[Imc-web] Re: Imc-web digest, Vol 1 #187 - 1 msg

[Zachary C. Miller]

Makes sense to me. I'll be happy to transition to helping more with
Dada stuff come January.

Sascha Meinrath wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Clint Popetz wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 02:04:30PM -0600, Sascha Meinrath wrote:
> > > On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Clint Popetz wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 01:09:18PM -0600, Sascha Meinrath wrote:
> > > > > hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > over the past month or so i've been slowing changing the front page,
> > > > > cleaning up redundancies, etc.  the php code changes are all
> > > > > documented/commented.
> > > >
> > > > That would have been a good thing to communicate, since I was in the
> > > > process of transitioning the site to the newest version of dada, which
> > > > primarily involves diffing/patching our local changes.
> > > >
> > > > So I assume you have a set of diffs, in patch format, to give me?
> > >
> > > nope.  mainly i've been doing things just to learn php a bit better and
> > > for my own edification.  what's the timeline on the upgrade -- i can just
> > > make the changes again once the new version is up and running.
> >
> > The newest dada is substantially different than what we are using, so
> > your diffs likely won't apply post-upgrade without a lot of work.  The
> > entire site is done with stylesheets in the new dada.
> >
> > Here's where I am on the upgrade.  Everytime I attempt it, I put about
> > 10 hours of work in, only to hit some roadblock.  The upgrade scripts
> > take over 24 hours to run in order to make the database changes (mysql
> > is dumb about ALTER TABLE statements).  So I typically clone the site,
> > start the upgrade, hit a snafu related to trying to propogate our code
> > changes to the new version, then the database is too out-of-date (i.e.
> > the main site has articles that aren't in the clone) and I have to
> > repeat.  This is complicated by the fact that we are three versions
> > behind in the upgrade stream.  I've probably burned 40 hours over the
> > past several months attempting this process.
> >
> > Here's what I would _love_ to do:
> >
> > (a) Ignore our dada changes.  They are out of date, and mostly
> > cosmetic.
> 
> i think that this is well worth it -- dump the changes (we can always redo
> them if we feel the need).
> 
> > (b) Install the new dada, and point the main site at it, but _without_
> > all but the (say) 100 latest articles/features.
> >
> > (c) Move the backlog of articles to the new database over the
> > subsequent days after the bugs in the site are worked out.
> >
> > (d) Hand over dada-ucimc ownership to Dan and you all.
> >
> > This means that for a few days, articles older than the last 100
> > wouldn't be reachable.  I think that's not too much to swallow.  By
> > doing it this way, I can reasonably get the new site up in one 4 hour
> > session, which is about all my brain is good for in front of a
> > computer these days.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> 
> i think this is an excellent plan -- we'll just want to put up a quick
> razorwire letting folks know about the site upgrade and that older article
> will be reachable once the process is completed.  mainly, can we ensure
> that the old URLs for articles will still work once everything is
> finished?  just curious, but i support this plan of action.
> 
> --sascha
> 
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