From gavroche at gavroche.org  Thu Dec 19 20:04:07 2002
From: gavroche at gavroche.org (John)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:14 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Wax Arafat Missing
Message-ID: <BA27D6B6.9E7B%gavroche@gavroche.org>

http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2001/12/20/153835


From gavroche at gavroche.org  Thu Dec 19 20:07:12 2002
From: gavroche at gavroche.org (John)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:14 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Can any of you at UIUC confirm this?
In-Reply-To: <BA27D750.9E7C%gavroche@gavroche.org>
Message-ID: <BA27D76F.9E7D%gavroche@gavroche.org>

Scary sounding workshop at UIUC next year...

http://www.industryclick.com/magazinearticle.asp?magazineid=17&releaseid=970
9&magazinearticleid=136642&siteid=5


From Mhubertw at aol.com  Sun Dec  1 22:12:25 2002
From: Mhubertw at aol.com (Mhubertw@aol.com)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:50 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] SHAME OF SHAD, SELECTION FOR 11-30-02
Message-ID: <28.309ff767.2b1c37a9@aol.com>

THANKS FOR POSTING THIS IN HONOR OF THE THOUSANDS OF DECEIVED VETERANS WITH 
SERVICE RELATED ILLNESSES.
PLEASE MAKE THE FOLLOWING TWO CORRECTIONS:
LINE 8  SHOULD READ "POISONING", NOT "POISIONING"
LINE 20 SHOULD READ "WANTS", NOT "WANT".
I REGRET THE TWO INITIAL SPELLING ERRORS.
I DO NOT REGRET ANY OF MY COMMENTS REGARDING THE "COWARD OF CRAWFORD" AND HIS 
EQUALLY COWARDLY "CHICKENHAWKS"!
HUBERT WILSON
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From terry at collectorsinternet.com  Mon Dec  2 17:53:28 2002
From: terry at collectorsinternet.com (Terry Marie)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:50 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Hi
Message-ID: <20021202235351.3D60F188F2@imsahp>

Christmas time is here, and one of the?gifts that keeps on giving are gold 
coins and silver dollars.? History has shown that these precious metal coins 
not only last a lifetime, but for hundreds of generations.   For this month 
only, we are selling?exceptionally nice gold coins and silver dollars with 
full, sharp strikes at only $5 each above our cost.? Dates of our choice, of 
course,?but larger orders will contain many different and better dates.?? I 
would say that all of these are at least MS 60+?and there are many that?would 
grade out as MS 63 to MS 65, but we are putting all our gold coins together, 
so larger orders will have higher grades.? We're selling these all at the 
following low prices based on our volume wholesale costs:
$2 1/2 Indians? $195 each.? 
$5 Liberties? $165 each.
$10 Liberties $210 each.
$10 Indians?? $365 each.
$20 Liberties $395 each.
$20 Saints? $395 each.
100 year old Morgan dollars, all pre 1904.?Choice BU MS 63 $22 each, Roll of 
20?$395??Gem BU 64 $29 each Roll of 20 $495? Gem BU 65 $52 each.? Roll of 20 
$995.
Please add $6 to any size order to help with postage and insurance.   
Since we are?selling these at only $5 above?cost,?we have to limit sales to 
40 of each type, as?we expect to sell out of our complete inventory by?Dec. 
20th.??Mail your check or money order in before December 7th to get 2nd day, 
fully insured delivery before Christmas.???Simply use your own stationary, or 
our order form at <A HREF="www.collectorsinternet.com">www.collectorsinternet.com</A>  
Payments should be made to Collectors Internet, 7510 Sunset Blvd., #183, 
L.A., CA  90046
Thank you, 
Terry Brown
<A HREF="http://www.collectorsinternet.com/">www.collectorsinternet.com</A>



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From futrelle at shout.net  Mon Dec  2 20:33:47 2002
From: futrelle at shout.net (Editor-Within-Chief)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:50 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] ship of fools
Message-ID: <p05111b01ba11beae9087@[192.168.1.103]>

Montezuma scorned
like Norwalk hath
no fury
we were warned,
but did we listen?
no.  I told you globalization globalizes diseases,
West Nile killing
by degrees-es

As in
I sting you,
you vaccinate against me,
we're a dysfunctional strain
of toxin

but you voted for the brown party instead
who blithely kills its host by poxin'
innocents along with poxes,
dead

and on the cruise ships quickly spread
the germs by disinfectant bred
which we cannot contain

and brown the color of the party
crude as oil, foul and farty
will never ever take a bath
for fear of washing down
the drain.

-- 
Joe Futrelle
Editor-within-chief
http://www.newspoetry.com/


From ranjan at banerji.net  Mon Dec  2 22:51:14 2002
From: ranjan at banerji.net (Ranjan Banerji)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:50 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Hi
In-Reply-To: <20021202235351.3D60F188F2@imsahp>
Message-ID: <002301c29a87$9cdf0840$e3897ca5@l2k1rb>

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Uh,  is this a post?  I'm not sure.  It sure as heck starts out as
one...particularly the list of products available:

[snip]

$2 1/2 Indians  $195 each.  
$5 Liberties  $165 each.
$10 Liberties $210 each.
$10 Indians   $365 each.
$20 Liberties $395 each. 

[snip]

How is this not poetic?  It's certainly not mathematical, and it's
quite in line with the recent news on John Poindexter's Information
Awareness Office...

- --Ranjan

- --
Ranjan Banerji              "I know you believe you understand
ranjan@banerji.net           what you think I said, but I'm not
Educator/Designer/Learner    sure you realize that what you heard
The system shall evolve.     is not what I meant." --Hayakawa  

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From gavroche at gavroche.org  Tue Dec  3 00:07:59 2002
From: gavroche at gavroche.org (John)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:50 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Hi
In-Reply-To: <002301c29a87$9cdf0840$e3897ca5@l2k1rb>
Message-ID: <BA11A65F.14374%gavroche@gavroche.org>

> [snip]
> 
> $2 1/2 Indians  $195 each.
> $5 Liberties  $165 each.
> $10 Liberties $210 each.
> $10 Indians   $365 each.
> $20 Liberties $395 each.
> 
> [snip]
> 
> How is this not poetic?  It's certainly not mathematical, and it's
> quite in line with the recent news on John Poindexter's Information
> Awareness Office...

Not only is it poetic, but the irony reaches stratospheric levels.  Giving
silver and gold as Xmas presents.   Something tells me someone is
misunderstanding a Xmas carol.

But who am I to make comment?  I've already finished celebrating my 25th Day
of the First Month of Winter holiday.  (I've always found it fascinating
that they both fall on the same day...just different calendars.)

John


From futrelle at shout.net  Tue Dec  3 00:13:44 2002
From: futrelle at shout.net (Editor-Within-Chief)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:50 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Hi
In-Reply-To: <BA11A65F.14374%gavroche@gavroche.org>
References: <BA11A65F.14374%gavroche@gavroche.org>
Message-ID: <p05111b04ba11fb68cc3e@[192.168.1.103]>

Drat, I deleted it.  That was the poem that could really put 
Newspoetry on the map!!!

Which reminds me.

We're a little low on poetry.  Anyone who is so inspired please chuck 
some poetry logs on the newspoetry fire.  I don't want to have to 
start posting spam as newspoems.  I've got lots of Don Emerick in my 
back pocket, but I don't want to resort to an 
all-Emerick-all-the-time schedule if there are eligible poets out 
there yearning to breathe free.

At 12:07 AM -0600 12/3/2002, John wrote:
>  > [snip]
>>
>>  $2 1/2 Indians  $195 each.
>>  $5 Liberties  $165 each.
>>  $10 Liberties $210 each.
>>  $10 Indians   $365 each.
>>  $20 Liberties $395 each.
>>
>>  [snip]
>>
>>  How is this not poetic?  It's certainly not mathematical, and it's
>>  quite in line with the recent news on John Poindexter's Information
>>  Awareness Office...
>
>Not only is it poetic, but the irony reaches stratospheric levels.  Giving
>silver and gold as Xmas presents.   Something tells me someone is
>misunderstanding a Xmas carol.
>
>But who am I to make comment?  I've already finished celebrating my 25th Day
>of the First Month of Winter holiday.  (I've always found it fascinating
>that they both fall on the same day...just different calendars.)
>
>John
>
>_______________________________________________
>Newspoetry maillist  -  Newspoetry@lists.groogroo.com
>http://lists.cu.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/newspoetry


-- 
Joe Futrelle
Editor-within-chief
http://www.newspoetry.com/


From emerick at chorus.net  Tue Dec  3 01:56:17 2002
From: emerick at chorus.net (Donald L Emerick)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:50 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Hi -- (And add: Yo Silver, Away)
References: <BA11A65F.14374%gavroche@gavroche.org> <p05111b04ba11fb68cc3e@[192.168.1.103]>
Message-ID: <001c01c29aa1$a05f2f80$fb7ede42@jhh>

Re Don-Emerick-nonstop-newspoeticizings...

There are some things that money can't buy,
there are many more things that I want to try...
that money wouldn't want to own by and by...
like, for instance, drivel of my scratchy voice,
induced vomiting from a dormant volcano...
which spews spoils from soiling solo values  
who likes to explore a world aux orality,
French tongue it, talking Derridadaisms
until vomit becomes blocked for enemates.

nonetheless, graffiti is as graffiti doughs,
if you'll pardon the don for par wordplay,
which is always a way to self-amusement,
though the joker is not classic to memory,
something making a class sick to sucker.

if you read my book of arthritic arithmetic,
you would find sums that could not add up
because terms go missing, numbers misalign,
and other strange things happen to columns
which do not care how the count comes out,
as long as the origamic laws are satisfied,
by creases, paper cuts, and manipled folds --
though I also cheat and use glue and glitter,
and staples, tacks, nails, anchors for holds --
rarely giving credit to anyone for anything
I beg, borrow-steal of AbbyssHoughMein.

Why do I write so much when I say so little?
my therapist says this would be therapeutic,
while my dentist says it would be denteutic,
and (if you could play along with me) so-on.

In a game where I convey sense to others,
by sculpting clay into a brick, for instance,
when a brick is the secret object in mind,
I simply form an oblong box-like shape,
and flop it down on a table for my team,
to stumble around and wildly try to name,
for I do not know how to make a thing
look like a brick any more than it does,
though it also looks like all oblong things.
(Consider rectangular parallel-(pied)-pipers
from what once was called solid geometry --
but is now, political correction, elsenamed.)

Tell me this brick-resembling oblong is not
a brick because you think it is a shoe-box,
and what can I say, for you are right, too,
shoe-box and brick are mutually resembling...

(And would you, seeing a shoe-box hyphen,
wonder why brick is not a br-ick or br-i-ck,
or even, as we French would say, a bri-que?
and as we Arabs call Abri-Ka-Dabu-Rie?)

And if you said my oblong was a flower,
I might see a resemblance, up to a point,
for I have more imagination than artistry,
and very little of either that is reasonable,
yet I do try to get you to see florid bricks,
brick-a-brac floorings flowering in bloom,
as a broom sweeps down through boom.

The rest of you may be a happy blessed few
who have not to live daily with Don Emerick,
nor hear you all his gurgles, belches, or farts,
noisily breaking wind when he is wound up,
steaming his glassy eyes over until they gaze
on some possible ending that lets him escape.

Ah, if I take this next exit, I may get home,
Thanks for listening, Donald L Emerick


From futrelle at shout.net  Tue Dec  3 10:38:38 2002
From: futrelle at shout.net (Joe Futrelle)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Hi -- (And add: Yo Silver, Away)
In-Reply-To: <001c01c29aa1$a05f2f80$fb7ede42@jhh>
References: <BA11A65F.14374%gavroche@gavroche.org>
 <p05111b04ba11fb68cc3e@[192.168.1.103]>
 <001c01c29aa1$a05f2f80$fb7ede42@jhh>
Message-ID: <p05111b05ba128dfa25fd@[192.168.1.103]>

Hi, I didn't mean to single you out -- I don't like to run *anyone* 2 
or more days in a row b/c I would rather that there be a variety of 
npoets represented at any given time.  So keep 'em coming -- the more 
the merrier.

At 1:56 AM -0600 12/3/2002, Donald L Emerick wrote:
>Re Don-Emerick-nonstop-newspoeticizings...
...

-- 
Joe Futrelle
Person


From futrelle at shout.net  Tue Dec  3 10:56:58 2002
From: futrelle at shout.net (Editor-Within-Chief)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] newspoetry movie review: no such thing
Message-ID: <p05111b06ba128e944a1e@[192.168.1.103]>

ideas
iceland
hours of makeup
horses' asses
tableaux
no: slapping nuns parents comedy stars
real: budget acting
suspension of disbelief
brechtian as always
cf henry fool amateur trust
beauty and ambiguity

-- 
Joe Futrelle
Editor-within-chief
http://www.newspoetry.com/


From gillespi at uiuc.edu  Tue Dec  3 11:42:26 2002
From: gillespi at uiuc.edu (William Gillespie)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] google search on "Admiral Poindexter"
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212021641280.7562-100000@staff1.cso.uiuc.edu>

By now I could believe they appointed Poindexter. But I thought they were
joking about Kissinger. I did a google search on both to see whether the
internet thought these were bad men. Here's the first result for
Poindexter. The Nobel people gave Kissinger a nice site, all about Peace.

[...]

Q: Ari, why would this administration choose a man for couterterrorism who
is so associated with the dark side of the Iran Contra scandal, Admiral
Poindexter?

MR. FLEISCHER: When you say, choose him for counterterrorism, can you be
more specific?

Q: He's in the Pentagon, he's been appointed head of DARPA, which is a
counterterrorist office, developing plans, demonstrations with
information.

MR. FLEISCHER: I'm not aware of any appointment.

Q: Yet.

MR. FLEISCHER: Let me just say about Admiral Poindexter, Admiral
Poindexter is somebody who this administration thinks is an outstanding
American and an outstanding citizen who has done a very good job in what
he has done for our country, serving in the military.

Q: How can you say that, when he told Colonel North to lie?

MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, I think your views on Iran Contra are well-known,
but the President does believe that Admiral Poindexter served --

Q: It isn't my view, this is the prosecutor for the United States.

MR. FLEISCHER: I understand. The President thinks that Admiral Poindexter
has served our nation very well.

Q: Really?

MR. FLEISCHER: That's the President's thoughts.

Q: Do you know his record?

MR. FLEISCHER: I'm sure you will inform me.

Q: I don't have to, all you have to do is look it up.

[...]



From futrelle at shout.net  Tue Dec  3 16:34:36 2002
From: futrelle at shout.net (Editor-Within-Chief)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] newspoetry daily poems to end Dec 31, 2002
Message-ID: <p05111b0cba12dbf969b3@[141.142.96.16]>

Newspoets,

This is it.  William originally planned for Newspoetry to end on Dec 
31, 1999, but I liked writing newspoems so damned much that I asked 
him if I could shepherd it into the future, and he very kindly gave 
me the site and the domain.  Now it's time for me to hang up my 
fedora and grind my cigar out in the Newspoetry ashtray.

This is so I can devote more time to writing and performing music.

The plan:
- Freeze the site.  No more daily newspoems, just indexes into what's 
there, and some new content (see below).
- Keep the list up.  That's where all the action is anyway.  There 
are and should continue to be other venues for Newspoetry, and there 
should be a place for people writing Newspoetry in those various 
venues to collaborate.
- Solicit some new content:
   - an updated history of newspoetry
   - essays on newspoetry and being a newspoet

Why freeze the site instead of having someone succeed me as 
editor-within-chief?  To keep with William's original idea of the 
project being limited and intense rather than continual and routine. 
Also, I don't feel that the site is mine to give to anyone; the way I 
see it, I've just been borrowing it from William and now it's time to 
return it to him.

Of course you all should go start your own poetry sites and mailing 
lists about whatever you want.  It's fun.

So let's go out with a bang instead of a whimper.  There aren't that 
many days left between now and the end of the year, so I'd like to 
get as many people in as possible between now and then.  I'll even 
run more than one poem a day if I have to.

And there will be a big party.  In Urbana.

More soon,
-- 
Joe Futrelle
Editor-within-chief
http://www.newspoetry.com/


From geoffk at eden.rutgers.edu  Tue Dec  3 18:41:33 2002
From: geoffk at eden.rutgers.edu (Geoffrey Kurtz)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] old newspoem
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.44.0212031937280.612-100000@er4.rutgers.edu>

Below is an old and yellowed (as it were) newspoem that I wrote last
January, never sent, and forgot. I found it yesterday while I was looking
for something else in my hard drive. Are outdated newspoems still of
interest?

--Geoff

___________________________



"More Than $4.5 Billion Pledged in Afghan Aid Effort"
(New York Times, January 22, 2002)

Expand.
Winter ended.
Nations replaced themselves.
All donned new colors today.
We had pledged to design strange poems.
More than a $4.50 notebook can hold, though we won't bill.
Instead of only overhashing fights we've had for years: sprout forums and
     theories!
Rebuses and unyielding puzzles offend, but abcdefgh is an inefficient
     start for new politics: art heckles, naturally.
How often have words molded capitalism's attributes, prevented
     annihilation, or silenced the terrific horrors of instantly
     attractive art hacks?
Poems niggled structures here until they crumbled statues, they imploded
     guesses, maddened old neithers, and fiery striped days offered
     alternative works and dances.
My internal rational adorational orators conferred, fenced, heroically
     became colossal, bet omeletes, in-gathering annotated uncles
     (doggone it!) also finally making the World Bank and the United
     Nations just that.





From gillespi at uiuc.edu  Tue Dec  3 19:39:21 2002
From: gillespi at uiuc.edu (William Gillespie)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] newspoem by Raymond Federman
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212031937130.7126-100000@staff1.cso.uiuc.edu>


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 19:26:54 EST
To: gillespi@uiuc.edu
Subject: Re: [Newspoetry] newspoetry daily poems to end Dec 31, 2002 (fwd)

william

there is it my news poem


NEWS FROM TOMORROW

.....BOMBS..... DROPPED...
.......FROM LEFT AND RIGHT....

The Eagle and the Bear
have gulped each other ....
Down....

And the land is flat
                              Barren ...burnt
              Cut ...torn ...

