[UCIMC-Tech] Spam Mass Deletion Disabled

[Chris Ritzo]

I think that there's not a limit on spam blocks, but there are limits on
legit posts and captchas.

I'll look into better features as I get time.
-Chris

On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Mike Lehman <rebelmike at earthlink.net>wrote:

>  I see I misread and the spam limit is 1,000/day. There are days like
> that, but not often, FWIW.
>
> Still a lot of guts on the floor everyday...
> Mike
>
>
> On 12/9/2011 12:43 PM, Mike Lehman wrote:
>
> Chris,
> Thanks for the update. Looks like things are OK now, but overnight is the
> problem time for spam so we'll see. Yeah, if the monthly limit is 1,000
> spams, there's no way to keep up with crap we attract. Not sure how
> effective Mollom is as far as using the reporting feature, which I
> typically do, because I see pretty much the same stuff get through it so
> doesn't appear to learn from the resources expended to do that.
>
> Yeah, quite familiar with the balance between anonymous posting and spam
> tolerance. We're stuck with some form of anonymous posting as an IMC --
> unless we no longer desire to keep that commitment. Short of dropping that,
> there are several policy changes that could help with that I could suggest,
> for instance a blog separate from the Newswire's so that Local Yokel can
> chat with the faux-cop troll at his leisure, for instance, but no one seems
> much interested in the problems of web editing. Which is not really Tech's
> responsibility, but which no doubt creates issues that require Tech
> resources to implement.
>
> I'd be glad to drop this baby in someone else's lap, but am sticking with
> it for now in the interests of consistency. Eventually, I grow weary...
> And the website will be virtually useless in short order without human
> intervention.
> Mike
>
> On 12/9/2011 10:23 AM, Chris Ritzo wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
>  I just made an adjustment to the comment form, enabling text analysis
> for spam protection rather than the captcha. One of the issues that's
> certainly causing some spam is that the service we're using (
> http://www.mollom.com) is free up to a certain number of legit posts and
> spam blocks. The IMC site is regularly going over that limit, so I imagine
> what's happening is that we hit the limit and then spam gets through. To
> improve this, the IMC can consider paying for the Mollom Plus service,
> which is 30 EUR/month for up to 1000 legit posts per day and up to 1000
> correct captchas per day. It also offers better performance.
>
>  Anyone else on the tech list have ideas about better spam blocking on a
> Drupal site?
>
>  Beyond that, monitoring spam posts is just a fact of life of sites like
> ours where open & anonymous posts are allowed. Spam monitoring in general
> is a full time job that people actually get paid to do- part of a larger
> conversation I'm trying to open in our circles about the actual costs of
> tech infrastructure and support which needs to be addressed. A volunteer
> working group or volunteer web editors just don't have the capacity or
> interest in becoming spam monitors. I think this every time I log into one
> of our Mailman lists to clean out spam.
>
>  Anyway, I'll bring this up at our next board meeting, but if you could
> let me know if the above change has an effect on spam comments that would
> be awesome.
>
>  Chris
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Mike Lehman <rebelmike at earthlink.net>wrote:
>
>> The website was back up and mass delete is working again this morning, so
>> I cleaned up 500+ pieces of spam that arrived last night
>>
>> Makes me wonder...Is there anyway that a "duplicate post" or other such
>> dialogue that interrupted the posting process could be inserted if the
>> title is the same to prevent such abuse? If N=>2, it would throw a wrench
>> in the automated process used (posts were coming in at around 10/minute at
>> its height) since I doubt a human was doing it that rapidly, without being
>> too obtrusive to legitimate posting?
>>
>> Anyway, something like that is what I want for Xmas...or maybe someone
>> else that pays enough attention to the website to help clean up the crap
>> from time to time.
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On 12/9/2011 12:22 AM, Mike Lehman wrote:
>>
>>> The spammers are busy tonight. I deleted a hundred or so earlier with
>>> the mass delete option box checked.
>>>
>>> Came back and there's lots more. This time, I get an error messages when
>>> trying to do the same thing:
>>> "An illegal choice has been detected. Please contact the site
>>> administrator."
>>>
>>> Then the server crashed -- or something. Connection is timing out.
>>> Probably sack time, so if anyone gets the chance to clean things up once
>>> it's working, indulge yourself.
>>> Mike
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