[CWN-Summit] Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 8
Matt Westervelt
mattw at seattlewireless.net
Sun Jun 17 22:14:20 CDT 2007
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Stelios Valavanis wrote:
> i wouldn't mind hearing about any good antenna sources other than
> hyperlinktech.net. we've got a project going on here (chicago) for a
> neighborhood where we're using cuwin with dual-radio (802.11 a backhaul mesh
> and 802.11g wifi to end users). we're about to begin testing a bunch of
> antennas we got from hyperlink. of course we want to get the lowest density
> of radios possible and since the geography is along a street we're leaning
> towards sector or patch antennas perhaps with 2 per radio on the wifi side
> (probably all omnis on the mesh side). any tips would be appreciated.
>
> On Saturday 16 June 2007 14:48:29 Matt Westervelt wrote:
>> Bob,
>>
>> I would suggest using a 2 radio box, with one radio as client to your
>> network, and the other passively listening with kismet. This would give
>> you full pcap dumps, and you would be able to do channel switching, etc.
>>
>>
>> How inexpensive it gets really depends on how much work you're willing
>> to put into it. There isn't anything that I've seen that does
>> *exactly* what you want it to do, but you can probably find a canned
>> commercial solution that does 50-80%. I wouldn't expect it to be cheap
>> though.
>>
>> Another question I'd ask right away is how 'in the field' these need to
>> be. Are you talking mobile (battery powered) or placed in a fixed
>> location and always on (wired in).
>>
>> I can probably help you spec something out.
>>
>> -matt
>>
>> cwn-summit-request at lists.cuwireless.net wrote:
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>>> 1. Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 7 (Bob Dixon)
>>> 2. Re: Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 7 (Wolfgang Nagele)
>>> 3. Re: Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 7 (Ramon Roca)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:16:27 -0400
>>> From: Bob Dixon <dixon.8 at osu.edu>
>>> Subject: [CWN-Summit] Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 7
>>> To: cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net
>>> Message-ID: <p06240802c2988c6fb239@[140.254.49.232]>
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>>> I guess I need to explain our need in more detail. We can already
>>> monitor the devices that have remote monitoring available. We need
>>> remote devices that can be placed in the field to listen to and
>>> monitor the wireless network signal strength, connectivity etc, and
>>> report back to us. These remote devices are themselves using the
>>> wireless network.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
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>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Re: Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks (Wolfgang Nagele)
>>>> 2. Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6 (Bob Dixon)
>>>> 3. videos from the recent summit (Phil Shapiro)
>>>> 4. Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6 (Satish Jha)
>>>> 5. Re: Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6 (Stelios Valavanis)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:08:54 +0200
>>>> From: "Wolfgang Nagele" <mail at wnagele.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [CWN-Summit] Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks
>>>> To: "National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
>>>> E-mail List" <cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net>
>>>> Message-ID:
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>>>>
>>>> If they have SNMP output you could use Cacti quite easily:
>>>> http://cacti.net/ For monitoring with altering, etc. you should have a
>>>> look at Nagios (http://www.nagios.org/).
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Wolfgang
>>>>
>>>> 2007/6/13, Bob Dixon <dixon.8 at osu.edu>:
>>>>> We would like to monitor the health of several community wireless
>>>>> networks located in rural areas.
>>>>> They are connected to the Internet via satellite links which we
>>>>> provide. We already monitor things like routers etc that have remote
>>>>> monitoring capabilities. But we are finding that is not enough. We
>>>>> need to know if the wireless signal strength is normal at various
>>>>> points, if traffic is getting thru etc.
>>>>> Are there easy and inexpensive ways to do this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Robert S. Dixon, Ph D, PE
>>>>> Chief Research Engineer
>>>>> Ohio Academic Resources Network (OARNet)
>>>>> and
>>>>> Ohio State University, Office of the CIO
>>>>>
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>>>>> Fax: 614-292-7081
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>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:11:49 -0400
>>>> From: Bob Dixon <dixon.8 at osu.edu>
>>>> Subject: [CWN-Summit] Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6
>>>> To: cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net
>>>> Message-ID: <p06240812c295d58371af@[140.254.49.232]>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
>>>>
>>>> We use Dlink and Teletronics access points.
>>>> They are backhauled via a satellite link to the Internet.