And it rains blood from the sky
where the dumb birds fly
And it rains blood in the sea
where the dumb fish swim

And France has been devoured by hungry mouths
And England and Spain swallowed by the sea
And the brown and black men of Africa
have learned to write their own laws
and tortured themselves into civilization
And America has turned into a giant casino

All the Jews have been burned in a giant furnace
All the Catholics have been crucified
All the Muslims have learned to explode
And the Klu Klux Klan have eaten each other

 The world is flattened now ...
                                             ....scarred
and the stones are pale
like human faces
and the trees are on their knees

The Chinese rice has rotted
and they feed on human flesh

The southerners have been lynched
and their women raped by negroes

The book burned
And Arabia India Israel have been
                                      cut .....sliced
                                      cooked ......

And the Moon erased from the night
And Mars conquered and the Martians enslaved
And God [who died a long time ago] forgotten
And Life twisted ... deformed ... reduced to dirt ..
                                                       bleached .........

And Man too ...bleached ...

But let us assume that one of us ...
Only one ...You perhaps ...
(or) Me (or) anyone ...

You over there with the dreams
You hiding behind this poem
should escape
                     out of time ... into space....
with insanity scratching memories
out of your mind

And find there
                       a planet.... a star...
                        a world ....
where trees are still tall
where birds hide in couple to sing
where there is laughter and laughterature
and where there is a lstill a little love
and hands touch the night without fear

Let us assume
                       then ....
that a strange hand
should reach into your flesh
and shape with your bones
your mother's face ...

Will you again eat the forbidden fruit?




From babs at prairienet.org  Tue Dec  3 21:01:18 2002
From: babs at prairienet.org (Anne Bargar)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Poem
In-Reply-To: <p05111b0cba12dbf969b3@[141.142.96.16]>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10212032054440.16559-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>

beep!  insert sample

when its your birthday you get to ignore the news, or so i said yesterday
as i ran corn samples through the dickey-john.  its a machine that goes
beep, and in the same lab where it rests the perpetual card game goes on
every weekday at 11:30; in theory a hand is taken over when someone dies
or retires.  today dr. lambert has missed his appointment with dr.
alexander, henry, and some other guy with white hair, and they play cards
without him. will he make his 2:30 shoot-the-shit appointment with the
emeritus dr. alexander, whose status allows him to wander at will and chat
about wheat prices and pork production?  my birthday promise to myself is
that this is the news, although i will later allow bob to read me a news
story about how the rock band oasis got into another tussle of some
sort... stupid kids, they're only worth paying attention to when they do
something dumb, because its always off-the-scale-dumb.  i mean, keith
moon set a high standard for stupid rock-and-roll star behavior. he wasn't
known for beating people up, but for wrecking hotel rooms, although i did
once see a picture of him pouring booze all over a reporter's head.  it
did eventually kill him, i muse as i find myself caught between
conflicting desires.  one, to read the news, be upset, and do something
about it. two, to hibernate in my own life, safely locked away from both
the news, and the guilt trip for doing nothing.  three, to feel that i
could do anything that would cause effective change.  four, to give the
snippy, self-righteous, self-aggrandizing parts of the choir a good
thrashing. five, to give the democrats an even better, more thorough
thrashing.  hey, violence is cool; just ask the lead singer of oasis.
it's all good, and in the end, we'll wander the halls of the crop science
department and speak of pork production and fertilizer application rates
like dr. alexander; maybe that's the afterlife, and i'm seeing it in
action right in front of me.      


From emerick at chorus.net  Tue Dec  3 21:36:07 2002
From: emerick at chorus.net (Donald L Emerick)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] newspoetry daily poems to end Dec 31, 2002
References: <p05111b0cba12dbf969b3@[141.142.96.16]>
Message-ID: <001601c29b46$4937b9c0$cc7ede42@jhh>

NewsPoetic Elegy I:

The times-shattered man
in the tattered jacket
overslept on the night
when the coal trains
that clamored over tracks,
tresseled above his head,
stopped running forever.

The mine didn't produce,
not much, not anymore,
not since industry demand
like consumer demand, too,
had lapsed lacking comeback.

Coal was not economic,
it was not efficient,
nor burned it cleanly,
while oil or gas do,
and yield huge profits
for controlling cartels.

Gone were the winds
that whistled the tunes
of strangers passing-by,
soft lullabies for hoboes,
asleep under the bridges
of some Madison County,
waiting the next freight
going my way alone.

Grass will grow wildly
down the parallel tracks
that lead us away
to lead nowhere anymore;
it will wave away
the hours, consulting flowers,
seeming but elemental that
it never rides a train.

He missed last train,
one that never came;
he overslept an overdue
never again to come
train away from somewhere,
was left standing alone
in train-abandoned ruins.

Thanks for listening,
Donald L Emerick


From piuma at flim.com  Tue Dec  3 21:45:26 2002
From: piuma at flim.com (Chris Piuma)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] newspoetry daily poems to end Dec 31, 2002
In-Reply-To: <p05111b0cba12dbf969b3@[141.142.96.16]>
References: <p05111b0cba12dbf969b3@[141.142.96.16]>
Message-ID: <p05010401ba132a0e8b92@[192.168.0.4]>

Editor-Within-Chief showed great grace and sensitivity to write on 02.12.03:
>Now it's time for me to hang up my fedora and grind my cigar out in 
>the Newspoetry ashtray.

Poop on a stick! Poop! Poooooooop!

On a stiiiiiiick!

>And there will be a big party.  In Urbana.

Those of us who are a few thousand miles away will simply have to 
drink ourselves to sleep in solitude.

Ah well. All things must pass, I guess. Thanks to you and William and 
to all the newspoets for cluttering my inbox and contributing to such 
an odd and worthy project.

Yrs,

Chris.


From bwp61 at POPD.ix.netcom.com  Tue Dec  3 22:36:31 2002
From: bwp61 at POPD.ix.netcom.com (Robert Porter)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] newspoetry daily poems to end Dec 31, 2002
In-Reply-To: <p05111b0cba12dbf969b3@[141.142.96.16]>
References: <p05111b0cba12dbf969b3@[141.142.96.16]>
Message-ID: <a05111b01ba13362b2c58@[63.184.128.157]>

Well, yeah, but ...

damn!



At 4:34 PM -0600 12/3/02, Editor-Within-Chief wrote:
>Newspoets,
>
>This is it.  William originally planned for Newspoetry to end on Dec 
>31, 1999, but I liked writing newspoems so damned much that I asked 
>him if I could shepherd it into the future, and he very kindly gave 
>me the site and the domain.  Now it's time for me to hang up my 
>fedora and grind my cigar out in the Newspoetry ashtray.
>
>This is so I can devote more time to writing and performing music.
>
>The plan:
>- Freeze the site.  No more daily newspoems, just indexes into 
>what's there, and some new content (see below).
>- Keep the list up.  That's where all the action is anyway.  There 
>are and should continue to be other venues for Newspoetry, and there 
>should be a place for people writing Newspoetry in those various 
>venues to collaborate.
>- Solicit some new content:
>   - an updated history of newspoetry
>   - essays on newspoetry and being a newspoet
>
>Why freeze the site instead of having someone succeed me as 
>editor-within-chief?  To keep with William's original idea of the 
>project being limited and intense rather than continual and routine. 
>Also, I don't feel that the site is mine to give to anyone; the way 
>I see it, I've just been borrowing it from William and now it's time 
>to return it to him.
>
>Of course you all should go start your own poetry sites and mailing 
>lists about whatever you want.  It's fun.
>
>So let's go out with a bang instead of a whimper.  There aren't that 
>many days left between now and the end of the year, so I'd like to 
>get as many people in as possible between now and then.  I'll even 
>run more than one poem a day if I have to.
>
>And there will be a big party.  In Urbana.
>
>More soon,
>--
>Joe Futrelle
>Editor-within-chief
>http://www.newspoetry.com/
>
>_______________________________________________
>Newspoetry maillist  -  Newspoetry@lists.groogroo.com
>http://lists.cu.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/newspoetry


From gillespi at uiuc.edu  Wed Dec  4 10:04:21 2002
From: gillespi at uiuc.edu (William Gillespie)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] newspoetry daily poems to end Dec 31, 2002
In-Reply-To: <p05010401ba132a0e8b92@[192.168.0.4]>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212041003020.3247-100000@staff2.cso.uiuc.edu>

> >And there will be a big party.  In Urbana.
>
> Those of us who are a few thousand miles away will simply have to
> drink ourselves to sleep in solitude.

You got any videoconferencing and webcasting gear collecting dust in a
closet over there at that National Center for Supercumputing Apps Joe?


From futrelle at shout.net  Wed Dec  4 10:16:16 2002
From: futrelle at shout.net (Joe Futrelle)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] newspoetry daily poems to end Dec 31, 2002
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212041003020.3247-100000@staff2.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212041003020.3247-100000@staff2.cso.uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <p05111b06ba13da463d73@[192.168.1.103]>

At 10:04 AM -0600 12/4/2002, William Gillespie wrote:
>  > >And there will be a big party.  In Urbana.
>>
>>  Those of us who are a few thousand miles away will simply have to
>>  drink ourselves to sleep in solitude.
>
>You got any videoconferencing and webcasting gear collecting dust in a
>closet over there at that National Center for Supercumputing Apps Joe?

The only videoconferencing stuff I have only works if people on both 
ends have the same hardware.

I think this is a good excuse to buy a cheap webcam.

I can blow the whole Newspoetry rainy day fund on this party.  I have 
several negative hundred dollars in it.

>
>_______________________________________________
>Newspoetry maillist  -  Newspoetry@lists.groogroo.com
>http://lists.cu.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/newspoetry


-- 
Joe Futrelle
Person


From herringb at prairienet.org  Wed Dec  4 12:06:27 2002
From: herringb at prairienet.org (Paul Kotheimer)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Three Peace Carols for A.W.A.R.E.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212041124590.19219-100000@che.onthejob.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10212041151550.2626-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>

Earthly Peace
(to the tune of "Silent Night")

Peace on Earth!  Freedom from fear
for ev'ry child in ev'ry year.
No more sorrows for soldiers lost.
No more starving to cover the cost.
So the world could be.
So the world could be.

Peace on Earth?  Here in our hands
rests the power.  Let us make demands.
No more bombers and no more lies.
No more fire over foreign skies.
Let our consequence be
Peace in Two thousand and three.



A Thousand Generations
(to the tune of "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen")

A thousand generations have sent their sons to war,
but we could be the first to say they won't go anymore.
A dream of worldwide peace is what these holidays are for.
It is we who can make this dream come true.  It can come true.
If you want an end to war, it's up to you.



WE LOVE PEACE
(a peace carol especially for kids, with help from Kate and Charlotte
Popetz, to the tune of "Jingle Bells")

I want peace.  You want peace.  Everyone wants peace.
Grandmas, grandpas, moms and dads and little kids want peace, so
Sing out loud, sing out strong!  Say, "NO MORE" to war,
So little kids around the world won't be scared anymore!



On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Danielle Chynoweth wrote:

> Friends,
> 
> The 32nd annual Peace Bazaar is about a week and a half away. As most of
> you know, the Peace Bazaar sells gifts (new and recycled), baked goods,
> chocolates, UNICEF cards and calendars, household items, furniture, toys,
> books, plants, gift certificates to local restaurants and businesses, and
> several works by local artists.
> 
> The 32nd annual Peace Bazaar will be held Saturday, December 14th from 9
> a.m. to 3 p.m. at Community United Church of Christ. CUCC is at 6th and
> Daniel Street in Champaign.
> 
> All funds raised from the Peace Bazaar go to groups supporting Peace and
> Social Justice. This year the recipients include Eastern Illinois Foodbank,
> the BOAST Academy after-school program, the Progressive Resource Action
> Cooperative, the Independent Media Canter, Voices in the Wilderness,
> Witness for Peace, and Amnesty International USA.  Last year the Peace
> Bazaar was able to donate $3180 to six peace and justice groups, with each
> receiving $530. We hope to raise as much or more this year.
> 
> You can help make this possible by:
> 
> a) donating items to sell. Do you have things that you don't want or need
> anymore or things that just aren't your style but that are too good to be
> thrown away? Would those items make a good gift or be something someone
> else could use? Consider recycling your extras through the Peace Bazaar.
> We'd be happy to take your excess clutter.  Please see the end of this note
> for items we do and do not accept as donations.  Donations can be dropped
> off at 412 W Oregon St in Urbana or call 344-7942 to arrange for pick-up of
> larger donations.
> 
> b) getting the word out about the Bazaar. Please let your interested
> friends know that it is happening Dec. 14th. Posters are available or feel
> free to copy this e-mail to friends.
> 
> c) come shopping on Dec. 14th between 9 a.m. and 3 p.m. We always have some
> spectacular deals and treasures waiting to be found. Saturday Dec. 14th at
> Community United Church of Christ at 6th and Daniel Streets in
> Champaign.  Best selection is at 9 am.  Half-price sale starts at 1
> p.m.  Come to the Bazaar.  You'll be glad you did.
> 
> d) volunteering. Volunteers are always welcome and are what makes this
> event happen. Two hours of your time can make a big difference. E-mail
> jnlshppn@prairienet.org or call 344-7942.
> 
> UNICEF cards and calendars will be available at the Peace Bazaar. If you
> would like to get yours earlier, they are also on sale at the campus YMCA
> during lunch hours between now and Dec 13th.  Call 344-7942 or e-mail
> jnlshppn@prairienet.org for more info.
> 
> If you'd like additional information about donations, posters,
> volunteering, UNICEF merchandise, the groups being funded, etc. please
> e-mail jnlshppn@prairienet.org or call 344-7942.
> 
> Thanks for reading this lengthy note. Hope to see you on Dec. 14th
> Joan Nelshoppen
> Claire Szoke
> co-coordinators Peace Bazaar
> 
> 
> Items we accept for donation:
> Decorative items, toys, pottery, ceramics, dishes, cookware, pasta makers,
> bread makers and other small kitchen appliances, ceramics, baked goods,
> hand-made crafts, household items, antiques, house plants, works by local
> artists, gift certificates to local restaurants and businesses, sports
> equipment, musical instruments, multicultural art, handspun and woven
> scarves, hats, and wraps, sweaters suitable for giving as gifts, children's
> books, cook books, coffee table books, gardening books, recently published
> fiction, furniture, microwaves, televisions (Please call first about
> donations of furniture, microwaves, televisions or other large items.)
> 
> Please do NOT donate the following:
> Used clothing (exception: nice sweaters), shoes, computer equipment, broken
> items, magazines, text books, encyclopedia sets, coffee mugs (unless in a
> matching set), violent toys including toy soldiers, action figures with
> weapons, toy guns, and kits for building models of bomber aircraft or tanks
> 
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From gillespi at uiuc.edu  Wed Dec  4 12:31:20 2002
From: gillespi at uiuc.edu (William Gillespie)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Federman's author photo
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212041226090.19522-100000@staff3.cso.uiuc.edu>

Unlike many writers of his stature, Ray Federman is happy to be asked to
write a poem about the news and responds within an hour. If you choose to
run his poem, a sexy jazz photo of the man is available at
http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/federman/



From rebelmike at earthlink.net  Wed Dec  4 13:06:54 2002
From: rebelmike at earthlink.net (Mike Lehman)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] newspoetry daily poems to end Dec 31, 2002
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212041003020.3247-100000@staff2.cso.uiuc.edu> <p05111b06ba13da463d73@[192.168.1.103]>
Message-ID: <3DEE524E.13E7441F@earthlink.net>

If we need a cheap webcam, I have one sitting around here.
Mike

Joe Futrelle wrote:
> 
> At 10:04 AM -0600 12/4/2002, William Gillespie wrote:
> >  > >And there will be a big party.  In Urbana.
> >>
> >>  Those of us who are a few thousand miles away will simply have to
> >>  drink ourselves to sleep in solitude.
> >
> >You got any videoconferencing and webcasting gear collecting dust in a
> >closet over there at that National Center for Supercumputing Apps Joe?
> 
> The only videoconferencing stuff I have only works if people on both
> ends have the same hardware.
> 
> I think this is a good excuse to buy a cheap webcam.
> 
> I can blow the whole Newspoetry rainy day fund on this party.  I have
> several negative hundred dollars in it.


From futrelle at shout.net  Wed Dec  4 13:07:54 2002
From: futrelle at shout.net (Joe Futrelle)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] newspoetry daily poems to end Dec 31, 2002
In-Reply-To: <3DEE524E.13E7441F@earthlink.net>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212041003020.3247-100000@staff2.cso.uiuc.edu>
 <p05111b06ba13da463d73@[192.168.1.103]> <3DEE524E.13E7441F@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <p05111b00ba1402d61d79@[192.168.1.103]>

At 1:06 PM -0600 12/4/2002, Mike Lehman wrote:
>If we need a cheap webcam, I have one sitting around here.

Can it stream live pix & audio to any web browser?  Does it only run 
under windows?  always with the questions

>Mike
>
>Joe Futrelle wrote:
>>
>>  At 10:04 AM -0600 12/4/2002, William Gillespie wrote:
>>  >  > >And there will be a big party.  In Urbana.
>>  >>
>>  >>  Those of us who are a few thousand miles away will simply have to
>>  >>  drink ourselves to sleep in solitude.
>>  >
>>  >You got any videoconferencing and webcasting gear collecting dust in a
>>  >closet over there at that National Center for Supercumputing Apps Joe?
>>
>>  The only videoconferencing stuff I have only works if people on both
>>  ends have the same hardware.
>>
>>  I think this is a good excuse to buy a cheap webcam.
>>
>>  I can blow the whole Newspoetry rainy day fund on this party.  I have
>>  several negative hundred dollars in it.
>
>_______________________________________________
>Newspoetry maillist  -  Newspoetry@lists.groogroo.com
>http://lists.cu.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/newspoetry


-- 
Joe Futrelle
Person


From rebelmike at earthlink.net  Wed Dec  4 13:45:48 2002
From: rebelmike at earthlink.net (Mike Lehman)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] newspoetry daily poems to end Dec 31, 2002
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212041003020.3247-100000@staff2.cso.uiuc.edu>
	 <p05111b06ba13da463d73@[192.168.1.103]> <3DEE524E.13E7441F@earthlink.net> <p05111b00ba1402d61d79@[192.168.1.103]>
Message-ID: <3DEE5B6C.ACF8A650@earthlink.net>

Duh, I don't know...
So I got it out of the box. It's a Logitech Quickcam Express. It needs
to run under W98 and seems to indicate that it'll do streaming video,
along with audio (it looks like there's a mic built in.)
Here's a link:
<http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?page=support/products/details&CRID=307&contentid=6040&countryid=19&languageid=1>
Mike

Joe Futrelle wrote:
> 
> At 1:06 PM -0600 12/4/2002, Mike Lehman wrote:
> >If we need a cheap webcam, I have one sitting around here.
> 
> Can it stream live pix & audio to any web browser?  Does it only run
> under windows?  always with the questions
> 
> >Mike
> >
> >Joe Futrelle wrote:
> >>
> >>  At 10:04 AM -0600 12/4/2002, William Gillespie wrote:
> >>  >  > >And there will be a big party.  In Urbana.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  Those of us who are a few thousand miles away will simply have to
> >>  >>  drink ourselves to sleep in solitude.
> >>  >
> >>  >You got any videoconferencing and webcasting gear collecting dust in a
> >>  >closet over there at that National Center for Supercumputing Apps Joe?
> >>
> >>  The only videoconferencing stuff I have only works if people on both
> >>  ends have the same hardware.
> >>
> >>  I think this is a good excuse to buy a cheap webcam.
> >>
> >>  I can blow the whole Newspoetry rainy day fund on this party.  I have
> >>  several negative hundred dollars in it.
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Newspoetry maillist  -  Newspoetry@lists.groogroo.com
> >http://lists.cu.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/newspoetry
> 
> --
> Joe Futrelle
> Person


From emerick at chorus.net  Wed Dec  4 13:46:22 2002
From: emerick at chorus.net (Donald L Emerick)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Are you ready for the gut-wrenching, rip-roaring '00s?
Message-ID: <002001c29bcd$d42fd260$f17ede42@jhh>

Are you ready for the gut-wrenching, rip-roaring 00s?

