[UCIMC-Tech] BTP Email lists

Stewart Dickson mathartspd at gmail.com
Sat Jul 26 10:43:37 EDT 2014


Just a comment from a lurker on the list.
Not that the content on BTP is any great concern, but
The NSA is all up  in Google's back-end.
What do you want to go to a monolithic, centralized media monopoly for?
When Chambana.net is all local, decentralized and independent?

Thanks,

-Stewart

On 7/26/14 9:31 AM, Jay Schubert wrote:
> Chris,
>
> I just finished the last of the migration of the general list and we 
> don't use the zine list any more, so we are good to go with shutting 
> down all four lists.
>
> thanks,
> Jay
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Chris Ritzo <critzo at chambana.net 
> <mailto:critzo at chambana.net>> wrote:
>
>     Jay,
>     Just wanted to confirm that you're ready for me to archive these
>     lists:
>     btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net
>     <mailto:btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net>
>     btp-jail-libraries at lists.chambana.net
>     <mailto:btp-jail-libraries at lists.chambana.net>
>
>     And waiting to hear from you on archiving:
>     bookstoprisoners at lists.chambana.net
>     <mailto:bookstoprisoners at lists.chambana.net>
>
>     Also, you have this list:
>     btp-zine at lists.chambana.net <mailto:btp-zine at lists.chambana.net>
>
>     Just send me a confirmation and I'll get the first two archived
>     and the
>     status of the other two.
>
>     -Chris
>
>
>
>     On 07/24/2014 03:54 PM, Jay Schubert wrote:
>     > thanks.  No rush.  This weekend is fine.  By then we can do
>     keystaff and
>     > jail librarians.  I'll let you know if the migration of our
>     general list
>     > is complete by then too.
>     >
>     >
>     > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Chris Ritzo
>     <critzo at chambana.net <mailto:critzo at chambana.net>
>     > <mailto:critzo at chambana.net <mailto:critzo at chambana.net>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Jay,
>     >
>     >     Thanks for clarifying. I can definitely help with the
>     decommisioning of
>     >     lists. Archives can remain online, which is the technical
>     default. It
>     >     makes sense for my schedule to make some changes for you
>     over the
>     >     weekend. If you need the chambana keystaff list
>     decommissioned this
>     >     evening, I can do that tonight.
>     >
>     >     Just let me know.
>     >
>     >     Chris
>     >
>     >     On Thu 24 Jul 2014 01:26:37 PM EDT, Jay Schubert wrote:
>     >     > Chris,
>     >     >
>     >     > Thanks.  Google is only allowing me to add 100 users every
>     24 hours,
>     >     > but our big list is just 300 people so this isn't a big
>     deal.  I
>     >     > experimented with invitations and found that direct add
>     eliminates
>     >     > most of the confusion (invites ask people to visit the web
>     archive
>     >     > then gives them hell if they're not a gmail user or
>     especially if
>     >     > they're using an email address that's ever been associated
>     with a
>     >     > google account).  So far direct add has worked just fine
>     tough, by
>     >     > adding them in batches of 10, ten times in a row each day.
>     >     >
>     >     > The help I need is simply to decommission the lists on
>     > chambana.net <http://chambana.net> <http://chambana.net>
>     >     > <http://chambana.net>.  I don't know of any DNS change
>     that would be
>     >     > required since today people use the chambana list by
>     >     > emailing BooksToPrisoners at lists.chambana.net
>     <mailto:BooksToPrisoners at lists.chambana.net>
>     >     <mailto:BooksToPrisoners at lists.chambana.net
>     <mailto:BooksToPrisoners at lists.chambana.net>>
>     >     > <mailto:BooksToPrisoners at lists.chambana.net
>     <mailto:BooksToPrisoners at lists.chambana.net>
>     >     <mailto:BooksToPrisoners at lists.chambana.net
>     <mailto:BooksToPrisoners at lists.chambana.net>>> and after the
>     change they
>     >     > will be sending mail to btp-announcements at googlegroups.com
>     <mailto:btp-announcements at googlegroups.com>
>     >     <mailto:btp-announcements at googlegroups.com
>     <mailto:btp-announcements at googlegroups.com>>
>     >     > <mailto:btp-announcements at googlegroups.com
>     <mailto:btp-announcements at googlegroups.com>
>     >     <mailto:btp-announcements at googlegroups.com
>     <mailto:btp-announcements at googlegroups.com>>>.   I just want to make
>     >     > sure that the old groups are no longer sending mail once
>     we pull the
>     >     > trigger and go live.
>     >     >
>     >     > I think we're ready to do this with