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>>> 1. Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks (Bob Dixon)
>>>>> 2. Re: Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks (Stelios Valavanis)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:12:13 -0400
>>>>> From: Bob Dixon <dixon.8 at osu.edu>
>>>>> Subject: [CWN-Summit] Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks
>>>>> To: cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net
>>>>> Message-ID: <p06240805c295b8e8bd72@[140.254.49.232]>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
>>>>>
>>>>> We would like to monitor the health of several community wireless
>>>>> networks located in rural areas.
>>>>> They are connected to the Internet via satellite links which we
>>>>> provide. We already monitor things like routers etc that have remote
>>>>> monitoring capabilities. But we are finding that is not enough. We
>>>>>
>>>> >need to know if the wireless signal strength is normal at various
>>>>> points, if traffic is getting thru etc.
>>>>> Are there easy and inexpensive ways to do this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:43:08 -0500
>>>>> From: Stelios Valavanis <stel at onshore.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CWN-Summit] Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks
>>>>> To: National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
>>>>> E-mail List <cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net>
>>>>> Message-ID: <200706131143.08554.stel at onshore.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>
>>>>> what APs are you using? how are they backhauled?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________
>>>>> stel valavanis http://www.onshore.com/
>>>> --
>>>> Robert S. Dixon, Ph D, PE
>>>> Chief Research Engineer
>>>> Ohio Academic Resources Network (OARNet)
>>>> and
>>>> Ohio State University, Office of the CIO
>>>>
>>>> Office Telephone: 614-292-1638
>>>> Fax: 614-292-7081
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:42:04 -0400
>>>> From: Phil Shapiro <pshapiro at his.com>
>>>> Subject: [CWN-Summit] videos from the recent summit
>>>> To: cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net
>>>> Message-ID: <1181760124.46703a7cd9da5 at webmail2.his.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>
>>>> hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> here are some of the short video interviews from the recent summit.
>>>>
>>>> Xavier Leonard, Heads on Fire, San Diego, California
>>>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=kBz6-kfUbBQ
>>>>
>>>> Bogdan Tancic, Serbia Wireless, Belgrade, Serbia
>>>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=rCVtPcFp14E
>>>>
>>>> Dillip Pattanaik, IRMA-India, Orissa State Volunteers and Social Workers
>>>> Ass'n http://youtube.com/watch?v=1gb_Vmg45mE
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> i've sent a bunch more short interviews over to marco figueiredo
>>>> for him to put on the Center for Community Informatics (CCI) web site.
>>>> these videos are
>>>> in h.264 format, so they'll play on any operating system.
>>>>
>>>> the CCI web site is at http://cci.cs.loyola.edu/
>>>>
>>>> you can subscribe to the feed for this web site to stay in the
>>>> loop about new items added to the CCI blog.
>>>>
>>>> thanks to everyone who participated in the video interviews.
>>>> you're all doing great things.
>>>>
>>>> phil shapiro
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Phil Shapiro pshapiro at his.com
>>>> http://www.his.com/pshapiro/briefbio.html
>>>> http://philsrssfeed.blogspot.com
>>>> http://www.his.com/pshapiro/stories.menu.html
>>>>
>>>> "Wisdom starts with wonder." - Socrates
>>>> "Learning happens through gentleness."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 4
>>>> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:46:44 -0400
>>>> From: "Satish Jha" <sjha at vsnl.com>
>>>> Subject: [CWN-Summit] Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6
>>>> To: cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <a7da96740706131346j1013c34fvca67872237258104 at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>
>>>> I am putting together a panel to explore how the wireless technologies
>>>> will shape the markets in India and the US in the next 5 to 10 years and
>>>> explore opportunities in both market and social space. I shall greatly
>>>> appreciate your thoughts and recommendations for people who should be
>>>> interested in the panel / would like to join the panel. The conference
>>>> is going to be held on Sept 5/6 in Washington DC.
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/13/07, cwn-summit-request at lists.cuwireless.net <
>>>>
>>>> cwn-summit-request at lists.cuwireless.net> wrote:
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>>>>>
>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks (Bob Dixon)
>>>>> 2. Re: Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks (Stelios Valavanis)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:12:13 -0400
>>>>> From: Bob Dixon <dixon.8 at osu.edu>
>>>>> Subject: [CWN-Summit] Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks
>>>>>
>>>> > To: cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net
>>>>> Message-ID: <p06240805c295b8e8bd72@[140.254.49.232]>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
>>>>>
>>>>> We would like to monitor the health of several community wireless
>>>>> networks located in rural areas.
