Valavanis
stel at onshore.com
Sun Jun 17 21:55:40 CDT 2007
i wouldn't mind hearing about any good antenna sources other than
hyperlinktech.net. we've got a project going on here (chicago) for a
neighborhood where we're using cuwin with dual-radio (802.11 a backhaul mesh
and 802.11g wifi to end users). we're about to begin testing a bunch of
antennas we got from hyperlink. of course we want to get the lowest density
of radios possible and since the geography is along a street we're leaning
towards sector or patch antennas perhaps with 2 per radio on the wifi side
(probably all omnis on the mesh side). any tips would be appreciated.
On Saturday 16 June 2007 14:48:29 Matt Westervelt wrote:
> Bob,
>
> I would suggest using a 2 radio box, with one radio as client to your
> network, and the other passively listening with kismet. This would give
> you full pcap dumps, and you would be able to do channel switching, etc.
>
>
> How inexpensive it gets really depends on how much work you're willing
> to put into it. There isn't anything that I've seen that does
> *exactly* what you want it to do, but you can probably find a canned
> commercial solution that does 50-80%. I wouldn't expect it to be cheap
> though.
>
> Another question I'd ask right away is how 'in the field' these need to
> be. Are you talking mobile (battery powered) or placed in a fixed
> location and always on (wired in).
>
> I can probably help you spec something out.
>
> -matt
>
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> > 1. Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 7 (Bob Dixon)
> > 2. Re: Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 7 (Wolfgang Nagele)
> > 3. Re: Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 7 (Ramon Roca)
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> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:16:27 -0400
> > From: Bob Dixon <dixon.8 at osu.edu>
> > Subject: [CWN-Summit] Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 7
> > To: cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net
> > Message-ID: <p06240802c2988c6fb239@[140.254.49.232]>
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> > I guess I need to explain our need in more detail. We can already
> > monitor the devices that have remote monitoring available. We need
> > remote devices that can be placed in the field to listen to and
> > monitor the wireless network signal strength, connectivity etc, and
> > report back to us. These remote devices are themselves using the
> > wireless network.
> >
> > Bob
> >
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> >> Today's Topics:
> >>
> >> 1. Re: Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks (Wolfgang Nagele)
> >> 2. Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6 (Bob Dixon)
> >> 3. videos from the recent summit (Phil Shapiro)
> >> 4. Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6 (Satish Jha)
> >> 5. Re: Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6 (Stelios Valavanis)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:08:54 +0200
> >> From: "Wolfgang Nagele" <mail at wnagele.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [CWN-Summit] Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks
> >> To: "National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
> >> E-mail List" <cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net>
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <10c1e1e40706131008i920d8f0ub319f408ad1b7f5 at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >>
> >> If they have SNMP output you could use Cacti quite easily:
> >> http://cacti.net/ For monitoring with altering, etc. you should have a
> >> look at Nagios (http://www.nagios.org/).
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Wolfgang
> >>
> >> 2007/6/13, Bob Dixon <dixon.8 at osu.edu>:
> >>> We would like to monitor the health of several community wireless
> >>> networks located in rural areas.
> >>> They are connected to the Internet via satellite links which we
> >>> provide. We already monitor things like routers etc that have remote
> >>> monitoring capabilities. But we are finding that is not enough. We
> >>> need to know if the wireless signal strength is normal at various
> >>> points, if traffic is getting thru etc.
> >>> Are there easy and inexpensive ways to do this?
> >>>
> >>> Bob
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Robert S. Dixon, Ph D, PE
> >>> Chief Research Engineer
> >>> Ohio Academic Resources Network (OARNet)
> >>> and
> >>> Ohio State University, Office of the CIO
> >>>
> >>> Office Telephone: 614-292-1638
> >>> Fax: 614-292-7081
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> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:11:49 -0400
> >> From: Bob Dixon <dixon.8 at osu.edu>
> >> Subject: [CWN-Summit] Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6
> >> To: cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net
> >> Message-ID: <p06240812c295d58371af@[140.254.49.232]>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
> >>
> >> We use Dlink and Teletronics access points.
> >> They are backhauled via a satellite link to the Internet.