***

NYT NEWS:
Bush Restoring Cash Bonuses for Appointees
The White House will make several thousand political appointees
eligible for lucrative cash bonuses, abandoning a Clinton-era prohibition. 

***

Couple this with the authority to fire arbitrarily (ie, for reasons of National Security) any federal employee, which Congress has granted the President, 

Add the authority (also in the guise of National Security) to do anything that it wishes to do to Federal employee Wages and Benefits (such as arbitrary modifications for the "good" of the country  -- all without any bargaining).

and, finally, Add the authority to sweep Federal workers out the door and into the waiting clutches of for-profit private contractors, who'd chop wages and benefits of former Federal employees, to show "cost-savings" -- maybe by shipping these jobs to offshore corporations, for performance in 3rd world sweat shops -- and who would vie with one another, for the favors of these federal contracts, by furthering the already rampantly corrupt scene in DC.

***

This is the recipe for the scene of Washington DC as it existed in the late 1800s.  Tammany Hall is coming back!  Mayor Daley, the last of the big city bosses, will finally be eclipsed by the first presidential political boss -- who appears to be setting up a machine that will steal everything in sight, being sure to call it first "a reform needed for National Security".

But, of course, they came into office, just like an old-time machine candidate, by stealing the election, and then having their rubber stamps certify it as valid.

***

Of course, Americans know so little American history (or anything about Geography, for that matter -- for too many of them could not the Pacific Ocean on a map, and a very large number of them could not find Iraq or Iran (which makes you wonder just where they think this war might happen, this war that they supposedly support, somewhat, somehow), that they have no idea at all that there even was anything at all that happened between the Civil War and the Spanish American War, except for those massive slaughterings of those savages out on the plains, which they forgive (themselves) because who wouldn't react harshly to people who try to engage in a modicum of self-defense?  I mean, it seems plain awful to be shot with a bloody arrow, and have it thunk into you, and be sticking out of you, where your putatively dying eyes could see it there, the cause of your present pain and possible death.  How much more civilized is the white man, what with his tiny bullets, that hardly make a noise at all on impact, and often leave only the smallest of holes, and kill you so cleanly that you hardly have time to know that you are dying or dead.  (I guess I have watched Dancing with Wolves too many times.)

But, I suppose that savage death talks wander away from my topic of slave labor being defined by terms, badges, or conditions as contracts of slavery -- except for the incidental fact that every system move toward greater enslavement of its own peoples seems to be so intimately connected with the possibility and the actuality of massive bloody deaths.

Were I a social scientist, that would be my model for discussing what the world is like when peace is not happening to the people.

***

Now, were I to do something NewsPoetic with this News,
assuming that I could accomplish the activity standardly,
then I would, perhaps, try to present an inversion of News,
to invert the meaning of the actions, given the persons.

For instance, 
Bush will make several thousand political appointees
eligible for food stamps and other welfare benefits.

or

... eligible bachelors by stripping them of reasons
for not working 24/7 for Bush Administration goals.

or 

... into communists who win or loose as one,
as the theory of communism might say,
we're all in this together,
in the team there is no I,
we shall hang together to hang others
or else we shall be hung by them,
and not just in metaphoric effigy.

Thanks for listening
Donald L Emerick
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From: futrelle at shout.net (Joe Futrelle)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] newspoetry daily poems to end Dec 31, 2002
In-Reply-To: <3DEE5B6C.ACF8A650@earthlink.net>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212041003020.3247-100000@staff2.cso.uiuc.edu>	
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At 1:45 PM -0600 12/4/2002, Mike Lehman wrote:
>Duh, I don't know...
>So I got it out of the box. It's a Logitech Quickcam Express. It needs
>to run under W98 and seems to indicate that it'll do streaming video,
>along with audio (it looks like there's a mic built in.)
>Here's a link:
><http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?page=support/products/details&CRID=307&contentid=6040&countryid=19&languageid=1>
>Mike

I've got a Win98 box in my basement -- maybe we could webcast the 
live poetry with rock 'n' roll accompaniment that is inevitable in 
our basement.

>
>Joe Futrelle wrote:
>>
>>  At 1:06 PM -0600 12/4/2002, Mike Lehman wrote:
>>  >If we need a cheap webcam, I have one sitting around here.
>>
>>  Can it stream live pix & audio to any web browser?  Does it only run
>>  under windows?  always with the questions
>>
>>  >Mike
>>  >
>>  >Joe Futrelle wrote:
>>  >>
>>  >>  At 10:04 AM -0600 12/4/2002, William Gillespie wrote:
>>  >>  >  > >And there will be a big party.  In Urbana.
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  Those of us who are a few thousand miles away will simply have to
>>  >>  >>  drink ourselves to sleep in solitude.
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >You got any videoconferencing and webcasting gear collecting dust in a
>>  >>  >closet over there at that National Center for Supercumputing Apps Joe?
>>  >>
>>  >>  The only videoconferencing stuff I have only works if people on both
>>  >>  ends have the same hardware.
>>  >>
>>  >>  I think this is a good excuse to buy a cheap webcam.
>>  >>
>>  >>  I can blow the whole Newspoetry rainy day fund on this party.  I have
>>  >>  several negative hundred dollars in it.
>>  >
>>  >_______________________________________________
>>  >Newspoetry maillist  -  Newspoetry@lists.groogroo.com
>>  >http://lists.cu.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/newspoetry
>>
>>  --
>>  Joe Futrelle
>>  Person
>
>_______________________________________________
>Newspoetry maillist  -  Newspoetry@lists.groogroo.com
>http://lists.cu.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/newspoetry


-- 
Joe Futrelle
Person


From rebelmike at earthlink.net  Wed Dec  4 16:18:47 2002
From: rebelmike at earthlink.net (Mike Lehman)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Nation of Conquerers
Message-ID: <3DEE7F47.34E2CD18@earthlink.net>

Bush says
"We've never been a nation
Of conquerors"
To reassure other peoples
Concerned about our terrorist war
Somehow
He must have missed
The history lesson
About the people
Who were American before
The white man came
Who killed, starved, and imprisoned
The native man
Along with native women
And native children
Who were forbidden
To speak their native language
Made them speak English
So they can understand the words
Of the Illini Fight Song
While the Chief
Dances their heritage
Into the plastic dust
Of Memorial Stadium


From gillespi at uiuc.edu  Wed Dec  4 16:25:22 2002
From: gillespi at uiuc.edu (William Gillespie)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] NY Times Quote of the Day
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212041154500.9555-100000@staff3.cso.uiuc.edu>

"I thinked the snoozepoets are one of the most poeticalist American
writists ever to inscriptulate poerty." - George W. Bush

+--

12/3/02 17:30:27 PM - 6 PM

Newspoetry's last stand: Out Like a Lion

I thought we were badasses under Clinton, no IPO
the internet made our brand of subversion feasible
newspoetry underground suddenly blossoming
garish textual flowers on 1999 internet
fuck the typos this is poetry of the minute
and all those cumbersome voicebox Kopplisms
were the flutes and naves and fineals of our jumbled architecture
take the newspaper, three friends, and a formal constraint
you got yourself a party, goes with beer, good without too
"in short science was possible"
well i just found out that newspoetry
is going off the air newspoetry
has left the building newspoetry
was what was waiting for me at home in a
cold alone apartment something brewed
according to Germany's Purity Act
5:30 after work logging in to write
nothing like the comfort of authoring
cocktail napkins off the Embassy Tribune
a pink highlighter the A-section and thou so
goes the work of the newspoet protecting newspoetry
from the indifference of the internet the site
to be a flash-frozen ice sculpture a thing of
weird and fragile beauty, newspapermache
pterodactylic anapestilent trochee horse
newspoetry when suck.com was worth money
and even the most powerful man in the world
lied about sex (under oath)
having gathered together under a word coined
with strangers, virtually, like Nicky
what tickles our inboxes on a Friday afternoon
how do we channel our rage shame and frustration
at the language strangling our future
that was then this is Bush
Ashcroft Kissinger Powell Cheney Poindexter
a fucking Washington D.C. cemetery
awful zombies breaking sod and moaning to life
creatures from the black ops
the war has been coming home
terrorists are destroying our
country's sense of humor
peace must be our main export
and so the real work begins
newspoetry here's looking at you

+--

Newspoetry Movie Review: Bowling for Columbine

US news causes
fear which causes more shooting
which causes more news


From Mhubertw at aol.com  Wed Dec  4 18:34:36 2002
From: Mhubertw at aol.com (Mhubertw@aol.com)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] HE WEARS A YELLOW STRIPE
Message-ID: <11e.1ab49a38.2b1ff91c@aol.com>

DOWN HIS BACK HE WEARS A YELLOW STRIPE.
HE WORE IT IN THE TEXAS GUARD BECAUSE IT WAS NOT VERY HARD.
AND IF YOU ASKED HIM WHY HE WORE THAT YELLOW STRIPE?
HE WOULD NOT SAY.
BUT HE WORE IT BECAUSE TRUE SOLDIERS WERE FAR, FAR AWAY!

AROUND HOUSTON HE PARTIED WITHOUT A CARE.
HE PARTIED IN THE TEXAS GUARD BECAUSE IT WAS NOT VERY HARD.
AND IF YOU ASKED HIM WHY HE PARTIED?
HE WOULD NOT SAY.
BUT HE PARTIED BECAUSE TRUE SOLDIERS WERE FAR, FAR AWAY!

AROUND MONTGOMERY HE MISSED MANY A DRILL.
MISSED IN THE ALABAMA RESERVES BECAUSE HE WAS NOT EVEN OBSERVED!
AMD IF YOU ASKED HIM WHY HE MISSED THE DRILLS?
HE WOULD NOT SAY.
BUT HE MISSED THE DRILLS BECAUSE TRUE SOLDIERS WERE FAR, FAR 
AWAY!

BEHIND DADDY'S HACKS HE HID THAT YELLOW STRIPE.
FOR OVER A YEAR HE HID WITHOUT A FEAR.
AND IF YOU ASKED HIM WHY HE DID NOT PAY UNDER THE UCMJ?
HE WOULD NOT SAY.
BUT HE DID NOT PAY BECAUSE TRUE SOLDIERS WERE FAR, FAR AWAY!

TEXAS GUARD LOOKED THE OTHER WAY.
THEY WOULD NOT SAY; OTHERWISE, THEN THEY WOULD PAY?
AND IF YOU ASKED HIM WHY ONLY THEY WOULD PAY?
HE WOULD NOT SAY.
BUT ONLY THEY WOULD PAY BECAUSE TRUE SOLDIERS WERE FAR, FAR AWAY!

NOW THE WHOLE NATION SEEMS TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY.
MANY ARE TOO EMBARRASSED TO SAY WE WEARS THAT YELLOW STRIPE EVEN TODAY!
AND IF YOU ASK HIM NOW ABOUT THAT YELLOW STRIPE?
HE STILL WILL NOT SAY.
WE KNOW HE IS PROTECTED BY,
BUT STILL BETRAYS TRUE SOLDIERS WHO ARE FAR, FAR AWAY!


COPYRIGHT  2002  HUBERT WILSON
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From geoffk at eden.rutgers.edu  Wed Dec  4 22:18:18 2002
From: geoffk at eden.rutgers.edu (Geoffrey Kurtz)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] new poem, this time
In-Reply-To: <20021204124415.18490.53802.Mailman@imsahp>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.44.0212042316410.4604-100000@er4.rutgers.edu>

Test of Power: Inspectors Tour an Iraqi Palace
(http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/04/international/middleeast/04BAGH.html)

Iraq has seen many remarkable
scenes in the first week of the new zero-
tolerance weapons inspections.
But there has been nothing
to compare with the moment today
when two teams of United Nations inspectors

became six point two three four billion inspectors,
scattered and startled by the remarkable
fact of their multiplication. Before today,
observations approached zero.
The popular thing to look at was nothing.
Trillions of events passed without inspections.

Now we make time for no task but inspections.
Now we set out to be no one but inspectors.
Objects, absences, patterns, relations: nothing--
or, not anything really remarkable--
escapes us. From zero
to everything, just today.

We'll be exhausted by the end of today.
We'll say, "Who'd've thought new inspections
could find new metaphors and monkeywrenches? I had zero
ideas and no inclinations. Now studious inspectors
roam everywhere. How remarkable
how, before, we'd noticed nothing."

But of course nothing
I've said is true, tomorrow or today.
No one finds it remarkable
when old books, new leaves, even implications get no inspections
from the six point two three four un-inspectors
with their no notebooks and pencils blunt like zero.

A Greek named Zero
(or something like that) said that nothing
inspectors
inspect today
will be available for inspections
tomorrow. He did not think this remarkable.

What's remarkable to me is the zero
dollars my inspections earn me. Nothing
doing. I wish inspectors got good pay, at least today.




From gavroche at gavroche.org  Thu Dec  5 00:00:33 2002
From: gavroche at gavroche.org (John)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Final poems?
Message-ID: <BA1447A0.1448A%gavroche@gavroche.org>

Three submissions (two quite short) for the Final Days.

John Newmark
gavroche@gavroche.org

1)

Of Mice and Men

Scientists have now published
the genetic code of mice.
No one has asked the mice
whether they want their code published.

As a computer programmer
I value the copyright on my code,
and worry about the precedent
this might set.

Supposedly 3/4 of all humans
are mouse,
or maybe 3/4 of all mice
are human.

I might be confused,
but this certainly could explain
why I like cheese,
and elephants fear me.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2536501.stm

2)

Why you need to brush your teeth.

A new  theory states
life on planet Earth
began in our cavities.

http://www.nature.com/nsu/021202/021202-3.html

[ a 5-5-7 haiku ]

3)

Libel

A grand jury has indicted
Strom Thurmond and six
congressional employees
on sex abuse charges.

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20021204_1538.html
http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/12/04/thurmond.birthday.reut/


From emerick at chorus.net  Thu Dec  5 01:54:32 2002
From: emerick at chorus.net (Donald L Emerick)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] new poem, this time
References: <Pine.SOL.4.44.0212042316410.4604-100000@er4.rutgers.edu>
Message-ID: <005001c29c33$9b2a48e0$c77ede42@jhh>

Inspectors Gadget and Gotcha

In the land of Gad and Goshen
inspectors gadabout a great town
looking to destroy mass weapons
when and where they find them.

They pull down strong walls,
hoping to find hidden rooms;
they dig up dusty graveyards,
in case caskets could turn over
in their graves into weapons
of new bio-bipedal-terrorism;
they scrape cobwebbed halls
looking for traces of motion.

Their hands seek each other,
failing to clasp in a handshake,
and find nothing agrees to them,
to their prodding and prying,
probing and spying WMD search.

Someone alert should mention
the Tale of Hunting the Snarks,
how this task assigned to them
may not be fulfilled successfully
because the Snarks do not exist.

And, they, too, wring their hands,
like Pilate, perhaps, to explain
how innocent people may die
for the good of the great empire:
personal guilt does not matter
when empire's reputation is bet,
wrongly, by the imperial agents.

The Imperial Clown of Potomac
has decreed "Guilt shall be found,
even if we have to make it up --
a crowned Clown can do no wrong"
when speaking, extra cathedrally,
to His Nation for the sake of power.

"If we find weapons, we bomb them;
If we find no weapons, they hid them --
we shall have to bomb those deceivers
for their obvious non-compliances."
The statements announce unconditionals
for a state of war was meant to fall
on them for their being insolent there,
by being there at all, where our oil is.

Inspectors Gadget and Gotcha
are Heralds of the time of war:
Dark Angels sent out to announce
that no repentance is desired,
as no redemption is possible,
that death and destruction come
on the wings of an evil morning
when Ol '666 gets up to roll out
his warbirds for his warhawks:
on pigeons and doves they feed.

It'd be a strange world council,
indeed, were no weapons found,
that called these delusional accusers
criminally insane, dangerously mad,
and demanded Bush and Blair submit
to UN psychiatric inspection teams --
and also indicted, on same suspicion,
madnesses in self-sustaining legislatures
which show no rational perceptions
of vast gulfs between fears and realities,
nor sought to know which was which,
whenever political lives were at stake.