>>>>> They are connected to the Internet via satellite links which we
>>>>> provide. We already monitor things like routers etc that have remote
>>>>> monitoring capabilities. But we are finding that is not enough. We
>>>>> need to know if the wireless signal strength is normal at various
>>>>> points, if traffic is getting thru etc.
>>>>> Are there easy and inexpensive ways to do this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Robert S. Dixon, Ph D, PE
>>>>> Chief Research Engineer
>>>>> Ohio Academic Resources Network (OARNet)
>>>>> and
>>>>> Ohio State University, Office of the CIO
>>>>>
>>>>> Office Telephone: 614-292-1638
>>>>> Fax: 614-292-7081
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:43:08 -0500
>>>>> From: Stelios Valavanis <stel at onshore.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CWN-Summit] Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks
>>>>> To: National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
>>>>> E-mail List <cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net>
>>>>> Message-ID: <200706131143.08554.stel at onshore.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>
>>>>> what APs are you using? how are they backhauled?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday 13 June 2007 10:12:13 Bob Dixon wrote:
>>>>> > We would like to monitor the health of several community wireless
>>>>> > networks located in rural areas.
>>>>> > They are connected to the Internet via satellite links which we
>>>>> > provide. We already monitor things like routers etc that have
>>>>> > remote monitoring capabilities. But we are finding that is not
>>>>> > enough. We need to know if the wireless signal strength is normal at
>>>>> > various points, if traffic is getting thru etc.
>>>>> > Are there easy and inexpensive ways to do this?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Bob
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> _______________________________________
>>>>> stel valavanis http://www.onshore.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>> End of CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6
>>>>> *****************************************
>>>> --
>>>> _______________________
>>>> Satish Jha
>>>> Co-Chair, World IT Forum (WITFOR)
>>>> www.ehealth-care.net
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>>>> Message: 5
>>>> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:42:33 -0500
>>>> From: Stelios Valavanis <stel at onshore.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [CWN-Summit] Re: CWN-Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6
>>>> To: National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
>>>> E-mail List <cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net>
>>>> Message-ID: <200706131642.33866.stel at onshore.com>
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>>>>
>>>> i mean how to the access points connect to the router before going up
>>>> the satellite link?
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday 13 June 2007 12:11:49 Bob Dixon wrote:
>>>>> We use Dlink and Teletronics access points.
>>>>> They are backhauled via a satellite link to the Internet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>> > 1. Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks (Bob Dixon)
>>>>> > 2. Re: Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks (Stelios Valavanis)
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> >-
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Message: 1
>>>>> >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:12:13 -0400
>>>>> >From: Bob Dixon <dixon.8 at osu.edu>
>>>>> >Subject: [CWN-Summit] Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks
>>>>> >To: cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net
>>>>> >Message-ID: <p06240805c295b8e8bd72@[140.254.49.232]>
>>>>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
>>>>> >
>>>>> >We would like to monitor the health of several community wireless
>>>>> >networks located in rural areas.
>>>>> >They are connected to the Internet via satellite links which we
>>>>> >
>>>> > >provide. We already monitor things like routers etc that have
>>>> > > remote
>>>>> >
>>>>> >monitoring capabilities. But we are finding that is not enough. We
>>>>> >need to know if the wireless signal strength is normal at various
>>>>> >points, if traffic is getting thru etc.
>>>>> >Are there easy and inexpensive ways to do this?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Bob
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Message: 2
>>>>> >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:43:08 -0500
>>>>> >From: Stelios Valavanis <stel at onshore.com>
>>>>> >Subject: Re: [CWN-Summit] Remote Monitoring of Wireless Networks
>>>>> >To: National Summit on Community Wireless Networking Participant
>>>>> > E-mail List <cwn-summit at lists.cuwireless.net>
>>>>> >Message-ID: <200706131143.08554.stel at onshore.com>
>>>>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>> >
>>>>> >what APs are you using? how are they backhauled?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >_______________________________________
>>>>> >stel valavanis http://www.onshore.com/
>>>> --
>>>> _______________________________________
>>>> stel valavanis http://www.onshore.com/
>>>>
>>>>
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