> >>
> >> Bob
> >>
> >>> 1. Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks (Bob Dixon)
> >>> 2. Re: Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks (Stelios Valavanis)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 1
> >>> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:12:13 -0400
> >>> From: Bob Dixon <dixon.8 at osu.edu>
> >>> Subject: [CWN-Summit] Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks
> >>> To: cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net
> >>> Message-ID: <p06240805c295b8e8bd72@[140.254.49.232]>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
> >>>
> >>> We would like to monitor the health of several community wireless
> >>> networks located in rural areas.
> >>> They are connected to the Internet via satellite links which we
> >>> provide. We already monitor things like routers etc that have remote
> >>> monitoring capabilities. But we are finding that is not enough. We
> >>>
> >> >need to know if the wireless signal strength is normal at various
> >>>
> >>> points, if traffic is getting thru etc.
> >>> Are there easy and inexpensive ways to do this?
> >>>
> >>> Bob
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Message: 2
> >>> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:43:08 -0500
> >>> From: Stelios Valavanis <stel at onshore.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [CWN-Summit] Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks
> >>> To: National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
> >>> E-mail List <cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net>
> >>> Message-ID: <200706131143.08554.stel at onshore.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>>
> >>> what APs are you using? how are they backhauled?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________
> >>> stel valavanis http://www.onshore.com/
> >>
> >> --
> >> Robert S. Dixon, Ph D, PE
> >> Chief Research Engineer
> >> Ohio Academic Resources Network (OARNet)
> >> and
> >> Ohio State University, Office of the CIO
> >>
> >> Office Telephone: 614-292-1638
> >> Fax: 614-292-7081
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:42:04 -0400
> >> From: Phil Shapiro <pshapiro at his.com>
> >> Subject: [CWN-Summit] videos from the recent summit
> >> To: cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net
> >> Message-ID: <1181760124.46703a7cd9da5 at webmail2.his.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >>
> >> hi everyone,
> >>
> >> here are some of the short video interviews from the recent summit.
> >>
> >> Xavier Leonard, Heads on Fire, San Diego, California
> >> http://youtube.com/watch?v=kBz6-kfUbBQ
> >>
> >> Bogdan Tancic, Serbia Wireless, Belgrade, Serbia
> >> http://youtube.com/watch?v=rCVtPcFp14E
> >>
> >> Dillip Pattanaik, IRMA-India, Orissa State Volunteers and Social Workers
> >> Ass'n http://youtube.com/watch?v=1gb_Vmg45mE
> >>
> >>
> >> i've sent a bunch more short interviews over to marco figueiredo
> >> for him to put on the Center for Community Informatics (CCI) web site.
> >> these videos are
> >> in h.264 format, so they'll play on any operating system.
> >>
> >> the CCI web site is at http://cci.cs.loyola.edu/
> >>
> >> you can subscribe to the feed for this web site to stay in the
> >> loop about new items added to the CCI blog.
> >>
> >> thanks to everyone who participated in the video interviews.
> >> you're all doing great things.
> >>
> >> phil shapiro
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Phil Shapiro pshapiro at his.com
> >> http://www.his.com/pshapiro/briefbio.html
> >> http://philsrssfeed.blogspot.com
> >> http://www.his.com/pshapiro/stories.menu.html
> >>
> >> "Wisdom starts with wonder." - Socrates
> >> "Learning happens through gentleness."
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 4
> >> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:46:44 -0400
> >> From: "Satish Jha" <sjha at vsnl.com>
> >> Subject: [CWN-Summit] Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6
> >> To: cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <a7da96740706131346j1013c34fvca67872237258104 at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>
> >> I am putting together a panel to explore how the wireless technologies
> >> will shape the markets in India and the US in the next 5 to 10 years and
> >> explore opportunities in both market and social space. I shall greatly
> >> appreciate your thoughts and recommendations for people who should be
> >> interested in the panel / would like to join the panel. The conference
> >> is going to be held on Sept 5/6 in Washington DC.
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/13/07, cwn-summit-request at lists.cuwireless.net <
> >>
> >> cwn-summit-request at lists.cuwireless.net> wrote:
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Today's Topics:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks (Bob Dixon)
> >>> 2. Re: Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks (Stelios Valavanis)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 1
> >>> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:12:13 -0400
> >>> From: Bob Dixon <dixon.8 at osu.edu>
> >>> Subject: [CWN-Summit] Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks
> >>>
> >> > To: cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net
> >>>
> >>> Message-ID: <p06240805c295b8e8bd72@[140.254.49.232]>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
> >>>
> >>> We would like to monitor the health of several community wireless
> >>> networks located in rural areas.