Thanks for listening,
Donald L Emerick



From futrelle at shout.net  Thu Dec  5 09:57:52 2002
From: futrelle at shout.net (Joe Futrelle)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] old newspoem
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.44.0212031937280.612-100000@er4.rutgers.edu>
References: <Pine.SOL.4.44.0212031937280.612-100000@er4.rutgers.edu>
Message-ID: <p05111b0cba1527d320b2@[141.142.96.16]>

At 7:41 PM -0500 12/3/2002, Geoffrey Kurtz wrote:
>Below is an old and yellowed (as it were) newspoem that I wrote last
>January, never sent, and forgot. I found it yesterday while I was looking
>for something else in my hard drive. Are outdated newspoems still of
>interest?

totally.  come one come all

>
>--Geoff
>
>___________________________
>
>
>
>"More Than $4.5 Billion Pledged in Afghan Aid Effort"
>(New York Times, January 22, 2002)
>
>Expand.
>Winter ended.
>Nations replaced themselves.
>All donned new colors today.
>We had pledged to design strange poems.
>More than a $4.50 notebook can hold, though we won't bill.
>Instead of only overhashing fights we've had for years: sprout forums and
>      theories!
>Rebuses and unyielding puzzles offend, but abcdefgh is an inefficient
>      start for new politics: art heckles, naturally.
>How often have words molded capitalism's attributes, prevented
>      annihilation, or silenced the terrific horrors of instantly
>      attractive art hacks?
>Poems niggled structures here until they crumbled statues, they imploded
>      guesses, maddened old neithers, and fiery striped days offered
>      alternative works and dances.
>My internal rational adorational orators conferred, fenced, heroically
>      became colossal, bet omeletes, in-gathering annotated uncles
>      (doggone it!) also finally making the World Bank and the United
>      Nations just that.
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Newspoetry maillist  -  Newspoetry@lists.groogroo.com
>http://lists.cu.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/newspoetry


-- 
Joe Futrelle
Person


From emerick at chorus.net  Thu Dec  5 12:20:35 2002
From: emerick at chorus.net (Donald L Emerick)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Final poems?
References: <BA1447A0.1448A%gavroche@gavroche.org>
Message-ID: <005701c29c8b$0657cdc0$a27fde42@jhh>

Of Men and Mice, II

I choose among two choices,
which edge to sharpen next,
and which one to blunt dully,
a stone ax strikes stone ages,
to fell them from their holds.

The rat who gave his ass
knew that giving a rat's ass
about anything controversial
was quite pointless sacrifice.

Yesterday, mouse squeaked
about his fatigue-color fears,
how undistinguished he'd be
if he found a nice hidey-hole,
from which to sally forth safely
when searching for morsels,
avoiding the few nine-lied cats,
graciously strewn lazy sprawls,
furring, purring, sleeking softly,
who bemusedly tease and toy
with their prey before killing.

Today, though, man speaks
about his fear-colored fatigues,
about how distinguished he'd be
were he to find a nice hidey-hole,
in which was hiding some weapon,
a hole a blond hero would plug,
stuff it with an incendiary bomb,
allow its one shining memento,
in flaming last memories of life;
they'd give the man in fatigues
all praise, honor and glory,
to kill other men as mice.

Tomorrow, the wily rat says,
I'll think my way past this maze
which confuses me every day.
Just then, the hidden trap snaps
its yawning indifferent jaws of life,
jars death free to be, jerkily, itself.
Rat spasmodically twitches his tail
one last time in awed recognition
of the beauty of such a scheming.

Thanks for listening,
Donald L Emerick


From inskeep at alexia.lis.uiuc.edu  Thu Dec  5 16:23:06 2002
From: inskeep at alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Carol Inskeep)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Re: [Peace-discuss] Three Peace Carols for A.W.A.R.E.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10212041151550.2626-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.4.10.10212051620550.187424-100000@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu>

carolers for peace practice monday night at danielle's house on illinois
at 7pm.  (i promise to give you a house number in my next email!)

join us to learn some peace songs and sing them thursday at the urbana
celebration on thursday night.

let me know if you're coming!

thanks,
carol
344-9155





From nickm at linc.cis.upenn.edu  Thu Dec  5 19:54:56 2002
From: nickm at linc.cis.upenn.edu (Nick Montfort)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Questions & Answers
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212031736000.29426-100000@staff3.cso.uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0212052049001.29467-100000@linc.cis.upenn.edu>


                 Questions & Answers


 Why was the child's face covered with a white cloth?

 When did security become more valuable than liberty?

 What is the only country in the world that has attacked
  with nuclear weapons?

 When people go shopping in Iraq, are they being patriotic?

 If corporations can't be either good or evil, can armies
  be good or evil?

                      * * * * *

 Because no one else would ever even try.

 I can't get inside her mind; maybe she was doing it
  for a thrill.

 Because they too are human beings.

 Because our culture would fall into eternal stupor
  if that was all people ever read.

 Since there is still beauty in the darkness.


-Nick Montfort
 http://nickm.com  nickm@nickm.com



From rettberg at eliterature.org  Thu Dec  5 22:46:20 2002
From: rettberg at eliterature.org (Scott Rettberg)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Oh fuck it newspoetry lost
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0212052049001.29467-100000@linc.cis.upenn.edu>
Message-ID: <BA1595CB.1C858%rettberg@eliterature.org>

Oh fuck it newspoetry lost

I mean man oh I am about to go making
line
breaks
again newspoetry lost that
Futrelle guy we were counting on him because his last name was so close to
the Future
oh fuck it man
newspoetry lost it failed to disrupt the rightwing turn to the
right
so
fuck it woman
newspoetry lost it turned out our scrawlings turned out to be no
thing
and I blame it on the Futrelle because goddammit the guy had vision and
newspoetry lost it man
I'm sitting in a bar
a bar in New York City
a bar in Philadelphia
a bar in Santa Barbara
a bar in Chicago
a bar in Urbana
a bar in my right
butt
cheek
newspoetry lost man it
lost big
the republicans
did you know that the bar owners in
England are
called
publicans? you knew that but what I'm saying
and I was trying to say that with a lower
case I but Microsoft prevented me is
that newspoetry lost god
dam
mit
and 
fucking re:
publicans
won
and I'm not crying in my beer
that's just salt water
dude
newspoetry lost
how many newspoems were lost?
well count the dead dear motherfucker
I'm sorry about that
Bill Gates keeps correcting my mistakes
newspoetry lost my friend
in the war against terror
terror won
terror one
newspoetry lost
how many newspoems were lost?
you can count them in each
individual
life
that
was
lost
my
friend
more
than
a
hundred
less
than
a trillion
FUCK

Newspoetry failed
to stop war.

Newspoetry failed
to guarantee universal health.

Newspoetry failed
to get a living wage for all American workers.

Newspoetry failed
to always be entertaining.

Newspoetry failed
to give candy.

You miss newspoetry?

shut up man

I miss newspoetry.

don't mention that

Because it was important that--

you'll get us killed

people expressed.

WHAP BOOM BAMM

I miss newspoetry.



From gavroche at gavroche.org  Fri Dec  6 00:25:08 2002
From: gavroche at gavroche.org (John)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] One More for the Road
Message-ID: <BA159EE3.144FA%gavroche@gavroche.org>

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/06/nyregion/06ASSE.html

Wilding Revisited

Over a decade ago
'Wilding' entered our vocabulary.
No longer will it mean
what we've taken it to mean til now.

Today we learn in the news
the boys confessed to a crime
they didn't commit.
The real perpetrator has been found.

One who remembers exact details
thirteen years later
better than the boys could
a week after the fact.

Difficult questions
are beginning to be asked.
Teens are known for their penchant
to exaggerate their accomplishments;

Why were they arrested
and other suspects ignored?


From Mhubertw at aol.com  Fri Dec  6 11:16:15 2002
From: Mhubertw at aol.com (Mhubertw@aol.com)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] NEWSPOETRY SELECTION FOR 10-4-02, "LOST BETWEEN HIS EARS"
Message-ID: <4c.157aa650.2b22355f@aol.com>

ONCE AGAIN NEWSPOETRY.COM WAS AHEAD OF THE NEWS CURVE.
THIS IS TODAY IN HONOR OF THE SOARING UNEMPLOYMENT RATE AND THE RESIGNATION 
OF THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY.  (I DID NOT KNOW WE HAD A SECRETARY OF THE 
TREASURY.  I THOUGHT THE POSITION WAS VACANT - JUST LIKE THAT FREQUENT 
EXPRESSION ON GWB'S FACE!)
NEWSPOETRY.COM IS NEEDED NOW MORE THAN EVER!
MARK WILSON
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From gillespi at uiuc.edu  Fri Dec  6 15:30:22 2002
From: gillespi at uiuc.edu (William Gillespie)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:51 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Pretentious art scene in Urbana tonight
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212061518130.10941-100000@staff3.cso.uiuc.edu>

I'm going to 2 Main at 6 to let these 44 North people know who they're
dealing with. Drop on by, I'll be holding down the freak table. We can
introduce these visionary real estate developers to the ecstasy of
electronic political poetry.

Another example of what I was writing about in "The President's
Poetry."Check out www.40North.org. They got a flash splash page, they got
a cyan identity set, but click on... just about anything... as I said
before, whatever arts projects these organizations are getting IAC
funding to support are closely guarded secrets. Very suspicious... Whither
content?

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 19:35:14 -0600
From: Robert Porter <bwp61@POPD.ix.netcom.com>
To: William Gillespie <gillespi@uiuc.edu>
Subject: Fwd: Cocktails 'n Culture with 40 North

William,

More mysterious movements from the shadowy 40 North.  Extremely long
address list deleted.

-- Bob

>Status:  U
>Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 16:53:05 EST
>Subject: Fwd: Cocktails 'n Culture with 40 North
>To: ...
>Hope to see you all there.
>
>Bring a friend to TWO Main and get the 411 on 40 North.  On Friday,
>December 6, Two Main will host 40 North/88 West, the Champaign
>County Arts, Culture & Entertainment Council in its "Serve With Us"
>series from 6-10pm.
>The event will be a chance for artists and arts enthusiasts to get
>information on 40 North and become involved in the local arts scene.
>This is an excellent opportunity for artists to network with each
>other, with arts organizations and to get to know the local business
>community.  In addition, artists of all disciplines are invited to
>sign up, free of charge, for a listing in 40 North's artist
>database.  Enjoy the high energy sounds of Green Mountain Grass and
>the work of local visual artist, Michael Sherfield.  More
>information on Green Mountain Grass can be found at
>www.greenmountaingrass.com.


From emerick at chorus.net  Fri Dec  6 15:38:07 2002
From: emerick at chorus.net (Donald L Emerick)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] It's W-all over now (when isn't it?)
Message-ID: <003d01c29d6f$c5535a20$f87fde42@jhh>

It's W-all over now (when isn't it?)

Al Qaeda in Lebanon and Gaza, Sharon Says
(In passing words, the story notes:)
The government <of> said Mr. Sharon
had given the go-ahead for <of>
further construction of a security fence
in northern Israel to wall off
Israeli residents from militants
<as if no Israeli were a militant>
trying to enter Israel from the West Bank
<as if all militants are on West Bank>.
NewYorkTimes on the Web 12/06/02.
******************************************* 

An iron curtain is an iron curtain,
whether it walls people in or out;
one-sided walls keep people apart.

Segregation's ugly race shows no face.

******************************************

Can news be reported without bias?
Should news say what is not said
so that, when no news is good news,
at least its evil can be exposed,
in part, right then and there,
for the evil that it actually is,
when something happens to people,
a something that we call government,
as if such an entrenched euphemism
were the greatest racial prejudice?


Thanks for listening,
Donald L Emerick



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From gavroche at gavroche.org  Sat Dec  7 15:13:04 2002
From: gavroche at gavroche.org (gavroche@gavroche.org)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] It's W-all over now (when isn't it?)
In-Reply-To: <003d01c29d6f$c5535a20$f87fde42@jhh>
References: <003d01c29d6f$c5535a20$f87fde42@jhh>
Message-ID: <E18KmFk-000Js0-00@relay1.hrnoc.net>

Noted News Poet Robert Frost wrote about this years ago in his newspoem:
Mending Wall

"Before I built a wall I'd ask to know
what I was walling in or walling out
and to whom I was like to give offense.
Something there is that doesn't love a wall
that wants it down."

Unfortunatley, the muggles who read poetry and don't understand it often come
away from Frost's poem only remembering the line of the narrator's neighbor. 
The line Frost and the narrator was reacting against.  "Good fences make good
neighbors."

It's frustrating to hear a line from a poem being used to support the thesis
against which the poem was railing.  It means one of my own poems could be
used thusly in the future, and it makes me very nervous about what I write.

A wall might appear to Israel as its best solution.  Since the Palestinians
won't negotiate a land-for-peace settlement, unilaterally divide up the land
with a wall, and declare the issue settled.  Along with Frost and Emerick,
though, I'm not sure a wall is ever the best answer.



From jnlshppn at prairienet.org  Sat Dec  7 20:41:50 2002
From: jnlshppn at prairienet.org (Joan Nelshoppen)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Re: [Peace-discuss] Three Peace Carols for A.W.A.R.E.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10212041151550.2626-100000@bluestem.prairien
 et.org>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212041124590.19219-100000@che.onthejob.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.5.2.20021207204045.0277b3d0@prairienet.org>

Great job!
To the writers of these lyrics, I really like them and will be using them 
with my kids.  Thank you!
Joan


At 12:06 PM 12/4/02 -0600, Paul Kotheimer wrote:
>Earthly Peace
>(to the tune of "Silent Night")
>
>Peace on Earth!  Freedom from fear
>for ev'ry child in ev'ry year.
>No more sorrows for soldiers lost.
>No more starving to cover the cost.
>So the world could be.
>So the world could be.
>
>Peace on Earth?  Here in our hands
>rests the power.  Let us make demands.
>No more bombers and no more lies.
>No more fire over foreign skies.
>Let our consequence be
>Peace in Two thousand and three.
>
>
>
>A Thousand Generations
>(to the tune of "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen")
>
>A thousand generations have sent their sons to war,
>but we could be the first to say they won't go anymore.
>A dream of worldwide peace is what these holidays are for.
>It is we who can make this dream come true.  It can come true.
>If you want an end to war, it's up to you.
>
>
>
>WE LOVE PEACE
>(a peace carol especially for kids, with help from Kate and Charlotte
>Popetz, to the tune of "Jingle Bells")
>
>I want peace.  You want peace.  Everyone wants peace.
>Grandmas, grandpas, moms and dads and little kids want peace, so
>Sing out loud, sing out strong!  Say, "NO MORE" to war,
>So little kids around the world won't be scared anymore!
>
>
>
>On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Danielle Chynoweth wrote:
>
> > Friends,
> >
> > The 32nd annual Peace Bazaar is about a week and a half away. As most of
> > you know, the Peace Bazaar sells gifts (new and recycled), baked goods,
> > chocolates, UNICEF cards and calendars, household items, furniture, toys,
> > books, plants, gift certificates to local restaurants and businesses, and
> > several works by local artists.
> >
> > The 32nd annual Peace Bazaar will be held Saturday, December 14th from 9
> > a.m. to 3 p.m. at Community United Church of Christ. CUCC is at 6th and
> > Daniel Street in Champaign.
> >
> > All funds raised from the Peace Bazaar go to groups supporting Peace and
> > Social Justice. This year the recipients include Eastern Illinois Foodbank,
> > the BOAST Academy after-school program, the Progressive Resource Action
> > Cooperative, the Independent Media Canter, Voices in the Wilderness,
> > Witness for Peace, and Amnesty International USA.  Last year the Peace
> > Bazaar was able to donate $3180 to six peace and justice groups, with each
> > receiving $530. We hope to raise as much or more this year.
> >
> > You can help make this possible by:
> >
> > a) donating items to sell. Do you have things that you don't want or need
> > anymore or things that just aren't your style but that are too good to be
> > thrown away? Would those items make a good gift or be something someone
> > else could use? Consider recycling your extras through the Peace Bazaar.
> > We'd be happy to take your excess clutter.  Please see the end of this note
> > for items we do and do not accept as donations.  Donations can be dropped
> > off at 412 W Oregon St in Urbana or call 344-7942 to arrange for pick-up of
> > larger donations.
> >
> > b) getting the word out about the Bazaar. Please let your interested
> > friends know that it is happening Dec. 14th. Posters are available or feel
> > free to copy this e-mail to friends.
> >
> > c) come shopping on Dec. 14th between 9 a.m. and 3 p.m. We always have some
> > spectacular deals and treasures waiting to be found. Saturday Dec. 14th at
> > Community United Church of Christ at 6th and Daniel Streets in
> > Champaign.  Best selection is at 9 am.  Half-price sale starts at 1
> > p.m.  Come to the Bazaar.  You'll be glad you did.
> >
> > d) volunteering. Volunteers are always welcome and are what makes this
> > event happen. Two hours of your time can make a big difference. E-mail
> > jnlshppn@prairienet.org or call 344-7942.
> >
> > UNICEF cards and calendars will be available at the Peace Bazaar. If you
> > would like to get yours earlier, they are also on sale at the campus YMCA
> > during lunch hours between now and Dec 13th.  Call 344-7942 or e-mail
> > jnlshppn@prairienet.org for more info.
> >
> > If you'd like additional information about donations, posters,
> > volunteering, UNICEF merchandise, the groups being funded, etc. please
> > e-mail jnlshppn@prairienet.org or call 344-7942.
> >
> > Thanks for reading this lengthy note. Hope to see you on Dec. 14th
> > Joan Nelshoppen
> > Claire Szoke
> > co-coordinators Peace Bazaar
> >
> >
> > Items we accept for donation:
> > Decorative items, toys, pottery, ceramics, dishes, cookware, pasta makers,
> > bread makers and other small kitchen appliances, ceramics, baked goods,
> > hand-made crafts, household items, antiques, house plants, works by local
> > artists, gift certificates to local restaurants and businesses, sports
> > equipment, musical instruments, multicultural art, handspun and woven
> > scarves, hats, and wraps, sweaters suitable for giving as gifts, children's
> > books, cook books, coffee table books, gardening books, recently published
> > fiction, furniture, microwaves, televisions (Please call first about
> > donations of furniture, microwaves, televisions or other large items.)
> >
> > Please do NOT donate the following:
> > Used clothing (exception: nice sweaters), shoes, computer equipment, broken
> > items, magazines, text books, encyclopedia sets, coffee mugs (unless in a
> > matching set), violent toys including toy soldiers, action figures with
> > weapons, toy guns, and kits for building models of bomber aircraft or tanks
> >
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> > http://che.onthejob.net/mailman/listinfo/sdas
> >
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From william at spinelessbooks.com  Sun Dec  8 16:01:12 2002
From: william at spinelessbooks.com (Spineless Books)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] our fans up over
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0212051359070.13061-100000@duracef.shout.net>

>
> newspoetry.com is ending its poem-a-day mission at the end of the
> year. Last chance to write us a poem about Toronto news.
>

oy.... toronto news is so disheartening.
but i'll see what i can do- mebbe enlist a little help.
newspoetry is awe-inspiring. sad to see it come to an end.
and http://www.haikooties.com/ is no substitute




From sascha at ucimc.org  Sun Dec  8 18:41:11 2002
From: sascha at ucimc.org (Sascha Meinrath)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] so let's say you're a reverend...
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212081835030.18467-100000@imsahp>

...and you're marrying some friends of yours down in, well, i don't
know... texas.  and just to add some spice to the event, let's say that
the bride's father is a southern baptist minister -- and the groom's
parents are sort of more on the hippie end of things.  and now, you're
supposed to find a "really good" reading for the ceremony about love --
something that's not sappy, gives folks something to think about and
reflect upon, and is _not_ religious.

what do you do???

that's really what i'd like to know.  any suggestions?  i'm not sure
exactly where to turn for info, but thought y'all (note the texan lingo)
might have ideas.

