[Imc-tech] Re: IMC, & a void...

Tue Jan 21 12:00:01 CST 2003

another possibility that i'm working on would be to have OJC donate the
PHP code for the online calendar we designed (probably in return for
acknowledgement on the calendar page).  this would give us the option of
going with a professionally designed, highly customizable, rock-solidly
programmed calendar...  you can see the front end (which was just put
on-line and doesn't have any events in it yet) as designed for
smile-healthy at:  www.smilehealthy.org -- just click on events...

what do folks think?

--sascha

On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Paul Riismandel wrote:

> Well, right now the PR Committee at WEFT is spearheading the
> entertainment calendar effort. It will take some time, and everyone on
> that committee is on board for it being a WEFT/IMC shared venture.
>
> The next steps are pretty much all at WEFT PR (which I"m a member of)
> and the public i.  As I mentioned before, a back end may be supplied to
> WEFT as a public service and WEFT would share that as necessary. WEFT is
> also moving to groogroo, making any such sharing easier.
>
> My understanding is that Sandra wants to do the community calendar as a
> public i venture, but in cooperation with WEFT, too --especially since
> WEFT already gets lots of PSAs, press releases and announcements.
>
> --Paul
>
> Sascha Meinrath wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Paul Riismandel wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Also, two WEFT volunteers have stepped forward to make a commitment to
> >>an entertainment calendar -- one is willing to make a pretty major
> >>commitment.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >This sounds like a highly beneficial cooperation opportunity -- the IMC
> >could provide the tech backend and mad skills (and some on-the-ground
> >support -- through both the Web and Tech Groups), WEFT could provide folks
> >to update the calendar; we could bill it as the WEFT/IMC Community
> >Calendar and broadcast its existence through multiple different media
> >outlets.  Personally, I think it's a golden opportunity for actually
> >filling this void effectively.  What would be needed next steps and who
> >are the various stakeholders working on this right now?
> >
> >--Sascha
> >
> >
> >
> >>Paul Riismandel wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>WEFT and the public i are each working on different aspects of a
> >>>calendar. Sandra is heading up an effort to put together a community
> >>>calendar, and WEFT a music/entertainment calendar.  There is some
> >>>basic coordination between both orgs.
> >>>The biggest problem is that it is like pulling teeth from a rhino to
> >>>get everyone (bands, groups, venues, etc) to use a web interface and
> >>>put data in themselves, or to even fax in data.  It's still a paper
> >>>organization thing.
> >>>
> >>>A small tech company in town has made an initial offer to WEFT to
> >>>provide a tech backend for inputting this data and turning it into
> >>>multiple pretty outputs -- web, paper, on-air reads, etc.
> >>>--Paul
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Sascha Meinrath wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, rosemary braun wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Hey Sascha -- this is probably an old idea, but:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>There's two problems in CU right now.  One is that, with the demise of
> >>>>>the CityView, there is no good weekly comprehensive calendar of events.
> >>>>>The other is that there's a whole heap of people out there who aren't
> >>>>>going to the IMC website or picking up the public-i because, well,
> >>>>>it's those crazy hippie kids and what could I possibly have in common
> >>>>>with them?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I think that if the IMC produced such a comprehensive calendar, it'd
> >>>>>solve
> >>>>>the first problem and might draw more people in who won't come
> >>>>>otherwise.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>yes, absolutely -- we've talked at length about getting a better
> >>>>calendar.
> >>>>i've been negotiating with some university folks about using one of
> >>>>theirs, but they haven't decided whether to make the code open source
> >>>>(and
> >>>>i suspect it'll take the university another 3-years to come to a
> >>>>decision
> >>>>on that).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>The webified community calendar is a start, but the problem with that
> >>>>>is that it relies on the artists/venues to populate it and so it's not
> >>>>>terribly comprehensive.  If the various
> >>>>>venues/galleries/theatres/cinemas
> >>>>>could be convinced to fax in a schedule of their events for the week,
> >>>>>or if someone could get on the phone with them and write it all down,
> >>>>>and if some poor sod could take the time to compile them, that'd be
> >>>>>a lot
> >>>>>more useful to the person who's bored on a Friday night.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>a large group of former cu-cityview staff are meeting regularly to
> >>>>discuss
> >>>>options.  i think there are two situations -- the first is that there
> >>>>needs to be a weekly calendar; the second is that there should be a
> >>>>central on-line place to look for shows info.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Print would be nice, too.  I know that the IMC doesn't have the
> >>>>>resources
> >>>>>to churn out a public-i on a weekly basis, but how about a flier, with
> >>>>>just a schedule grid for music (like the old Octopus one) on the front,
> >>>>>and Art/Theatre/Movie listings on the back?  I don't really know what
> >>>>>these things cost, but such a listing -- in terms of effort -- could be
> >>>>>produced more regularly than a full paper.  I know that distribution
> >>>>>can
> >>>>>be a nightmare, too; it'd be nice if people could find it in the places
> >>>>>that they're used to finding the Octopus, theoretically.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>But at very least, a comprehensive weekly webified calendar, well-
> >>>>>publicized, could really do the IMC -- and CU as a whole -- a lot of
> >>>>>good.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Whaddaya think?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>i couldn't agree more.   one possibility is to create a web-calendar
> >>>>that
> >>>>uses a fairly good content management system and that could be output
> >>>>to a
> >>>>flyer directly.  more realistically (perhaps) is to create a calendar
> >>>>program that is easy to use, "pretty", easily accessed, etc. and start
> >>>>using our connections in the community to point people to it.  this
> >>>>wouldn't be too much of a hassle -- but what we're missing is someone
> >>>>with
> >>>>tech skills to coordinate the effort.  you're definitly right, we have a
> >>>>tremendous opportunity right now to fill a major void; all we need is a
> >>>>volunteer.
> >>>>
> >>>>--sascha
> >>>>
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