[IMC-US-Tech] Re: [imc-us-editorial] PROPOSAL: make archives private?

[sing and dance!]

hmm....
well I guess it has to be up for some more discussion.
can we try to decide on it by the 20th?
I don't think Pete and our anonymous requestor will ever agree.
But I think it's important to point out that the anonymous requestor is NOT from
the US, and in some places an association with indymedia may not be 'resume'
material....and it is not just full names, but also personal email addresses,
that are made public.

The problem is that, unlike on the lists hosted on indymedia's site, on the
ucimc lists it is impossible to hide individual posts.
i'm forwarding to tech also to see if there might be a way to add this
functionality to the admin template of the lists?

thx
jenka

Quoting Pete Stidman <pstidman at yahoo.com>:

> Yes I object.  don't know how far this has gotten,
> just saw it.  But there are solid transparency reasons
> for publicly archiving these lists.  I think it would
> be a major departure if we didn't.  Perhaps there is a
> different way to solve the problem, like making a
> suggestion that people do not use their full names.
>
> Besides, is it so bad to be associated with indymedia?
>  Personally I put it on my resume.
>
> -Pete
>
>
> --- sing and dance! <jenka at indymedia.org> wrote:
>
> > This request came in from someone who googled their
> > name and found the top three
> > things listed were posts to the imc-us-editorial
> > list, which the person had
> > thought were archived privately.
> >
> > well, the request has turned into this proposal
> > (which we should decide in the
> > next few days - say by the 16th?):
> > Make the archives of the list private - ie.
> > available only to list members.  any
> > objections?
> >
> > thx
> > jenka
> > -volunteer with indymedia pluto (oh wait, we didn't
> > get an indymedia there
> > yet...soon........sooon...)
> >
> > >Quoting bradley at riseup.net:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>Hello Jenka and all,
> > >>
> > >>I do suggest/request that the list
> > imc-us-editorial at lists.ucimc.org have
> > >>private archives.
> > >>
> > >>I also think this would satisfy the request being
> > made by XXXXXXX.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>There is not any notice to people that when they
> > email imc-us, their
> > >>email will be publically archived.
> > >>
> > >>----------
> > >>
> > >>If there are no objections, then i formally
> > request that the list
> > >>imc-us-editorial be made a private working list
> > (archives available to
> > >>members only)
> > >>
> > >>sincerely,
> > >>Bradley
> > >>
> > >>* * * * *
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>sing and dance! wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>hi bradley et all....
> > >>>i am assuming you mean that the list archives is
> > NOT private, which is why
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>it's
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>showing up on google searches.
> > >>>should the archives be made private (ie.
> > available only to members)?
> > >>>
> > >>>i haven't found anything on the admin interface
> > to hide specific posts like
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>the
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>ones mentioned below
> > >>>
> > >>>thx
> > >>>jenka
> > >>>
> > >>>Quoting bradley at riseup.net:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>Hey UC-IMC,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>The list, imc-us-editorial at ucimc.org is hosted
> > in Urbana, or by folks in
> > >>>>Urbana.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Th list archives are currently closed, though
> > personally i would like to
> > >>>>change this, and therefore some sensitive
> > personal information is coming
> > >>>>up in google searches, etc...
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Someone name XXXXXXXX has kindly asked me to
> > have the following links
> > >>>>hidden, or her personal information (address and
> > e-mail) be removed from
> > >>>>the archived emails.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Please help with this as soon as possible.
> > Please let me know the status
> > >>>>of this so I can return an email to XXXXXXXX.
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>>>sincerely,
> > >>>>Bradley
> > >>>>santa cruz and indymedia.us volunteer
> > >>>>
> > >>>>* * * * *
> > >>>>
> > >>>>-------- Original Message --------
> > >>>>Subject:         Re: privacy - five links in total
> > >>>>Date:         Mon, 04 Jul 2005 12:05:23 -0700
> > >>>>From:         bradley at riseup.net
> > >>>>To:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>hello XXXXXXXXXX,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>thanks for your patience. i have not forgotten
> > about this.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>here is what one person told me... someone i
> > thought may be able to help:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>"hey bradley, sorry about not following up
> > sooner.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>since these messages are on the uc list server,
> > there isnt much i can
> > >>>>do.  the indymedia list server techs installed
> > an option for admins to
> > >>>>remove mails themselves, since they had so many
> > requests.  the uc list
> > >>>>server has no such option and i wouldnt know who
> > to contact about it."
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>So, I need to track down the person that can
> > remove the emails (or your
> > >>>>personal info).
> > >>>>
> > >>>>I'll let you know what I find out. Please feel
> > free to email me again. :-)
> > >>>>
> > >>>>This is a serious concern for me as well, and
> > i'm sorry.....
> > >>>>
> > >>>>sincerely,
> > >>>>Bradley
> > >>>>
> > >>>>* * * * *
> > >>>>
> > >>>>XXXXXXXXXX wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>dear bradley,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>sorry, its me again, XXXXXXXXXX. there seem to
> > be much more
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>links than I thought.... (see further down).
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>please have those checked and, if somehow
> > possible, hide my address and
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>e-mail. you'll certainly understand that, being
> > a journalist, keeping my
> > >>>>private address private is quite essential for
> > me.... next time I'll
> > >>>>certainly use a nick-name-e-mail, but - as I
> > said - I was not aware the
> > >>>>e-mails went straight to the internet.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>sorry for the trouble. but I hope that drawing
> > your attention to an
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>article
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>that actually was violating everything that
> > indymedia stands for was worth
> > >>>>it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>thank your for your help!
> > >>>>>best wishes,
> > >>>>>XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> >
> > ----- End forwarded message -----
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
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> >
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