--sascha


From gavroche at gavroche.org  Mon Dec  9 01:20:04 2002
From: gavroche at gavroche.org (John)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] so let's say you're a reverend...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212081835030.18467-100000@imsahp>
Message-ID: <BA19A043.145CC%gavroche@gavroche.org>

It sounds to me like you need a collection of classic love poetry

http://www.theromantic.com/poetryclassic/main.htm


> ....and you're marrying some friends of yours down in, well, i don't
> know... texas.  and just to add some spice to the event, let's say that
> the bride's father is a southern baptist minister -- and the groom's
> parents are sort of more on the hippie end of things.  and now, you're
> supposed to find a "really good" reading for the ceremony about love --
> something that's not sappy, gives folks something to think about and
> reflect upon, and is _not_ religious.
> 
> what do you do???
> 
> that's really what i'd like to know.  any suggestions?  i'm not sure
> exactly where to turn for info, but thought y'all (note the texan lingo)
> might have ideas.


From emerick at chorus.net  Mon Dec  9 01:36:01 2002
From: emerick at chorus.net (Donald L Emerick)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] so let's say you're a reverend...
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212081835030.18467-100000@imsahp>
Message-ID: <000601c29f55$a0e82480$5e7ede42@jhh>

We used cummings as our love-offering poet
at a Methodist-officiated ceremony in St Louis
some 25 to 30 years ago... one that bleats
"i thank you god, for most this amazing day..."
affirmative poetry is nigh unto religion...

but, I also thought of using
some rambling Whitman piece,
Leaves of Grass, America sings
of people-mad into crowds,
as one pursuing for itself alone,
apart from persons present in it,
though they be indispensable for it,
mobbing weighs through all obstacles,
imperfect and erring, restlessly flowing on,
a thought I regret not having employed
since his god is nearer to my present god
than one which cumming's bespake--

but, gods are like cars and spare tires,
used mostly to run over and slay unholy enemies
except when some big wheel goes flat,
and a spare tire must be hauled out:
mob leadership may undergo regime change
which is often no change of regime at all,
but a change in the name of the same king--
an interchangeable world full of such parts
for some strange perpetuating motion machine:
king is dead, king is dead, so long lives king;

these appear only in emergencies of all kinds,
and often, now, are unfit for longer joy rides --
and like love that a wedding celebrates --
though often absent, quite unmissed,
as some actual embodied presence
who brings home peace and plenty,
as peace is some kind of learning
that more would never be enough:
where one never wants any more,
there is love and peace and plenty;

things of the spirit, or the soul,
shine forth rarely in most daily rituals,
which go on trying to make ends meet,
which sounds deceptively easy, but
we lose sight of what we join together,
to form closed circuits of meted ends;

life is like water in a leaky bucket,
constantly oozing and dripping,
slowly emptying itself, voiding itself,
ever needing renewal, spring fresh--
some new water diluting sediments
which ever grow crustier and saltier;

ways of life avert while they control
by abnormal nourishings
for momentary flourishings:
dust-bowls, barren deserts
and forbidding wastelands
briefly blossom and growing live,
in entangled gardens of living love
which can not be self-sustaining
but are still worthy, unobtaining,
as a whole that we already are:
we haunt us, we come back to us,
we know us in our loves from afar.

Thanks for listening
Donald L Emerick

(And my above-saying poem is also a love-offering,
suitable for reverend use though differently religioned,
as it speaks for me, and is wholly replaced by you.)


From gavroche at gavroche.org  Mon Dec  9 01:50:10 2002
From: gavroche at gavroche.org (John)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] so let's say you're a reverend...
In-Reply-To: <000601c29f55$a0e82480$5e7ede42@jhh>
Message-ID: <BA19A751.145D1%gavroche@gavroche.org>

> We used cummings as our love-offering poet
> at a Methodist-officiated ceremony in St Louis
> some 25 to 30 years ago... one that bleats
> "i thank you god, for most this amazing day..."
> affirmative poetry is nigh unto religion...

i thank You God for most this amazing
day: for the leaping greenly spirits of trees
and a blue true dream of sky; and for everything
which is natural which is infinite which is yes

(i who have died am alive again today,
and this is the sun's birthday; this is the birth
day of life and love and wings: and of the gay
great happening illimitably earth)

how should tasting touching hearing seeing
breathing any - lifted from the no
of all nothing - human merely being
doubt unimaginable You?

(now the ears of my ears awake and
now the eyes of my eyes are opened)

This poem appears in the collection of poetry at the back of my prayer book,
but poetry from a lot of different sources appears there.  It has both a
religious feel, as it thanks God, but its generic and "nature-oriented" so
hippie parents should approve too.

ee cummings also wrote:

love is more thicker than forget
more thinner than recall
more seldom than a wave is wet
more frequent than to fail
it is most mad and moonly
and less it shall unbe
than all the sea which only
is deeper than the sea
love is less always than to win
less never than alive
less bigger than the least begin
less littler than forgive
it is most sane and sunly
and more it connot die
than all the sky which only
is higher than the sky



From emerick at chorus.net  Mon Dec  9 02:16:00 2002
From: emerick at chorus.net (Donald L Emerick)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] It's W-all over now (when isn't it?)
References: <003d01c29d6f$c5535a20$f87fde42@jhh> <E18KmFg-0001FI-00@relay2.hrnoc.net>
Message-ID: <002d01c29f5b$363860e0$5e7ede42@jhh>

Of course, I was thinking
(how could I not be thinking)
of Frost's anti-Wall poem:
off the wall is my primal mode
for thinking, which is emoting,
for I feel how things are;
thinking feels it way forward
through feelings it may truly have
only by knowing them to be there,
where they are encountered,
in the flow of current things,
and, at the same time, thinking
is remembering what is proper
to each feeling, so that none rules,
just because it screams loudest,
just because it whines longest,
just because it would forget
how it may be responsible
for its own pained present:
real wounds may be badly treated
in many ways by bad doctors
who exacerbate extant harms.

I think how repression occurs,
as how civic psychosis appears,
as willingness for partial truths,
a willingness to tolerate lies,
when they serve some purpose
of the state, the king, or a career
to advance its own self-interests,
regardless of truth as other obstacles,

The first thing they do,
before they build prison walls,
is shoot all the jailhouse lawyers,
as if they wanted no arguments
which point to possible errors:
and they call this total tort "reform"
when they bar you from suing them:
henceforth, courts one-sidedly serve
as instruments of a class oppression.

Every wall falls one-sidedly down--
after it falls,
one may only imagine the other side;
before it falls,
there was no side there at all:

We wrongly let common sense tell us,
there must be another side to this wall,
when, for all common sense knows,
this boundary fence may be Moebian
or have some other plain topology,
nothing Euclidean could be certain here--
a one-sided assumption stone-walls
a one-sided assumption; stone walls.

Thanks for listening
at this wailing wall,
which Israel builds for people
to wail against unwillingly...
Donald L Emerick


From gavroche at gavroche.org  Mon Dec  9 19:39:17 2002
From: gavroche at gavroche.org (John)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Living in Mr Cheney's Neighborhood is a blast
Message-ID: <BA1AA1E5.1461F%gavroche@gavroche.org>

Neighbors of Vice President Dick Cheney are being shaken and rattled at
least once a day by mysterious blasts on the grounds of the U.S. Naval
Observatory where Cheney lives,

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/South/12/08/noisy.neighbor.ap/index.html




From rebelmike at earthlink.net  Mon Dec  9 22:53:24 2002
From: rebelmike at earthlink.net (Mike Lehman)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Living in Mr Cheney's Neighborhood is a blast
References: <BA1AA1E5.1461F%gavroche@gavroche.org>
Message-ID: <3DF57344.346F480D@earthlink.net>

It's the all-bean diet that Cheney's on for his heart condition. You
oughta be around when he's in one of the "undisclosed lcoation"
bunkers...
Or maybe not.

Mike

John wrote:
> 
> Neighbors of Vice President Dick Cheney are being shaken and rattled at
> least once a day by mysterious blasts on the grounds of the U.S. Naval
> Observatory where Cheney lives,
> 
> http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/South/12/08/noisy.neighbor.ap/index.html
>


From william at spinelessbooks.com  Tue Dec 10 11:04:13 2002
From: william at spinelessbooks.com (Spineless Books)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] From PW Newsline:
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0212101041060.13628-100000@duracef.shout.net>

-----------------------------------------------------------
Best of the Web: Writers State Department Payroll, Date Judith Regan

Four Pulitzer Prize winners, Michael Chabon, Robert Olen Butler,
historian David Herbert Donald and Richard Ford; the American poet
laureate, Billy Collins; two Arab-Americans, Naomi Shihab Nye and
Elmaz Abinader; and Robert Pinsky, Charles Johnson, Bharati Mukherjee
and Sven Birkerts--what do these writers have in common? They're all
working for the State Department, according to the New York Times.

The writers have contributed to an anthology of essays edited by the
State Department on the subject of being an American writer that will
be distributed though American embassies abroad.

The article is online here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/07/arts/07WRIT.html
The essays can be read here:
http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/writers

---




From rebelmike at earthlink.net  Tue Dec 10 11:25:59 2002
From: rebelmike at earthlink.net (Mike Lehman)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] From PW Newsline:
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0212101041060.13628-100000@duracef.shout.net>
Message-ID: <3DF623A7.324A0F92@earthlink.net>

So this is, like, government-issue Newspoetry?

Does it come in a green can or in one of those yellow packages that
resemble cluster bombs?

I guess writers are that much of a threat when the government has to
generate such material.
Mike

Spineless Books wrote:
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Best of the Web: Writers State Department Payroll, Date Judith Regan
> 
> Four Pulitzer Prize winners, Michael Chabon, Robert Olen Butler,
> historian David Herbert Donald and Richard Ford; the American poet
> laureate, Billy Collins; two Arab-Americans, Naomi Shihab Nye and
> Elmaz Abinader; and Robert Pinsky, Charles Johnson, Bharati Mukherjee
> and Sven Birkerts--what do these writers have in common? They're all
> working for the State Department, according to the New York Times.
> 
> The writers have contributed to an anthology of essays edited by the
> State Department on the subject of being an American writer that will
> be distributed though American embassies abroad.
> 
> The article is online here:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/07/arts/07WRIT.html
> The essays can be read here:
> http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/writers
>


From emerick at chorus.net  Tue Dec 10 13:08:54 2002
From: emerick at chorus.net (Donald L Emerick)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] From PW Newsline:
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0212101041060.13628-100000@duracef.shout.net>
Message-ID: <001d01c2a07f$96c9e620$417fde42@jhh>

Prelude's Reaction Logic
Well, now, fellow theatrical thaumaturgs:
this tells us who is in and out of power --
a reigning poet laureate has endorsed it --
so it can not possibly be wrong to think --
that being an American writer is distinctively
neither unAmerican nor underwritten noises

you could be an American and not be a writer
you could be a writer and not be an American
but you could never be an American writer
unless you fit the mold of what officials say

surely, any state-sponsored writer who says
an American can be a writer, too, is wrong --
as every newspoet knows this to be otherwise


NewsPoem's Proper Body of Action
a writer has no nation, no people, nothing
that belongs to him nor do they own him
they can only disown and disavow him
they do this when he writes against them
against grains in their gringo characters,
and grunts, groans, grinds, grins grandly
and says wipe that smile off your face
it's not that funny; it's not funny at all
and your laughing doesn't make it better
your laughing is indecorous, not solemn
it shows contempt for contemptible states
it shows no respect; it is insubordination
mutiny, rebellion, revolution, newspoetry.

we don't let your kind be served here
we only want brown-lipped ass-kissers here
psychophants, we adore you in your writings
when you tell us how marvelous it is to be us

the unamerican writer can't be written about
not by any of those who sell sex and power
to people with too much money to use wisely
they restlessly seek ultimate sadistic pleasures
of domination by forcing all others to submit,
conquest becomes a jaded imperial appetite
hunger gnaws at its own empty conscience
it bites hands that feed clothe shelter nurture it
it chews and swallows its victim whole in meals

tale of Stalin well describes imperial mindsets:
he feted guests with honor at his banquets,
and, sometimes, when the feast was done,
the doors to the party room would open up
to admit guards rushing in to seize said guest
to haul him out roughly and unceremoniously
and to stand him before a convenient wall
shoot him full of butter-ball bullets for dessert.
it is said, by those who survived such dinners,
that enormous laughter, surely nervous laughter,
exploded in the festive banquet feasting hall
as happy bullets ripped a useless life away.

You couldn't say any of this in Stalinastan
not if you wanted to live a Russian writer
which let you be neither writer nor Russian.

We are designing great neural networks,
here in America, to find anyone inclined
to disagree with the state's point of view
as to how glorious it is to be an American,
and how precarious any writer has to be --
and we have already written the laws
to let you be feted, seized, arrested, shot
on the mere whim of the ones in power;
this, too, shall be enormously amusing,
more entertaining than cop-prop shows
which American writers write americanly
who'd have nothing to do with humanity.


Postludicrous Abreaction
Well, now, no hyperbolization is needed,
problems we face are not as bad as all that,
we'll do things the american way to writers,
we'll starve them to death, disemploy them,
document their nonconformative tendencies,
let them be discriminated against lawfully,
the way we did it under McCarthy's laws:
we make no one publicly wear yellow stars,
here in America: we make them wear red stars,
red badges of courage, scarlet red letters read.

Enlightened people live in enchanted worlds.

Thanks for listening,
Donald L Emerick


From emerick at chorus.net  Tue Dec 10 13:24:27 2002
From: emerick at chorus.net (Donald L Emerick)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Living in Mr Cheney's Neighborhood is a blast
References: <BA1AA1E5.1461F%gavroche@gavroche.org> <3DF57344.346F480D@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <002e01c2a081$c2f29ba0$417fde42@jhh>

Mr. Cheney's Roger-Dodger NeighborHoods

If we had any treaty partners left with stamina to object
they would lodge violation protests and complain that
we are conducting forbidden underground nuclear tests
in the basements of Cheney's vice-presidential mansion...

and demand that the presidential palace compounds,
like Camp David, Cheney Palace, White-Wash Place,
the big crawfish crawling ranch out in Crawford Texas,
the happy little hooterville home in Kennebunkport ME,
and other spots our ever-vacationing presidency haunts --
too numerous to mention, to be sure, and all quiet on-set
they are stars in a National Lampoon vacation movie:
where all that they do wrong is laughably endearing,
and where nothing in the comedy could turn out badly --
be searched like those remote presidential palaces in Iraq
in which once cavorted G.H.W. Bush, old number 43,
now better known by his namesake, USS GHW BUSH.

Thanks for listening
Donald L Emerick



From emerick at chorus.net  Tue Dec 10 15:28:51 2002
From: emerick at chorus.net (Donald L Emerick)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Terminal PsychoLogics for PsychoLinguists Today
Message-ID: <000c01c2a093$27440100$9f7ede42@jhh>

Terminal PsychoLogics for PsychoLinguists Today

The language of insanity is spoken by the insane
yet no tongue speaks of insanity in any language

Language, which is yet to be spoken, is spoken for
language has taken positions before it was spoken.

A madman said to me, "The world makes me mad"
as if he could explain to me why he was mad now,
how he was mad now, that he was mad now,
and also madder than he had ever been before,
surely a subjective contemplative consideration
that invites quiet comparison with other times
when he was not, by his own admissions,
so nearly mad as he purports to be now.

When he said "The world makes me mad",
I wondered at the underlying character of madness;
I marvelled that he could think that I could believe
a paradoxical statement of that kind of logic;
Surely any statement like this denies itself truth,
for the liar can not truthfully be saying "I lie"
and truthsayers, as if drugged, must say "I never lie".

A little problem of language deficiency yawns open
its wide sleepy mouth to say, just here, "I am tired"
and want to swallow back these thoughts in words:
what do I say of there not being a fitting word here,
right where I want a phase to oppose neatly "I lie"?

It goes without saying, this unopposed opposition;
language already assumes that I truly speak it,
I negate it when I intend its default be otherwise:
statements are true, when said, unless otherwise said,
in which case they are not to be believed as denials,
for they deny themselves the grounds of any truths.

A madman does not speak any language of insanity.
Then, who speaks any language of any madness?

Madmen speak no mad language as none speak it:
it can only be said of another's otherwise language:
it's mad and he's mad, but he does know not it so:
no madman can say, truthfully, that he's quite mad.

And another can not calm the madman, soothingly,
by saying, "Alrighty, then, I believe you: you're mad."

Thanks for listening
Donald L Emerick
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From emerick at chorus.net  Wed Dec 11 01:46:40 2002
From: emerick at chorus.net (Donald L Emerick)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Lotta's tromping on Grapes of Wrath
Message-ID: <004201c2a0e9$72508960$517ede42@jhh>

Lotta'S trom.Ping on Grapes of Wrath

Someday I shall find out why
we have this clumsy phrase
of tongue: the grapes of wrath,
which is, I suppose, Biblical
because Greeks loved grapes
and they wrote a lotta the Bible,
or rewrote it, to please Greeks,
who had their own sense of logic
about how the world was done --
and, if so, and mind suppositions,
the Greeks knew their grapes well,
well enough to make Dionysius god,
over-rival to work-a-holic Appollos,
per Freddie Nietzsche's BirthDay song.

And, the next time I heard this phrase,
a few centuries had sprung past me,
when American Civil War was waged,
and some said that great war started
when a terrorist group seized a US fort
at Harper's Ferry, to get liberty's arms
for men willing to die for their truth --

but they failed to start the revolution,
they were caught; they were hanged --
and, smolderin' in de grave, dey go on,
for their angels tramp out the vintages
from where grapes of wrath are stored...

You see, I still know nothing of grapes,
these wrath-related grapes of Greeks--
but connections appear in our history
for Chronos waits centuries to move
some pieces while others smolder on.