> >>> They are connected to the Internet via satellite links which we
> >>> provide. We already monitor things like routers etc that have remote
> >>> monitoring capabilities. But we are finding that is not enough. We
> >>> need to know if the wireless signal strength is normal at various
> >>> points, if traffic is getting thru etc.
> >>> Are there easy and inexpensive ways to do this?
> >>>
> >>> Bob
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Robert S. Dixon, Ph D, PE
> >>> Chief Research Engineer
> >>> Ohio Academic Resources Network (OARNet)
> >>> and
> >>> Ohio State University, Office of the CIO
> >>>
> >>> Office Telephone: 614-292-1638
> >>> Fax: 614-292-7081
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 2
> >>> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:43:08 -0500
> >>> From: Stelios Valavanis <stel at onshore.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [CWN-Summit] Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks
> >>> To: National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
> >>> E-mail List <cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net>
> >>> Message-ID: <200706131143.08554.stel at onshore.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>>
> >>> what APs are you using? how are they backhauled?
> >>>
> >>> On Wednesday 13 June 2007 10:12:13 Bob Dixon wrote:
> >>> > We would like to monitor the health of several community wireless
> >>> > networks located in rural areas.
> >>> > They are connected to the Internet via satellite links which we
> >>> > provide. We already monitor things like routers etc that have
> >>> > remote monitoring capabilities. But we are finding that is not
> >>> > enough. We need to know if the wireless signal strength is normal at
> >>> > various points, if traffic is getting thru etc.
> >>> > Are there easy and inexpensive ways to do this?
> >>> >
> >>> > Bob
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> _______________________________________
> >>> stel valavanis http://www.onshore.com/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>> End of CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6
> >>> *****************************************
> >>
> >> --
> >> _______________________
> >> Satish Jha
> >> Co-Chair, World IT Forum (WITFOR)
> >> www.ehealth-care.net
> >> www.witfor.org
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> >> www.digital-partners.org
> >> T: +1 301-841-7422
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> >> Message: 5
> >> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:42:33 -0500
> >> From: Stelios Valavanis <stel at onshore.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [CWN-Summit] Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6
> >> To: National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
> >> E-mail List <cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net>
> >> Message-ID: <200706131642.33866.stel at onshore.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>
> >> i mean how to the access points connect to the router before going up
> >> the satellite link?
> >>
> >> On Wednesday 13 June 2007 12:11:49 Bob Dixon wrote:
> >>> We use Dlink and Teletronics access points.
> >>> They are backhauled via a satellite link to the Internet.
> >>>
> >>> Bob
> >>>
> >>> > 1. Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks (Bob Dixon)
> >>> > 2. Re: Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks (Stelios Valavanis)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> >-
> >>> >
> >>> >Message: 1
> >>> >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:12:13 -0400
> >>> >From: Bob Dixon <dixon.8 at osu.edu>
> >>> >Subject: [CWN-Summit] Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks
> >>> >To: cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net
> >>> >Message-ID: <p06240805c295b8e8bd72@[140.254.49.232]>
> >>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
> >>> >
> >>> >We would like to monitor the health of several community wireless
> >>> >networks located in rural areas.
> >>> >They are connected to the Internet via satellite links which we
> >>> >
> >> > >provide. We already monitor things like routers etc that have
> >> > > remote
> >>> >
> >>> >monitoring capabilities. But we are finding that is not enough. We
> >>> >need to know if the wireless signal strength is normal at various
> >>> >points, if traffic is getting thru etc.
> >>> >Are there easy and inexpensive ways to do this?
> >>> >
> >>> >Bob
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >Message: 2
> >>> >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:43:08 -0500
> >>> >From: Stelios Valavanis <stel at onshore.com>
> >>> >Subject: Re: [CWN-Summit] Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks
> >>> >To: National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
> >>> > E-mail List <cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net>
> >>> >Message-ID: <200706131143.08554.stel at onshore.com>
> >>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>> >
> >>> >what APs are you using? how are they backhauled?
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >_______________________________________
> >>> >stel valavanis http://www.onshore.com/
> >>
> >> --
> >> _______________________________________
> >> stel valavanis http://www.onshore.com/
> >>
> >>
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