Fwd: [IMC-Tech] IMC hosting

Paul Riismandel listgeek at mediageek.org
Tue Oct 16 15:06:36 CDT 2001


Some grist for the mill from the global imc tech list:


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>From: "Scott Lewis" <scott at balticave.com>
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>Subject: [IMC-Tech] IMC hosting
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>Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:28:05 -0600
>
>hi everyone,
>
>On 9 Oct 2001, at 22:22, Lee Azzarello wrote:
> > I'm looking into hosting the NYC site here in New York. The people
> > I'm working with need some statistics for bandwidth before they can
> > even consider it.
>
>i'm new to IMC and this list. i'm helping guilherme out with the new
>mexico IMC.
>
>in the few weeks since i've been following this list, there have been
>several issues related to hosting an IMC. it seems that there are
>three options for hosting an IMC:
>
>-use the central IMC server. reports indicate that this is overloaded
>and frequently slow.
>
>-beg, borrow or steal space on someone else's server. this may or
>may not work well and means that everyone has to solve the same
>problem over and over.
>
>-purchase space on a commercial host. this (ideally) gives you
>high quality dependable service, but means we're supporting a
>privately owned business instead of our communities.
>
>is anyone talking about a cooperatively owned webhost that could
>host an IMC? if not, i'd like to propose it.
>
>i envision a cooperative with a couple of servers at a colocated
>network center with good bandwidth. the coop members share the
>infrastructure costs and reap the benefits of a coop: greater control,
>participation, etc.
>
>the issue, of course, is money. it may be that many IMCs have
>space on servers that has been donated. if so, and they are happy
>with the service, then that works. but ultimately i think we need a
>system that can pay for itself and can demand dependability and
>responsiveness. its hard to do this when people are donating to
>you.
>
>the cost of running a couple of colocated servers is several hundred
>dollars per month. two moderately powered servers could host
>quite a few IMCs. i figure the market value of hosting an IMC is
>around $20-80/month, depending on bandwidth.
>
>the numbers add up. it just means that the local IMCs have to
>come up with some money to pay for hosting. personally i want to
>see the new mexico IMC become a professional looking site. i
>want to always be up and be responsive. if it means we pay a little,
>that's fine. it that money goes to a coop which supports other
>IMCs, even better.
>
>other ways that a coop could help are:
>
>-waive fees for new IMCs until they get their feet on the ground.
>
>-provide a preinstalled and maintained version of the IMC code, so
>that new locals can get up and running easily.
>
>a coop would allow locals to share infrastructure and administrative
>costs. if anyone is interested or knows of people working on similar
>projects, please let me know.
>
>thanks,
>
>-scott
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