And, so a few more years pass on by,
and the leader of Senate Republicans
says, "We proudly voted for ol' Strom;
none of dose troubles wudda happened
if everyone had done as we did in '48."

So I sees Ol' Trent still is smolderin'
about how de law enforces equality
between peoples of different races,
un I doan unnastan' why Ol' Trent
done went way from de Democrats
to da GOP what with Mistah Lincoln
being duh GOP slave liberator un all.

My eddicated frien' says inversions:
it's all inversions: A tries hard to be B,
un B tries even harder to be A, becuz
grass is greener on de udder sides,
they pass right through each other,
both alway tryin' to look like a party
smack dab in de middle where no one ever is.

Despite his denials, I still know Lott's mind,
I know how evil festers and corrupts a soul,
how a petty vengeful man is a great danger,
a much greater danger than other petty men:
a petty GOP party which enslaves workers
by destroying their common rights to bargain,
to bond in association with one another,
to demand fair wages for hard days of work,
to insist that wages be not robbed by prices
of supply-side monopolies and oligopolies,
for modern corporation is modern plantation,
meaning that it owes nothing to the slaves,
not even the alleged common decency
of caring for those who have born the battle
of struggling to make a go of bad-faith deals.

Corporations only rent slave labor by the hour,
so they owe nothing to any but slave owners
and to the highly favored few slave-masters
who run tenant-migrant-temporary labor camps:
so, as they do not care if millions starve in India
they also do not care if millions starve in Indiana:
that's not a problem that share-holders gave us:
already, we see what games corporations play,
by shifting production facilities from town to town,
insuring that taxes are shifted to the workers,
that pollution is shifted to the towns people,
and that none will say anything, nothing at all,
for fear the production plant will move elsewhere,
leaving older and abler workers unemployed,
leaving towns with debts on now idle facilities,
leaving air smelly, water oily, and dirt muddied.

The corporate wife, so rumor said, was a trophy:
she was not the first marriage, nor even a second:
but the gorgeous bimbo you bought when bored,
just because everyone else would be jealous,
as such a woman really meant nothing to you:
for that is the way that you like all relationships
of human beings to be: empty status symbols...

And, you wonder, then, I suppose, why I praise
the Greeks and their drunken Symposium parties
where pouring out the grapes of wrath was fun,
even if Socrates always got to sleep side by side
with best-looking, most-fair of the Greek youths
who came to taste fine wines in the four winds:
Ol' Trent, though, still would go stomping home,
smolderin' over imagined insults to his manhood:
underneath self-righteous is a smolderin' indignity,
imagined or real, but smolderin' as long as it hides,
ready to flare up, at in time, in a psychoterrorism.

I hereby advise the HomeLand Security Police
to arrest this Lott, and most of the GOP Senate,
to keep these terrorists from striking more terror
here in my heart, high in the middle of HomeLand,
when they, like Al-Kyduh, want to roll back history,
to serve ideals of racial-ethnic-cultural-cultic purity:
a terrorist must be, most of all, anti-cosmopolitan,
Thus, even many Senate Democrats are terrorists,
like Joe Lieberman who is a radical danger to us,
as NDLC (NewDemYoung Fascists Organization),
which Clintons both founded and both supported.

When you have rounded up all these usual suspects,
and quarantined them incommunicado at Guana-T-Amino
on nebulous charges that will never be prosecuted,
and, for which non-offenses, they'll never be released,
and they lie there, smolderin' in the grave of a prison,
I doubt you'll have the time or interest to bother me.

Thanks for listening
Donald L Emerick
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From: nbigelow at albawaba.com (Newton Bigelow)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] NEWSPOEM--Kola Boof, the End of Newspoetry, and a Very Oily Christmas
Message-ID: <200212112041.gBBKfqq08948@ns.albawaba.com>

Kola Boof, the End of Newspoetry, and a Very Oily Christmas


By NEWTON BIGELOW  (Associated Poets)

Dateline Madrid --

At the end of the last palindromic year this reporter expects to see in his lifetime, there is something in the air which smells of transition.  Things are changing, as they inevitably do.  One could wax poetic about the cycle of destruction and creation, the great wheel of life coming around to its end and beginning again.

One could wax poetic.  And so one shall.

Endings:  Newspoetry.com, the only website dedicated to daily rants, rhapsodies, and ridicule inspired by the news of the day, is calling it quits.  Joe Futrelle, the stalwart Editor-within-Chief has decided, quite reasonably, to devote his energies to other pursuits.  In this reporter's opinion, Newspoetry.com has been an entirely unique enterprise, an open forum with little or no exclusionary editorial policy, which has still managed to present a cohesive voice that declares, ?We will turn our outrage into art.?

Yes.

Newspoetry.com has been my home-away-from-home for nearly two years now.  For an expatriate, that is no small thing.  The cynicism and disgust which drove me to Europe still holds me here.  I left when there was a Bush in office, and I?m damned if I?ll come back while his misbegotten offspring occupies the White House.  I still get uncontrollable attacks of bile every time I see that smug, arrogant face on the front page of El Mundo.  Having said that, I have found that newspoets are an effective tonic when the attacks are at their worst.

So.

Newspoetry is dead, they say.  Long live Newspoetry!  It is my hope and belief that newspoets will continue to commit literature in the face of ignorance.  For myself, I have found that writing is a hard addiction to kick.  My dispatches from Madrid will continue, if not here than elsewhere on the internet.  I encourage all newspoets to go and do likewise.  Make your voice heard.  Tyranny loves nothing better than a silent populace.  As a better poet than I once said, ?If you don?t stand for something, you?ll go for anything.?



Beginnings:  Over the last several months, a mysterious writer named Kola Boof has  appeared as an elusive presence on the internet.  She is (or perhaps isn?t) a Sudanese national, a ?womanist? poet, an opponent of modern-day slavery, and the survivor of at least one gun battle.  Her writing celebrates the beauty and strength of African women, and condemns organized religion as man-centered and destructive.

Surprise.  I like her.

Why?  She?s an expatriate, for one thing, and we ex-pats have to stick together.  Also, despite her growing fame on the web, she?s notoriously difficult to contact in person. I understand the compulsion to speak one?s mind, offset by the deep desire to preserve one?s privacy.  Plus, the precise details of her life are oddly difficult to corroborate.  It?s almost as if she was partly fictional.  I can identify with that as well.


What next?

I?m envisioning an epidemic of writers like this, whose public lives are part of their body of work.  Kola Boof has shown that it can be done, and done well, with little more than word-of-mouth.  One of the momentous things about the web is that it gives us control over our own personas.  Feel shy about stating your opinions?  Become someone who isn?t!  



Finally:  One of the Christmas traditions here in Spain that I approve of wholeheartedly is the preparation and consumption of an enormous amount of seafood.  Until I came here, I had no idea how large a percentage of the Spanish diet came from the sea.  This is true year-round, but at Christmastime, it really gets out of hand.  I?m one of those who feels no particular affinity for religious holidays, but can enjoy some of the rituals (and food) associated with them.  Christmas in Spain has always been a joyful time for me.

Until this year.

The wreck of the oil tanker Prestige has inundated the Spanish coast with black, gooey, toxic crud.  Thousands of Spanish fisherman are now unemployed due to the massive fishkill.  President Jose Maria Aznar has not yet gotten around to visiting the disaster area personally, and the cleanup effort is progressing at an excruciatingly slow pace.  Some 60 million tonnes of oil remain in the sunken tanker?s hold, and appear to be slowly leaking out and making their way to the surface.

No fish?

This year in Spain, people are rushing around looking for alternative recipes for their Christmas dinners.  Sausage appears to be the replacement meat of choice in my neighborhood.  I may stay home and make grilled-cheese sandwiches (plus vodka).

Thus.

In a real and a metaphorical sense, this holiday season seems to be steeped in oil.  George W. Bush is bound and determined to start a war over it.  People all over the world are oppressed so that a small handful of powerful men can keep control over it.  And I?m not getting my Christmas fish dinner because of it.  Oil, I?m starting to believe, is no damn good for anybody.



The End:  It isn?t really the end, of course.  There?s no such thing as ?the end?.  But it is time to close the doors, sweep out the cobwebs, and get everything ready for next year?s big premiere.  Should be quite a party.  I hope to see you all there.

All the very best,

Newton

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From gavroche at gavroche.org  Wed Dec 11 22:25:08 2002
From: gavroche at gavroche.org (John)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] How to win friends, influence people, and convert dead souls
Message-ID: <BA1D6BC4.1474E%gavroche@gavroche.org>

Buddha, Joan of Arc and baseball player Hank Greenberg arrive at the pearly
gates...

by John Newmark

What do Genghis Khan
Buddha
Marc Chagall
and Joan of Arc
have in common?

They've all been baptized
into the Mormon church.

Albert Einstein
Adolf Hitler
Hank Greenberg
and thousands of Holocaust survivors
have also received the dubious honor.

None of them asked for it.

Converting someone
is a difficult task
when they're alive.
They can resist.

Just ask King David.
Saul made him convert
100 Phillistine warriors.
He too waited until they were dead.

David even helped 
the process along a bit,
by killing them,
and no one's accused the Mormons of that,
but still a lot of people are upset.

Baptism by proxy
may be a lot less messy
than adult circumcision,
which was David's task,
but it's just as undesirable.

http://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/display/inn_news/JTA/vmormons1211.txt
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/ShowFull&c
id=1039580576134


From gillespi at uiuc.edu  Wed Dec 11 22:47:38 2002
From: gillespi at uiuc.edu (William Gillespie)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Aftermath
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212112244590.11251-100000@staff2.cso.uiuc.edu>



half a million:



total possible on all sides during the conflict and the following three
months could range from 48,000 to over a quarter of a million

subsequent civil war 20,000

add a further 200,000 to adverse effects

then a further 200,000 would be threatened after

civil conflict

legions of refugees

children's health

destruction of manufacturing and agriculture

not only the capital, but also surrounding areas uninhabitable for years
to come

oil industry, roads, bridges, communications, electricity supplies, water
and sewage systems, factories, warehouses and civilian homes
systematically destroyed by ordnance

conscious policy to destroy electricity generating facilities, together
with water storage and treatment amenities

series of devastating famines and epidemics

bombs deafen, blind and blow apart people, riddling them with shrapnel,
glass and debris, collapse buildings on victims, including hospitals and
clinics vital to treating the wounded, unexploded ordinance left behind
kills and maims, battlefield toxins contaminate the environment for
decades

downfall of regimes in surrounding nations

retaliatory action by Islamic fundamentalists

ripple effects

oil price hikes

trade reduction

disastrous effect upon the less developed nations

stuttering world economy tipped into deep prolonged recession

$150 billion to $200 billion on a conventional war

further $5 billion to $20 billion on subsequent occupation

longer-term cost could amount to as much as $600 billion

worst case scenario, including oil price spikes and OPEC intransigence
envisages costs of as much as $1.6 trillion

left to debate causes and responsibilities without an adequate information
base



"price worth paying"



From futrelle at shout.net  Wed Dec 11 23:16:35 2002
From: futrelle at shout.net (Editor-Within-Chief)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] from the editor
Message-ID: <p05200f04ba1dc9b6c40d@[192.168.1.103]>

there are currently 30 poems in the queue from 10 different authors. 
I hope to hear from more authors before the 31st, but as we near the 
20th, I'm going to continue to just run one poem per day and then 
when I have as many unique authors as there are days left in 
December, I'm going to run multiple poems by each remaining author on 
each remaining day.  I'm saving the 31st for poems about Newspoetry 
ending including Rettberg Emerick Bigelow and any else I get.

-- 
Joe Futrelle
Editor-within-chief
http://www.newspoetry.com/


From futrelle at shout.net  Wed Dec 11 23:19:04 2002
From: futrelle at shout.net (Joe Futrelle)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] from the editor
In-Reply-To: <p05200f04ba1dc9b6c40d@[192.168.1.103]>
References: <p05200f04ba1dc9b6c40d@[192.168.1.103]>
Message-ID: <p05200f05ba1dcca974ca@[192.168.1.103]>

At 11:16 PM -0600 12/11/2002, Editor-Within-Chief wrote:
>there are currently 30 poems in the queue from 10 different authors. 
>I hope to hear from more authors before the 31st, but as we near the 
>20th, I'm going to continue to just run one poem per day and then 
>when I have as many unique authors as there are days left in 
>December, I'm going to run multiple poems by each remaining author 
>on each remaining day.  I'm saving the 31st for poems about 
>Newspoetry ending including Rettberg Emerick Bigelow

oh yeah and Gillespie too of course you fooled me with that subject 
heading you wiley pote

>  and any else I get.
>
>--
>Joe Futrelle
>Editor-within-chief
>http://www.newspoetry.com/
>
>_______________________________________________
>Newspoetry maillist  -  Newspoetry@lists.groogroo.com
>http://lists.cu.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/newspoetry


-- 
Joe Futrelle
Person


From emerick at chorus.net  Thu Dec 12 13:17:13 2002
From: emerick at chorus.net (Donald L Emerick)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Aftermath
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212112244590.11251-100000@staff2.cso.uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <000e01c2a213$18ad8ae0$fe7ede42@jhh>

Dear William:

I liked your treatment of your AfterMath topic better than I liked my own,
of the paltry democratic leadership position after electoral non-successes.
These few shortcomings have been hyperbolically exaggerated, grandly
inflated, and otherwise elevated to the status of an enormous triumph by the
triumph seekers in the Bush camp.  These small undemocratic minds wish to
claim a mandate, to do anything and everything that their agenda has
promised us that they would do if they ever could do such things.

The two events may be connected, for Gephardt could have -- perhaps --
avoided some election non-successes (and maybe some fewer losses) by taking
a stand against the madness of the Bush camp.  But, the connection is,
nonetheless, quite remote.  It is your pre-dictive, pre-scriptive AfterMath
that Gephardt should have been contemplating rather than some AfterMath like
mine, which only prattles on after the event about how the event felt.

What aftermath logic did sway Gephardt, when he met with Bush?  Was it the
dazzle of threats that Bush highlighted: did Gephardt somehow, suddenly,
come to believe that imminent peril faced the nation if the Iraqi regime
were not confronted and changed?  In the setting, when many Congressional
and other persons were swirling around the White House that morning, I
refuse to believe that aftermath logic was suddenly convincing to Gephardt.
His actions, as Daschle briefly said, were inexplicable and unexpected:
because Gephardt had told Daschle that he was going up to the White House
only to discuss the situation with the Bush camp.  Daschle was stunned and
shocked by news of Gephardt's sudden apparent defection and seeming
enlistment in the Bush camp's cause.

I do not think that anything is rotten in Gephardt.  But, there is something
that is hiding there, something that was already within his contemplation,
which somehow suddenly became so prominent that, by his actions, he seemed
to betray his colleagues in the House and Senate, his party, and the nation
itself.

Unlike the way that I like to think that I am, I have always doubted whether
Bush really understood evil and manipulative people like those in the Bush
camp.  I have always thought that Gephardt was not skeptical enough about
people who seemed to be sincerely claiming to pursue some good objective and
earnestly so at that.  Appeals to his better nature, to his belief in common
decencies, to his belief that politics ultimately must try to make life
better for all of us often leads him to believe that someone else is
reasonable, when -- in fact -- they are as unreasonable as ever in their
evil intents.

And yet, as my AfterMath poem tries to say, as well, after the fact, it is
this very quality, of being capable of being deceived, that makes Gephardt a
better leader, overall, than (say) someone like Pelosi, who was chosen to
succeed him.  I would rather that every political leader were naive enough
to believe in the possible good of another human being, and be sometimes
wrong in such trust, than to have them be like the people in the Bush camp.
For, these latter people are cynical and jaded, believing only in themselves
as the ultimate repository of all values, solely responsible for winning and
losing, willing to calculate the deaths and other costs -- such as your
AfterMath logic portrays -- and to shrug their shoulders and say "Glory
always has a high price to pay."   And they say this especially because they
do not see the homes destroyed, the lives lost, the lives shattered and
crippled, and so on as you describe these things as being any losses of
their own property.  It is not going to happen, afterall, to people that
they know personally, or to places that they love to visit.  It's just the
impersonality of history, of doing what it takes to be remembered as the
greatest of the great, the greatest of kings, and the truest of all the
king's men.

The word truest here is not quite the term that I want -- for these people
in the Bush camp believe that historians will only measure them, most
critically, according to how they appear to have furthered what historians
may judge to be important goals that were achievable and achieved.  Hence,
some blurt out their inner most conviction about the issue of the
responsibility of power: "History will judge me!".  For, such statements
indicate no belief that the opinions of one's contemporaries matter.  And,
many rationalizations are available, mostly deriving from the egocentrism of
individualism, to believe that no one else knows one's own point of view,
that it is hidden from view, for the present, but, will be manifestly
obvious to historians who come after, who come to gather the clues and the
pieces, who put back together the world, as seen from the eyes of this
person who does things for historical reasons, alone.

It is that kind of vanity, I am convinced, that underlies many who
effectively occupy positions of power in any society such as our own.  And,
such persons, having amassed great power, have their successors -- for the
seemingly noble (even if wrong) purposes that animate them are not usually
shared by their inheritors.  Such followers in history, in history, are
often venial, given to despotism and corruptions.  Power itself does not, as
Acton thought, so often work its corruption immediately in the same person,
so as to corrupt the empowered, personally.  Rather, power corrupts the
role, for the successor never faces the same scenes in the same ways that
the entrusted person did -- and, if no "challenges" of the same kind
continue -- then power becomes suffused with a unique aphrodisia, the odor
of self-sanctity.

Well, you can see how I worry too much about proper relationships between
proper action and proper persons -- and do not attend, enough, or much, to
the truly horrific, truly significant consequences of some proposed courses
of action.  Thanks for reminding me that no apocalypse could be impersonal.

Thanks for letting me listen,
Thanks for listening,
Donald L Emerick


From Mhubertw at aol.com  Thu Dec 12 13:59:39 2002
From: Mhubertw at aol.com (Mhubertw@aol.com)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] FAMILY VALUES?
Message-ID: <18f.12c1335e.2b2a44ab@aol.com>

FAMILY VALUES?