>     > btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net
>     <mailto:btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net>
>     <mailto:btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net
>     <mailto:btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net>>
>     >     > <mailto:btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net
>     <mailto:btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net>
>     >     <mailto:btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net
>     <mailto:btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net>>> today.
>     >     >
>     >     > Thanks,
>     >     > Jay
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Chris Ritzo
>     <critzo at chambana.net <mailto:critzo at chambana.net>
>     >     <mailto:critzo at chambana.net <mailto:critzo at chambana.net>>
>     >     > <mailto:critzo at chambana.net <mailto:critzo at chambana.net>
>     <mailto:critzo at chambana.net <mailto:critzo at chambana.net>>>> wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >     I know that if you're running google apps for
>     business/non-profit,
>     >     >     then
>     >     >     you can bulk subscribe people. Is this what you guys are
>     >     doing, Jay?
>     >     >     What specifically are you looking for help with?
>     Migrating users &
>     >     >     archives? DNS redirect once the switch has been made?
>     >     >
>     >     >     -Chris
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     >     On Wed 23 Jul 2014 05:22:10 PM EDT, Stuart Levy wrote:
>     >     >     > Curious - Jay, do you have a good way to load names
>     into a
>     >     Google
>     >     >     > Groups list?
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > It used to allow uploading a bunch of people and
>     >     auto-subscribing
>     >     >     > them, and that may still be possible, but their
>     anti-spam
>     >     provisions
>     >     >     > make it very difficult.   You upload a very small
>     number of
>     >     >     people at
>     >     >     > a time, and if you load too many - and they won't
>     tell you
>     >     how many
>     >     >     > that is - then you're locked out and can upload no
>     more for
>     >     another
>     >     >     > day or so.     I was able to load a few tens at a
>     time, up to
>     >     >     most of
>     >     >     > a hundred per day, when last doing this a couple
>     years ago.
>     >       So a
>     >     >     > 500-person list took more than a week to migrate,
>     including
>     >     a few
>     >     >     > lockouts.   I don't know how this compares with the
>     BTP lists.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > Uploading addresses for people who then get Google
>     >     >     > invitations-to-subscribe is less restrictive.   But
>     unless you
>     >     >     have a
>     >     >     > good way of telling people what to expect, most will
>     just
>     >     miss the
>     >     >     > subscription-invitation, or at least won't respond
>     to it.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > Not sure whether the above is helpful, but if you
>     haven't
>     >     >     already done
>     >     >     > that migration, then maybe it'll give you an easier time
>     >     than I had.
>     >     >     > (I don't have access to do the things you'd actually
>     want
>     >     tech help
>     >     >     > with, like getting the existing lists to forward
>     messages to
>     >     >     your new
>     >     >     > google groups.)
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > On 7/23/14 3:34 PM, Jay Schubert wrote:
>     >     >     >> Techsters,
>     >     >     >>
>     >     >     >> Books to Prisoners has decide to migrate our email
>     lists
>     >     over to
>     >     >     >> Google Groups for spam control, reliability and
>     user experience
>     >     >     >> issues.  We have three lists total on chambana.net
>     <http://chambana.net>
>     >     <http://chambana.net>
>     >     >     <http://chambana.net>
>     >     >     >> <http://chambana.net> and we will be ready to
>     decommission
>     >     them in
>     >     >     >> the coming days (not immediately).
>     >     >     >>
>     >     >     >> We will be starting with *Keystaff*, then *Jail
>     Library*,
>     >     then the
>     >     >     >> *General *list.
>     >     >     >>
>     >     >     >> Is anyone available to help with this effort?
>     >     >     >>
>     >     >     >> thanks,
>     >     >     >> Jay
>     >     >     >>
>     >     >     >>
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