[UCIMC-Tech] BTP Email lists
Stewart Dickson
mathartspd at gmail.com
Sat Jul 26 10:43:37 EDT 2014
Just a comment from a lurker on the list.
Not that the content on BTP is any great concern, but
The NSA is all up in Google's back-end.
What do you want to go to a monolithic, centralized media monopoly for?
When Chambana.net is all local, decentralized and independent?
Thanks,
-Stewart
On 7/26/14 9:31 AM, Jay Schubert wrote:
> Chris,
>
> I just finished the last of the migration of the general list and we
> don't use the zine list any more, so we are good to go with shutting
> down all four lists.
>
> thanks,
> Jay
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Chris Ritzo <critzo at chambana.net
> <mailto:critzo at chambana.net>> wrote:
>
> Jay,
> Just wanted to confirm that you're ready for me to archive these
> lists:
> btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net
> <mailto:btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net>
> btp-jail-libraries at lists.chambana.net
> <mailto:btp-jail-libraries at lists.chambana.net>
>
> And waiting to hear from you on archiving:
> bookstoprisoners at lists.chambana.net
> <mailto:bookstoprisoners at lists.chambana.net>
>
> Also, you have this list:
> btp-zine at lists.chambana.net <mailto:btp-zine at lists.chambana.net>
>
> Just send me a confirmation and I'll get the first two archived
> and the
> status of the other two.
>
> -Chris
>
>
>
> On 07/24/2014 03:54 PM, Jay Schubert wrote:
> > thanks. No rush. This weekend is fine. By then we can do
> keystaff and
> > jail librarians. I'll let you know if the migration of our
> general list
> > is complete by then too.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Chris Ritzo
> <critzo at chambana.net <mailto:critzo at chambana.net>
> > <mailto:critzo at chambana.net <mailto:critzo at chambana.net>>> wrote:
> >
> > Jay,
> >
> > Thanks for clarifying. I can definitely help with the
> decommisioning of
> > lists. Archives can remain online, which is the technical
> default. It
> > makes sense for my schedule to make some changes for you
> over the
> > weekend. If you need the chambana keystaff list
> decommissioned this
> > evening, I can do that tonight.
> >
> > Just let me know.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > On Thu 24 Jul 2014 01:26:37 PM EDT, Jay Schubert wrote:
> > > Chris,
> > >
> > > Thanks. Google is only allowing me to add 100 users every
> 24 hours,
> > > but our big list is just 300 people so this isn't a big
> deal. I
> > > experimented with invitations and found that direct add
> eliminates
> > > most of the confusion (invites ask people to visit the web
> archive
> > > then gives them hell if they're not a gmail user or
> especially if
> > > they're using an email address that's ever been associated
> with a
> > > google account). So far direct add has worked just fine
> tough, by
> > > adding them in batches of 10, ten times in a row each day.
> > >
> > > The help I need is simply to decommission the lists on
> > chambana.net <http://chambana.net> <http://chambana.net>
> > > <http://chambana.net>. I don't know of any DNS change
> that would be
> > > required since today people use the chambana list by
> > > emailing BooksToPrisoners at lists.chambana.net
> <mailto:BooksToPrisoners at lists.chambana.net>
> > <mailto:BooksToPrisoners at lists.chambana.net
> <mailto:BooksToPrisoners at lists.chambana.net>>
> > > <mailto:BooksToPrisoners at lists.chambana.net
> <mailto:BooksToPrisoners at lists.chambana.net>
> > <mailto:BooksToPrisoners at lists.chambana.net
> <mailto:BooksToPrisoners at lists.chambana.net>>> and after the
> change they
> > > will be sending mail to btp-announcements at googlegroups.com
> <mailto:btp-announcements at googlegroups.com>
> > <mailto:btp-announcements at googlegroups.com
> <mailto:btp-announcements at googlegroups.com>>
> > > <mailto:btp-announcements at googlegroups.com
> <mailto:btp-announcements at googlegroups.com>
> > <mailto:btp-announcements at googlegroups.com
> <mailto:btp-announcements at googlegroups.com>>>. I just want to make
> > > sure that the old groups are no longer sending mail once
> we pull the
> > > trigger and go live.
> > >
> > > I think we're ready to do this with
> > btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net
> <mailto:btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net>
> <mailto:btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net
> <mailto:btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net>>
> > > <mailto:btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net
> <mailto:btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net>
> > <mailto:btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net
> <mailto:btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net>>> today.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jay
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Chris Ritzo
> <critzo at chambana.net <mailto:critzo at chambana.net>
> > <mailto:critzo at chambana.net <mailto:critzo at chambana.net>>
> > > <mailto:critzo at chambana.net <mailto:critzo at chambana.net>
> <mailto:critzo at chambana.net <mailto:critzo at chambana.net>>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > I know that if you're running google apps for
> business/non-profit,
> > > then
> > > you can bulk subscribe people. Is this what you guys are
> > doing, Jay?
> > > What specifically are you looking for help with?
> Migrating users &
> > > archives? DNS redirect once the switch has been made?
> > >
> > > -Chris
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed 23 Jul 2014 05:22:10 PM EDT, Stuart Levy wrote:
> > > > Curious - Jay, do you have a good way to load names
> into a
> > Google
> > > > Groups list?
> > > >
> > > > It used to allow uploading a bunch of people and
> > auto-subscribing
> > > > them, and that may still be possible, but their
> anti-spam
> > provisions
> > > > make it very difficult. You upload a very small
> number of
> > > people at
> > > > a time, and if you load too many - and they won't
> tell you
> > how many
> > > > that is - then you're locked out and can upload no
> more for
> > another
> > > > day or so. I was able to load a few tens at a
> time, up to
> > > most of
> > > > a hundred per day, when last doing this a couple
> years ago.
> > So a
> > > > 500-person list took more than a week to migrate,
> including
> > a few
> > > > lockouts. I don't know how this compares with the
> BTP lists.
> > > >
> > > > Uploading addresses for people who then get Google
> > > > invitations-to-subscribe is less restrictive. But
> unless you
> > > have a
> > > > good way of telling people what to expect, most will
> just
> > miss the
> > > > subscription-invitation, or at least won't respond
> to it.
> > > >
> > > > Not sure whether the above is helpful, but if you
> haven't
> > > already done
> > > > that migration, then maybe it'll give you an easier time
> > than I had.
> > > > (I don't have access to do the things you'd actually
> want
> > tech help
> > > > with, like getting the existing lists to forward
> messages to
> > > your new
> > > > google groups.)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 7/23/14 3:34 PM, Jay Schubert wrote:
> > > >> Techsters,
> > > >>
> > > >> Books to Prisoners has decide to migrate our email
> lists
> > over to
> > > >> Google Groups for spam control, reliability and
> user experience
> > > >> issues. We have three lists total on chambana.net
> <http://chambana.net>
> > <http://chambana.net>
> > > <http://chambana.net>
> > > >> <http://chambana.net> and we will be ready to
> decommission
> > them in
> > > >> the coming days (not immediately).
> > > >>
> > > >> We will be starting with *Keystaff*, then *Jail
> Library*,
> > then the
> > > >> *General *list.
> > > >>
> > > >> Is anyone available to help with this effort?
> > > >>
> > > >> thanks,
> > > >> Jay
> > > >>
> > > >>
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