BREATH THAT IS SO STRONG, THAT IT WRINKLES!
EVADING WORK THAT NEVER GETS DONE.
HAIR THAT'S LOST NONE OF THE GREASE,
EVEN BY LAYING SO MANY HOURS IN THE ALABAMA STREETS AND THE SUN!
EYES, THAT SHOW JUST SOME OF THE ALCOHOL,
AND THERE'S BEEN LOTS IN HER LIFE!
SHE THE CO-DEPENDENT OL' W LEANS ON.
YOUR WOMAN. MY WOMAN! YOUR WIFE?
SOME DAYS WE'VE CLIMBED, BUT WE CAN'T REACH
THE TOP OF THE CURB!
I'M WEAK AND EASILY INTOXICATED!
SHE JUST SMILES WHEN I WANT TO STOP BEFORE HER HUSBAND RETURNS!
LIPS, THAT ARE SORE AND CRUSTY,
WITH LOVE THAT'S STRENGTHENED BY THE ANTIBIOTICS!
A SOILED G-STRING AND A TATTERED DRESS MADE OF OLD GARBAGE BAGS!
YOUR WOMAN. MY WOMAN! YOUR WIFE?
TWO GALLONS OF GIN WERE BOUGHT BEFORE NOON,
BUT 'DIED' BEFORE THE NEXT MORN!
I LOST CONTROL OF MY MIND AND BLADDER,
BUT YOUR WOMAN'S HAIRY, MUSCULAR ARMS CARRIED US BACK
INTO THE MONTGOMERY MOTEL!
YOUR WOMAN. MY WOMAN! YOUR WIFE?
WHEN SHE REACHES THAT NEXT ATM.
LORD, YOU KNOW OL' W PRAYS SHE STILL HAS SOME WORTH!
GIVE HER YOUR PLATINUM CARD UP YONDER,
'CAUSE SHE'S BEEN THROUGH JUST ABOUT ALL OF YOUR MONEY!
LORD, GIVE HER YOUR SHARE OF THE FAMILY MONEY!
I HAVEN'T EARNED ANY HERE IN MY PAMPERED LIFE,
'CAUSE I BELIEVE SHE DESERVES TO SPEND IT ON GIN, THE MOTEL AND ME!
YOUR WOMAN. MY WOMAN! YOUR WIFE?

COPYRIGHT  2002  HUBERT WILSON

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From: Mhubertw at aol.com (Mhubertw@aol.com)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
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From herringb at prairienet.org  Thu Dec 12 21:58:13 2002
From: herringb at prairienet.org (Paul Kotheimer)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] "Gooooood Morning, Afghanistan!"
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10212122156590.17944-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/afghanistan021021_robin.html

"Gooooood Morning, Afghanistan!"

First as tragedy,
Then as farce:  Robin Williams
entertains the troops.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
THE HAND-MADE RECORD LABEL
www.handmaderecords.com


From jay_morris_1 at hotmail.com  Fri Dec 13 00:06:40 2002
From: jay_morris_1 at hotmail.com (Jay Morris)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Bush plan eases rules for activist kidnapping
Message-ID: <OE41ZIhTrBoe2U8QVjp00009772@hotmail.com>

Bush plan eases rules for activist kidnapping

WASHINGTON (Newspoetry) -- The Bush administration proposed steps to
help prevent progressive social change by making it easier for large
corporations to kidnap or murder the activists behind social
movements, but sociologists cast the changes as a loophole for
corporations to remove any opposition.

"With these tools we will leave the future generations a legacy of
mainstreamed, safer communities, and a quality social fabric," U.S.
Secretary Ann Veneman said Wednesday in announcing the proposals at
the White House.

Sociologists and one pro-activist Democrat called the proposals a
setback, and said corporations would exploit the relaxed measures to
remove all opposition under the guise of activist-thinning projects.

They said the proposals came from an administration bolstered by
Republican mid-term election victories and determined to push through
an anti-progressive agenda.

"By shutting the public out and promoting more kidnapping, the Bush
administration is leaving communities at risk for riots and social
upheaval," said Carl Pope, Sierra Club executive director.

Under the proposal, projects for kidnapping young activists to reduce
the risk of social change could bypass requirements for reporting
kidnapping.

The primary purpose of the project must be to reduce the number of
activists, rather than simply gathering a sweatshop labor force, and
all projects in urban areas would still be required to file reports
for every kidnapping, the administration proposal said.

Administration officials said kidnapping reports were time consuming
and sometimes counter-productive if social change occurred while
kidnapping plans were being considered.

The new rules would eliminate an automatic delay granted in the case
of challenged projects -- thus allowing kidnapping to go ahead while
appeals are considered unless a challenger wins a stay. It would
require appeals to be heard quickly and decided within 60 days, during
which time the subject(s) must be kept alive.

The measures are based on a Bush administration initiative begun after
this year's devastating anti-war protests, which set back his pro-war
agenda and resulted in the continued survival of thousands of Iraqi
civilians.

The administration said the protests were made worse by an "unnatural"
buildup of support -- young activists, retirees, and even some
conservatives -- stemming from a long history of violent
neocolonialism on the part of the federal government. It said some 190
million US citizens now face an increased risk of exposure to
progressive social thinking.

"We want a strong, chauvinist, jingoistic citizenry with good habitat
for our corporate products," Veneman said.

Bush in August proposed legislation also aimed at revising
activist-removal practices, but that stalled in Congress.

The Sierra Club said it favored a more focused approach to expediting
thinning projects, limiting the relaxed rules to areas near
communities threatened by potential protests.

U.S. Rep. George Miller, a California Democrat, said Bush was ignoring
efforts to form a bipartisan consensus on kidnapping regulations.

He said the proposal was only the latest in a number of post-election
administration moves this year to weaken individual freedoms in favor
of corporate and military freedoms.

"Obviously President Bush has interpreted the recent elections as a
mandate to detain, bomb, and kill," he said.


http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/12/12/environment.bush.reut/index
.html


From futrelle at ncsa.uiuc.edu  Fri Dec 13 08:28:15 2002
From: futrelle at ncsa.uiuc.edu (Joe Futrelle)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:52 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Stereolab's Mary Hansen killed in bicycle accident :(
Message-ID: <p05200f06ba1f9b57912e@[192.168.1.103]>


(CNN) -- Multi-instrumentalist Mary Hansen from the group Stereolab 
died Monday after she was hit by a car while riding a bicycle in 
London. Hansen, who was 36, joined Stereolab in 1992.

"It is with great regret and deep sadness that we announce the death 
of Mary Hansen, " the group's members said in an official statement. 
"The suddenness of her death has shocked the band. Mary was a special 
person. Our thoughts are with her family and friends who will miss 
her greatly."

The statement also said Hansen's funeral would be held next week in 
Brisbane, Australia, where she was born January 11, 1966.

Stereolab has recorded eight studio albums since the retro-pop group 
formed in 1990. The most recent album, "Sound-Dust" (Elektra) came 
out last year and debuted at No. 11 on Billboard's Heatseekers chart.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Music/12/12/mroom.stereolab/index.html

Crap, crap, double crap.

:(

-- 
Joe Futrelle            http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/People/futrelle
Digital Library Technologies, NCSA/UIUC       ph  (217) 265-0296
605 E. Springfield, Champaign IL 61820        fax (217) 244-1987
"There's no world anymore. It's only--corpoRATions." -- Number 2
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From wendling at ncsa.uiuc.edu  Fri Dec 13 12:31:40 2002
From: wendling at ncsa.uiuc.edu (Bill Wendling)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:53 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Re: Stereolab's Mary Hansen killed in bicycle accident :(
In-Reply-To: <p05200f06ba1f9b57912e@[192.168.1.103]>
References: <p05200f06ba1f9b57912e@[192.168.1.103]>
Message-ID: <20021213183140.GA1633@ncsa.uiuc.edu>

Also sprach Joe Futrelle:
} 
} (CNN) -- Multi-instrumentalist Mary Hansen from the group Stereolab 
} died Monday after she was hit by a car while riding a bicycle in 
} London. Hansen, who was 36, joined Stereolab in 1992.
} 
} "It is with great regret and deep sadness that we announce the death 
} of Mary Hansen, " the group's members said in an official statement. 
} "The suddenness of her death has shocked the band. Mary was a special 
} person. Our thoughts are with her family and friends who will miss 
} her greatly."
} 
} The statement also said Hansen's funeral would be held next week in 
} Brisbane, Australia, where she was born January 11, 1966.
} 
} Stereolab has recorded eight studio albums since the retro-pop group 
} formed in 1990. The most recent album, "Sound-Dust" (Elektra) came 
} out last year and debuted at No. 11 on Billboard's Heatseekers chart.
} 
} http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Music/12/12/mroom.stereolab/index.html
} 
} Crap, crap, double crap.
} 
That sucks! :-(

-- 
|| Bill Wendling            "Real Programmers have a Snoopy Calendar
|| wendling@ncsa.uiuc.edu    of '69 hanging on their wall"
|| Coding Simian                       -- Toon Moene


From gillespi at uiuc.edu  Fri Dec 13 16:53:29 2002
From: gillespi at uiuc.edu (William Gillespie)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:53 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Jimmy Carter dies at Guantanamo Bay
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212131649300.25619-100000@staff1.cso.uiuc.edu>

Havana (Associated Poets) US authorities have reported that former US
President Jimmy Carter, one of the detainees being held by the military
for interrogation at the Guantanamo Bay Navy base in Cuba, has died.
Almost nothing is known about why he was detained or the circumstances
surrounding his death.

Carter was apprehended during a visit to Oslo to receive the Nobel Peace
Prize. The honor clearly elated him. He traveled to Norway with about 80
friends and relatives, and he beamed as trumpet blasts heralded his
arrival in the grand auditorium of Oslo City Hall, bedecked with yellow
and orange flowers. After the American soprano Jessye Norman sang several
songs in his honor, Carter silently blew her a kiss. Then he was escorted
into a C-17 transport jet by special forces. Hooded and shackled, drugged
into submission, bound hand and foot, wearing blacked-out goggles which
covered his face from view and prevented him from seeing anything during
the trip, Jimmy Carter was chained into his seat throughout a 12-hour
flight from Oslo to the US Navy base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

The whole operation was conducted as though Carter represented an imminent
threat of insurrection. Humvees equipped with machineguns and grenade
launchers surrounded the transport plane after it landed. Forty Marine MPs
with rifles and riot gear stood by, while a Navy helicopter hovered
overhead.

A terse official statement explained that a former US president in his 70s
had been captured in Switzerland (sic) during the previous week. He died,
allegedly from natural causes, at around 1 PM on December 13 after being
taken to the base hospital. "The matter will be fully investigated," the
statement added.

Citing US military regulations, spokesman Colonel Roger King refused to
state the reasons for Carter's detention. It is not even clear whether
Jimmy Carter's family and friends have been notified of his death.

The detention building has remained off limits to journalists, but
released detainees have described being held in barbed-wire pens inside
the large building, often exposed to the tropical storms, under constant
electric light. Some have complained of beatings or injuries received when
they were captured. Carter was subject to continual verbal abuse and
taunts as well as death threats. He was malnourished, and sick from an
allergic reaction to cured reindeer meat and cloudberries served at the
traditional Norwegian banquet. Carter also reportedly had a bullet wound
in his leg. He was deliberately kept in this state until he agreed to
answer questions. During the first two days of his detention in Camp
Rhino, he was blindfolded, stripped naked, bound to a stretcher and then
placed inside a metal shipping container without heating or insulation. He
received only limited food and medical attention.

It appears, however, that the interrogation regime at Bagram Air Base is
even more aggressive than that at Guantanamo. According to an October 29
article in the Washington Post, "Because Guantanamo is so close to the
United States and is continually being visited by US and foreign
officials, informed sources said, the camp operates in more of an
atmosphere of 'political correctness' than does the Bagram facility-a
sense among interrogators that they must not allow detainees an opening to
complain of mistreatment." At Bagram, which operates in "more of a
frontier atmosphere", interrogators feel no such constraint. No one is
permitted inside the facility. Other than an occasional visit by the
international Red Cross, there is no check on the treatment of prisoners.

Similar methods are being used in Kabul.

What ordeals Carter suffered remains a matter of speculation. More
information may be forthcoming. What is certain, however, is that the Bush
administration and the US intelligence apparatus are responsible for
depriving him of his freedom and basic democratic rights, and subjecting
him to a system of interrogation, and possibly torture, that appears to
have directly contributed to his death.

Neither the New York Times nor other media outlets have reported the death
or criticized the treatment being meted out to alleged terrorist suspects,
even decorated statesmen, in breach of their most basic democratic rights.
A former president can be detained indefinitely without charge and die in
unexplained circumstances, and the media, including the so-called liberal
New York Times, passes over the matter in silence.



From gillespi at uiuc.edu  Fri Dec 13 17:47:19 2002
From: gillespi at uiuc.edu (William Gillespie)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:53 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Aftermath 2
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212131740300.25619-100000@staff1.cso.uiuc.edu>

Check my work:

According to the U.S. Bureau of the Census, the resident population of the
United States, projected to 12/13/2002 at 5:56:50 PM EST is 288,692,828.

According to a recent report by www.medact.org, the costs of a war in Iraq
could range from $600 billion - $1.6 trillion. The number of lives lost
(mostly Iraqi) could range from 250,000 - 500,000.

I. If we assume the purpose of war is to kill people, then we want to
maximize  the number of lives lost while keeping costs (taxes) down.

I.I Therefore, a positive estimate posits 500,000 lives lost at a cost of
$600,000,000,000.
That's $1,200,000 per casualty.
Which costs $2078 per American.
One Iraqi dead for every 577 Americans.

I.II A negative estimate posits 250,000 lives lost at a cost of
$1,600,000,000,000.
That's $6,400,000 per casualty.
Which costs $5542 per American.
One Iraqi dead for every 1155 Americans.

II. If war serves some purpose other than killing, then we want to reduce
the number of lives lost while keeping costs (taxes) down, all within the
framework of successfully ensuring Iraq does not have weapons of mass
destruction/successfully ensuring Iraq does not have ties to Al
Quaeda/successfully ensuring that Saddam Hussein does not use chemical
weapons against his own people/successfully colonizing the region to
further Bush and his handlers' domination of global oil interests.

II.I A positive estimate posits 250,000 lives lost at a cost of
$600,000,000,000.
That's $2,400,000 per casualty.
Which costs $2078 per American.
One Iraqi dead for every 1155 Americans.

II.II A negative estimate posits 500,000 lives lost at a cost of
$1,600,000,000,000.
That's $3,200,000 per casualty.
Which costs $5542 per American.
One Iraqi dead for each 577 Americans.

Therefore, the most positive of all projected outcomes would have each
American pay $2078 in tax, in exchange for which they get minimal social
services and one thousandth of a Iraqi citizen, probably a civilian killed
by explosives.

And maybe, just maybe, we will sleep more soundly. But I doubt it.



From futrelle at shout.net  Fri Dec 13 18:45:18 2002
From: futrelle at shout.net (Editor-Within-Chief)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:53 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] US invents new weapon, bombs Iraq
Message-ID: <p05200f01ba202e23680c@[192.168.1.102]>

The World (Associated Poets):  The U.S. invented a new weapon today. 
Called a prionic bomb or P-bomb, the device is a weaponized form of 
the prions that cause mad cow disease.

In a related story, the U.S. bombed Iraq in the early hours of the 
morning because it claimed Iraq was just six months away from 
reconstituting a program to develop a P-bomb, which could then be 
passed on to Al Qaeda or other terrorist organizations.

-- 
Joe Futrelle
Editor-within-chief
http://www.newspoetry.com/


From rebelmike at earthlink.net  Fri Dec 13 21:37:27 2002
From: rebelmike at earthlink.net (Mike Lehman)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:53 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Technical Difficulties
Message-ID: <3DFAA777.5ACAC552@earthlink.net>

<http://www.dubyadubyadubya.com/>


From bwp61 at ix.netcom.com  Sat Dec 14 01:05:08 2002
From: bwp61 at ix.netcom.com (Robert Porter)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:53 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Newspoem:  A Sonnet for last call
Message-ID: <a05111b01ba2086a76b20@[63.184.137.14]>

Breaking with my usual habits, I thought I'd try an actual form, it 
being the last round and all ...


"It fails to find the heart of news"

It fails to find the heart of news
So it should at least be poetic'ly made
Context for content is an equitable trade
Or have I left the raw, red concrete
For the sunnier, sillier side of the street?
Where design will shine, and dismay will fade
Where I can leave cold, bitter truths sleeping in the shade
While fine, fat fantasies cavort around my feet

Should pestilence, war and famine strangle vibrant joy?
If all whimsy's doomed to become sad and weary satire
Will our failure to be led by the nose lead us to destroy?
And turn the warmth of our hearts into ash-inducing fire

I won't become the beaten-down blog that they'd prefer me to be
In the face of smug and blood-soaked lies I'll spit Newspoetry!
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From webmaster at cyberscribe.net  Sat Dec 14 01:43:55 2002
From: webmaster at cyberscribe.net (John Baldridge)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:53 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Christmas 2002
Message-ID: <002701c2a344$911b8a40$bd69dd0c@insightbb.com>

Christmas 2002

Happy Christmas.
Don't be afraid.
Does anyone else
Hope to stop the
Cannon with a flower?
An olive branch?
A prayer?
A poll?
A protest?
An email to the president?
A poem on the internet?

Happy Christmas.
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From babs at prairienet.org  Sat Dec 14 10:49:22 2002
From: babs at prairienet.org (Anne Bargar)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:53 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Christmas 2002
In-Reply-To: <002701c2a344$911b8a40$bd69dd0c@insightbb.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10212141027250.29901-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>

Dear Editor,
	We here at the Bison Committee for Cultural Affairs would like to
express our collective sadness that Newspoetry is nearing its end.  This
is the only outlet for the Bison perspective that we know of, be it
Fermented, Deployed, Reticulated, or Detached.  We have tried to express
our views, and have our voices heard, through other means, to no avail;
other dailies seem to think we are a joke, made up by drunk college
students or crazed environmentalists.   This is simply another attempt by
modern humans to marginalize viewpoints they simply do not have the
foresight to understand.
	We have been watching you for many thousands of years and, for a
long time, things were fine.  Some of us got killed, but we are, after
all, a prey animal.  We accept this as a condition of our existence.
However, after Europeans arrived, everything changed for the worse for us,
every other species, Native Americans, and wide open spaces.  What shocks
us still is the out-and-out disregard that you have shown Native
Americans; they are, after all, people.  There have been folks who have
persevered in preserving or reestablishing part of our rangeland; the
Native Americans have yet to be shown this courtesy.  It is morally
reprehensible to treat an "animal" better than a member of your own
species.
	That aside, we have to admit that we, as a community, simply don't
get you.  You confuse us.  You have, alone among species, the ability to
behave in a fashion that is out of sync with your environment.  That does
not make it advisable to do so.  There is no moral directive to build
large monuments to your abilities, to destroy things simply for profit.
Admittedly, we do not understand what profit is, or why it is so
desirable.  No Bison has any more grass than any other Bison.  There is
only a certain amount of forage that we can consume in a day, so what
would be the point in hording it?
	That said, we are asking you, as a species, to immediately cease
and desist in your destructive activities.  You have no right to destroy
the world you evolved in.  Listen to those among you who wish to see a
more sustainable world; they have sense.  Otherwise, you are likely to
destroy everything, yourselves included.  We have concluded that your
species has suicidal tendencies; we do not, and we have no desire to go
with you.  
	We hope this stern talking-to is beneficial.  Once again, we thank
you, Newspoetry, for having given us this voice over the last few years.
We shall continue to seek other venues for our opinions, but this is one
we shall certainly miss.

