[Imc-newsroom] Re: WORT visit
Al Kagan
akagan at uiuc.edu
Wed Jan 30 09:02:24 CST 2002
Thanks Paul. You are right and we will follow-up.
At 12:58 AM -0600 1/30/02, Paul Riismandel wrote:
>You know, I have some practical concerns about the apparent planning
>of this endeavor.
>
>While I think it's good and necessary to invite all of WEFT's
>volunteers, if there is going to be productive discussion about the
>realities of things--such as programming--then wouldn't it be a good
>idea to make specific invitations to those people at WEFT who have
>responsibilities in the specific areas of concern?
>
>If there's a place where communication broke down, it would appear
>to be there. If you're talking about the programming at WEFT, then
>I'd think maybe at least you'd want to extend a formal invitation to
>the WEFT Programming Committee. It would probably be a good idea to
>extend that invitation to the WEFT Board of Directors and Station
>Manager, and perhaps other folks who've played a significant role
>there over the years. These are the people who have been chosen to
>take responsibility for things happening at WEFT or who have made
>things happen, so it would only seem logical that if one of the
>goals of this event is to spark action that you would want some of
>these folks in on it. Minimally, you'd want to know what situations
>and constraints you're dealing with. Ideally, you'd want their
>cooperation.
>
>If you want to get the computers fixed or changed at the IMC you go
>to the Tech group directly, right? If some other organization
>wanted to improve relations with the IMC, I'd sure as hell hope they
>invited those of us who've put in a hell of a lot of sweat equity
>into the place.
>
>It's simply just impractical to expect word of mouth to effectively
>bridge groups and organizations, especially if you have any goal in
>mind. Was WORT invited by word of mouth? Or did somebody have to
>call Norm directly? Just because a few WEFTies out of 90 or so
>volunteers were aware of the event doesn't mean that it's been
>effectively communicated to the organization. Somebody has to take
>responsibility for making those calls.
>
>For what it's worth, I'm a pretty active member of the IMC and the
>IMC steering group, and the whole mission and agenda for this visit
>has never been particularly clear to me (and I have asked).
>Somehow, I don't think that I'm alone in this. But I haven't
>attended any AWARE meetings, where I understand all the planning has
>gone on. So I'd like to point out that not all the IMC goes to
>AWARE meetings, either, and so probably could use to be clued in,
>too.
>
>
>--Paul
>
>At 01:59 PM 1/29/2002 -0600, Al Kagan wrote:
>>Pauline,
>>
>>Many thanks for working on this. You have it right. However, WEFT
>>should have officially been asked to co-sponsor a long time ago.
>>So I think we now have to be a bit careful in asking them to come
>>on board. The workshop will hopefully help the IMC anyway, but we
>>would like it to help WEFT too. There is an obvious danger of
>>putting them off if we come on too strong at this point. I am not
>>on the WEFT listserv. It would be much better if someone who is
>>involved with WEFT programing to send out the message. The
>>message should say that we invite their participation, rather than
>>just show up.
>>
>>At 2:45 PM -0500 1/29/02, Pauline Bartolone wrote:
>>>ok. So this is what I am going to tell Mick tomorrow afternoon,
>>>correct me if I am wrong:
>>>
>>>The IMC is doing all the organizing of the the WORT visit, and we
>>>require no financial contribution from WEFT. The IMC is organizing
>>>a discussion about IMC/WEFT collaboration regarding public affairs
>>>programming that will take place during the afternoon, during
>>>which we request WEFTie presence. Co-sponsorship from WEFT only
>>>means that WEFTies will be present.
>>>
>>>Can I also tell mick that we will send out an email to the WEFTa
>>>list requesting WEFT people to show up for the WORT visit? Al will
>>>you do this? Will you also facilitate the discussion about
>>>improving public affairs production?
>>>
>>>Anything I left out?
>>>
>>>Pauline
>>>
>>>>From: Al Kagan <akagan at uiuc.edu>
>>>>To: "Pauline Bartolone" <paulinebartolone at hotmail.com>,
>>>>imc-newsroom at lists.groogroo.com
>>>>CC: enslin at prairienet.org
>>>>Subject: [Imc-newsroom] Re: WORT visit
>>>>Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:42:50 -0600
>>>>
>>>>This is perplexing. I know Mark raised this with at least some folks
>>>>at WEFT. It is a shame he is out of town. Regarding co-sponsorship,
>>>>there is no financial commitment involved. The IMC will deal with
>>>>all the expenses. The hope was that we could all have a fruitful
>>>>discussion on how to do more and better news and public affairs. As
>>>>far as I know there are no specific proposals on how to accomplish
>>>>better collaboration. That would have to be discussed at the
>>>>workshop or later on.
>>>>
>>>>Some of us have been discussing these ideas publicly for several
>>>>months beginning at the first AWARE teach-in with Bob McChesney, and
>>>>then at AWARE events and meetings. Some WEFT people come to these
>>>>meetings. I have personally discussed this with Carl Estabrook, Paul
>>>>Mueth, Peter Miller, Danielle, and Mark Enslin. I don't know where
>>>>the communications breakdown happened.
>>>>
>>>>Anyway, what we need to do now is see if people from WEFT want to
>>>>participate and/or co-sponsor. Mick needs a special invitation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>At 6:32 PM -0500 1/28/02, Pauline Bartolone wrote:
>>>>>Hey folks.
>>>>>
>>>>>I talked to Mick Wolf about the WORT visit on the 9th, and there is
>>>>>confusion/miscommunication about what it means for WEFT to be a
>>>>>"co-sponsor" of the WORT event. According to him, noone from WEFT
>>>>>was notified about sponsorship or other participation.
>>>>>
>>>>>What kind of participation does the IMC request of WEFT to be
>>>>>co-sponsor? What else do we request from them besides reading a PSA
>>>>>on the air?
>>>>>
>>>>>On the flyer for the event that Al Kagan made, it mentions using the
>>>>>event to strengthen collaboration between WEFT and the IMC. How
>>>>>exactly is this going to happen? Is there going to be a panel of
>>>>>reps from each organization? Or is there going to be some sort of
>>>>>discussion about collaboration after the WORT workshops?
>>>>>
>>>>>I told Mick I'd tell him the scoop during the WEFT Courier on Wednesday.
>>>>>
>>>>>Can anyone enlighten me?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks, Pauline
>>>>>
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>>>>--
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Al Kagan
>>>>African Studies Bibliographer and Professor of Library Administration
>>>>Africana Unit, Room 328
>>>>University of Illinois Library
>>>>1408 W. Gregory Drive
>>>>Urbana, IL 61801, USA
>>>>
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>>>>fax. 217-333-2214
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>>
>>
>>Al Kagan
>>African Studies Bibliographer and Professor of Library Administration
>>Africana Unit, Room 328
>>University of Illinois Library
>>1408 W. Gregory Drive
>>Urbana, IL 61801, USA
>>
>>tel. 217-333-6519
>>fax. 217-333-2214
>>e-mail. akagan at uiuc.edu
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Africana Unit, Room 328
University of Illinois Library
1408 W. Gregory Drive
Urbana, IL 61801, USA
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fax. 217-333-2214
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