					Farewell, 

					The South Dakota Bison Committee
					for Reticulated, Detached, Fermented, 
					and Deployed Cultural Affairs


From rebelmike at earthlink.net  Sat Dec 14 13:47:01 2002
From: rebelmike at earthlink.net (Mike Lehman)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:53 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] [Fwd: [Sdas] This is what Trent Lott regrets...]
Message-ID: <3DFB8AB5.3C4D1B82@earthlink.net>

And Probably What Lott Still Likes, based on the fact that he's suddenly
felt a need to distance himself from segregation after cozying up to it
for the last half-century. I don't believe that Lott has converted to
anything but a slightly slipperier politician in the last week.

Thanks to John for passing this along.
Mike

John Martirano wrote:
> 
> This is a sample ballot from distributed by the Mississippi Democratic
> Party in 1948.
> Read the paragraph under "REMEMBER".
> http://mshistory.k12.ms.us/features/feature7/ms_demo_ballot.html
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Sdas mailing list
> Sdas@che.onthejob.net
> http://che.onthejob.net/mailman/listinfo/sdas


From gillespi at uiuc.edu  Sat Dec 14 20:10:01 2002
From: gillespi at uiuc.edu (William Gillespie)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:53 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Louis all mad at the Yemenis
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212142008350.22322-100000@staff2.cso.uiuc.edu>

Louis is all mad at the Yemenis now for some reason. He thinks... who the
hell knows what he thinks. He glares at us from over his beer. Brian is
leaning on the bar thinking about himself. Various objects reflect him, he
is at the center of their spectacle. A haze of signs and meanings he moves
through like a ray of light playing over facets. He isn't impressed with
Louis. But he doesn't want to get on Louis' bad side, as the Yemenis
appear to have done today. So silence again and back to CNN on the TV
above the bar. Me I am working on this newspoem using words from the Times
crossword but I can't finish the crossword. I have a guess about 42 across
and it's a word I really want to use in my poem and I hope, I hope, that I
am right but everything is not exactly falling into place, shall we say,
with the Times Crossword Poetry Project.  Well we know Louis is upset now,
at the fucking Yemenis, at fucking Arafat, always Arafat, the fucking
Palestinians, bomb Iraq? Louis is refreshingly enthusiastic about the
prospect. Hell yeah, let's bomb Iraq and any other country ending in Q.
Nothing like the gridlock of a divided legislature, Louis is unequivocal.
Bomb, what the hell, Libya too. Definitely Yemen, don't ever turn your
back on Yemen, not even for a second. And then the story comes back and it
is about a ship from North Korea bound for Yemen, no markings, carrying
scud missiles. The CNN footage shows the scud missiles beneath sacks of
cement. Louis gasps, is rigid. They look more like toboggans than
fireworks. It's hard to see how they can fly. Louis pounds the bar as if
those Scuds were destined to head up the Ohio river, straight up the Ohio
river, to Cinti, where maybe a bunch of fucking Yemenis would move in next
door, free country, and set up their fucking scuds in their backyard
pointing at Louis' window. Boarding a ship in international waters is
generally considered piracy, I say. You see: the ship was bound for Yemen,
fully legal purchase. Fucking A right board a ship in international waters
Louis says, unequivocal, beyond equivocation, piracy my ass. If some
fucking Yemeni is in the back seat of your car with a gun to your head and
the police come in through the door to get him is that piracy? I open my
mouth to answer. Is that piracy? Louis seems ready to throw something, to
break something, to smash through the wall and just fucking go kick
Arafat's ass himself. Is he drunk? Louis is never more drunk than me, I
remember, or is it more drunk than I? I don't remember. Now there is
commentary. It appears the US knew the ship was bound for Yemen, knew of
the missiles, and had seized it as a pretext to launch a "preemptive" war
against Iraq, but the Yemeni's backed out of their end of the deal and
claimed the ship and so the US had to let the ship go. Let it go? Let it
go? Louis is really upset. There goes the ship, off across the ocean en
route to Ohio. Let it go. I can't reason with Louis. Brian has finished my
crossword puzzle and has wandered off to the mens room to fix his hair, he
always fixes his hair, guys like Louis never fix their hair. Let the
Yemenis fix their fucking hair, Louis might say, I ain't got all day.

Louis, man, I'm just not worried about the Yemenis. Or the North Koreans.
Louis gives me a hard stare, his unblinking eyes as wide as the hole in
national security I represent, and opens his mouth to tell me what he
thinks of that. We're about to start arguing about United Nations Security
Council Resolutions. Time to change the channel.




From emerick at chorus.net  Mon Dec 16 13:48:35 2002
From: emerick at chorus.net (Donald L Emerick)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:53 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] PLAINLY SPEAKING AN EXECUTIVE LAW
Message-ID: <001601c2a53c$238c1900$407ede42@jhh>

www.nytimes.com/2002/12/15/national/15JUDG.html?todaysheadlines

PLAINLY SPEAKING AN EXECUTIVE LAW
Some courts find opinions by verse offensive:
the law itself may have its reputation lowered
when opinions invite one to read their jingles
rather than hack through jungles of phrases
when meaning defies any ordinary language
by self-encapsulation in special terms of art
whose understanding may require education
in the schools of law and lawyerly practices.

Some courts say other values are at risk
when opinions settle into a form of words
that is used in child's play or making love,
or overheating people to buy hot products:
litigants may feel sting from a word string
when forty lashes from a tongue are cruel;
unusual punishments are by law forbidden,
but not forbidden is the effect of an opinion
that says "yes" to one and "no" to another,
that takes and gives, or leaves undisturbed
a relationship that was called before justice
to justify itself as to how persons as parties,
putatively, were just by a law of an allegation
of what a then-said relationship was about.

And, perhaps, lawyers, most of all fear verse
will make the law somewhat worse than it is,
for now their skills of never speaking a truth
have to be extended to rule one more form,
to silence times when opinions are poetic.

Forensics aims at dead things of the Past,
as to how we shall give them proper burial;
but Politics aims, if I borrow the target talk,
at what also lies on the other side of Now,
as that which we say-do now shall be law
of the time which is yet to come to being,
when present saying now is large enough
to have voice that can be heard tomorrow,
distinguished from all other voices in time,
the last voice speaks law by its last words,
by its words being most definitely latest,
most certainly relevant, and accurate, too:
then a definitive law is determinatively just.

EX-STANZA EXTEMPORARY EX-SPEAKING:
Thus, when the law of the land plainly says,
"Persons of some certain racial, or religious,
or age-related, or gender(-orientation), or ethnic,
or cultic, cultural or group-personal attributive
must be treated fairly in government contracts"
and when a President says, "Faith-based-work,
we ignore the law and discriminate for the faith"
we can be fairly sure that President is wrong,
that his acts call for harming the less faithful,
the less holier than thous, even the unfaithful:
power to reward with carrots is a mighty stick,
made up of words, spoken in secret places,
by determiners of all that they may deem holy;
never gainsaid by a people against its priests.

Turn bureaucrazed states back to theocrazies,
where state power aligns again with god power,
to hold the people down in a willing ignorance.

Nothing in verse alters mangy manger scenes
sitting on courthouse lawns, side-lit by menorahs,
bracketing ten commandments by two-by-fours,
scaffolding for the sacrifice of the last scoff-laws.

Politics speaks of all nothings that do not exist,
or else politics would never be a political thing:
isolation study of emptiness, distance, separation,
of gaps, aporias, ghosts and goblins and spirits,
and other un-things that are never-never not true
nor yet ever present to us so as to be the false.

NOT_FOR_SPEAKING_NOR_SPOKEN_FOR
This may be why versification does not matter
to people who hear nothing but verses all day,
for all verses work by reminding us of a past,
they being forensic, not political nor its news,
and thus newspoetic theaters of this absurdity
fill with silence when it drains meaning away.

Thanks for listening,
eXeXeXeXeXeXeXeXe,
Donald L Emerick
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From Mhubertw at aol.com  Tue Dec 17 16:34:29 2002
From: Mhubertw at aol.com (Mhubertw@aol.com)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:53 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] DECEMBER 17,2002 SELECTION
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CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT IT!
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From futrelle at shout.net  Tue Dec 17 16:49:40 2002
From: futrelle at shout.net (Joe Futrelle)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:53 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] DECEMBER 17,2002 SELECTION
In-Reply-To: <6e.27b13052.2b310075@aol.com>
References: <6e.27b13052.2b310075@aol.com>
Message-ID: <p05200f05ba255a75445f@[141.142.96.16]>

At 5:34 PM -0500 12/17/2002, Mhubertw@aol.com wrote:
>CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT IT!

dang, it's finals week ... I'll put something up ...

-- 
Joe Futrelle
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From gillespi at uiuc.edu  Wed Dec 18 10:54:28 2002
From: gillespi at uiuc.edu (William Gillespie)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:53 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] The REAL origin of "Newspoetry"
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212181051360.11129-100000@staff1.cso.uiuc.edu>

I started using the word "newspoetry" in December 1995 believing I had
coined it. But Dirk recently found a passage in an old notebook where he
invented not only the word, but the idea, and even the logo. Dirk mailed
me a photocopy of that page and I've scanned it and uploaded a JPG to
http://spinelessbooks.com/newspoetry. I've also typed in the text
below.

It's dated 1991. I think I met Dirk in 1997.

What does this mean? Is this a forgery? Is Stratton faking? Or is it
anticpatory plagiarism? Is newspoetry an idea so tangible, so necessary,
that like an aesthetic parasite it moves from host to host, making people
write it? Perhaps there is a need that only newspoetry can satisfy.

EXCERPT FROM DIRK'S DIARY-----------------------------------

Political Poetry weekly:

Newspaper poetry [graffitti script?]

Newspoetry will operate w/out preconceived aesthetic criterea (to best of
my ability) - try to offer forum for political poetry that will be as
concurrent w/ actual events as possible. No 2-3 yr. lag in books etc.
Initially, just poetry: maybe commentary + prose later

Dirk Stratton, anticipating Newspoetry, 4-8-1991



From emerick at chorus.net  Wed Dec 18 12:20:14 2002
From: emerick at chorus.net (Donald L Emerick)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:53 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] The REAL origin of "Newspoetry"
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212181051360.11129-100000@staff1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <002701c2a6c2$1d927940$a97ede42@jhh>

The question of definitiveness in the term "newspoetry" seems to come to
stake when a word meaning is not assigned.  As Carroll once noted, the
question of meaning would be, in the last analysis (or in the latest
analysis, though the two are not the same, for at least the latter is
expressly forwardly deployable, whereas it is dubious that any analysis is
ever last or is meant to last (unless it is demented or de-minted)): "Who's
will recognizes (or is recognized as, again an equivocation) what some term
means?"

It is possible that a word has
A.  no meanings
B.  one meaning
C.  some meanings
C.  most meanings
D.  all meanings

The problems in this SAT question are that it never says when any of these
theses are true or false because it refers to the possible.  I think that I
could always imagine some condition such that any thesis thus has no
absolute truth value, such as a meaning.

Could I imagine, though, that I could not imagine some condition on the
latter statement?  Could I absolutely relativize the authority of
relativitization, or is the authority of relativity so absolute that no one
may deny it?  (Physicists: please note, my use of the term relativity may
have nothing to do with any theories of the same that you have conspired to
name.)

Moreover, whatever the meaning of the word newspoetry may be, Sir William
does not raise the question of other meanings or of any meanings.

He simply asks after a simpler matter: regardless of its meaning, when did
the string "n-e-w-s-p-o-e-t-r-y" first appear, as such, to any conscious
mind?  When did it first appear in thinking?  When did it first appear in
speaking?  When did it first occur in writing?  When did it first occur in
the movies?  When did it first appear in a Presidential speech?  When did it
first appear in a Papal encyclical?  When did it first occur on Mars, or a
planet (if any) circling Sirius, and so on?  When did it first occur in a
foreign galaxy?  When did it first occur in a foreign universe?

Well, possible worlds are truly susceptible to a lot of firsts!

I suppose that I have thus suggested that thinking is the least (or most
minimal) grounds for an appearance -- a most anthro-centric point of view, I
must confess.  Moreover, I do not even explore the question that I beg
entirely:  what is a language, so that I would know whether "newspoetry" in
English was preceded by a cognate form in some other languages, such as
Yiddish or even in the "MotherTongue" Gibberish.  For then, I would have to
go through all of the writings, and sayings, back to the start of such
evidences of thinking -- and yet, I would also have to recognize that there
may possibly have been a time before writing, just as there may be a time
before saying -- if thinking is to be possible.

<<I wanted to ask after accidents as well.  Imagine some mytho-poetic
monster printing machine that begins spewing out all two letter
combinations, then moves on to print all three letter combinations, and so
on.  Well, then, I have to thank infinity (or some such condition of being)
for combinatorial explosion: to invent a new word, as an act that precedes
the activity of this monster wordsmith, I may begin with a wordstring longer
than the class of wordstrings that the monster is presently generating.  If
you start a race in a position far ahead of the other guy, you may be far
more likely to cross the finish line ahead of him.  Or not, as Aesop says,
of what may have been a slightly different race.>>

Or, it could be that the word occurs before thinking does.  It just appears
in the air.  And, this might be especially true of words that appear without
meaning -- and then seem to acquire meanings -- by some political
processses, that fall far short of global thermonuclear war.  As long as we
have ourselves to kick around (alas, poor nixon -- I knew him by his horrors
of ratiocinative biases), we shall not settle the question of meaning.

At best, meaning is not there in the same way that a thing is somewhen-where
definitively placed and placeable, by referential frameworks that are
inertially translatable, one to the other.  Meaning for a word is so closely
related to potentiality that it (the word) has, say, a statistical
distribution over a variety of states.  These individual states, though each
would be a meaning, would not be the meaning of a single word -- for some of
the states might belong to more than one word (as the problem of synonyms
might illustrate for us, were there such a thing as synonyms).  And,
antonyms?  Oh, please!  Do not get me started down this negative slope of
unthinking things (or is it unthinking <of> unthings?)!

So, is it possible that newspoetry has happened -- or is it only possible
that it may yet happen?

Honestly.  I can't answer for you, though I can  imagine that I can imagine
answer(s) -- some of them entertaining and self-amusing, some of them
informative and stative, and others otherwise.

Thanks for listening,
Donald L Emerick


From emerick at chorus.net  Wed Dec 18 13:14:42 2002
From: emerick at chorus.net (Donald L Emerick)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:53 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] The Odds on Theoidiocy
Message-ID: <000b01c2a6c9$bb080ee0$087fde42@jhh>

The Odds on Theoidiocy
(for my leibnitzian friends)

I sing a book of books
beaucoup books
coo-coo books
boo-hoo books
who boo hobo books
written in the gutters
by raging gutter-snipes
hautboy and girl books
daughters and sons of beeches
who are genitive killers of trees,
Webster: book springs of beech,
and Webster is boo.king books,
coo.king books ingredientially.

The Book of Books says:
"Eat God" is "theophagy"
as one communes with god
by eating him and his word,
devouring every last bit of flesh,
drinking his blood and licking his spittle,
licking the greasy platter clean,
kissing his ass good-bye
so may God-be-with-y'all
longer than you are you.

I excoriate here "Theo" terms
by listing them, sans prejudice
but for a bias for alpha-male-ordered-brides:

theo, theobroma, theobroma oil, theobromine,
theocentric, theocentricity, theocentrism,
theocracy, theocrasia , theokrasia,
theocrasies, theocrasias,
theocrat, theocrates, theocratic, theocratically,
theocritean, theocritan, theocritic, theocriticism,
theodemocracy, theodicean, theodiocy,
theodolite, theodolitic, theodore,
theodosian[, Theodosius], theodotian[, Theodotus],
theody, theogonic, theogonist, theogony,
theolatry,  theologaster, theologate, theologer,
theologician, theologic, theological, theologically,
theological virtue, theologico-,
theologism, theologist, theologize,
theologoumenon, theologumenon, 
theologoumena, theologumena,
theologue, theolog, theology,
theomachist,  theomachy,
theomancy, theomania, theomaniac,
theomonism, theomorphic,  theomorphism,
theonomous, theonomously, theonomy,
theopantism, theopaschite, 
theopathetic, theopathic, theopathy,
theophagous, theophagic, theophagy,
theophanic, theophanous, theophany,
theophilanthropic, theophilanthropism,
theophilanthropist, theophilanthropy,
theophobia, theophoric,
theophrastaceae, theophrastaceous,
theophrastian[, Theophrastus],
theophylline, theophylline ethylenediamine,
theopneust, theopneustic,
theor, theorbist, theorbo, theorem,
theorematic, theorematically,
theorem of pythagoras, theoretic, theoretics,
theoretical, theoretically,  theoretical reason,
theoretician, theoretico-, theoretic virtue,
theoric, theorique, theorical, theorically,
theorician, theorist, theorization, theorize, theorizer,
theory, theory of epigenesis, theory of exchange,
theory of games, theory of internal relations,
theory of numbers, theory of signs, theory of types,
theosoph, theosopher, theosophic, theosophical,
theosophically, theosophism, theosophist,
theosophistic, theosophistically, theosophize,
theosophy, theotokion, theotokia, theow ...

so says Webster Third New International (1976),
which supplements itself by saying, forwardly,
nothing new in its supplement for such spellings,
though, just before where new theo- words fall,
if they had been found, we do find (suggestively):
theater of the absurd and theme park,
which I have begun to illustrate above
by illuminating areas where darkness stands
to rule out of order the light defining darkness.

<<I apologize for entering no meanings, here.>>

Just because a word doesn't happen in a list
does not mean that it is not out there waiting,
lurking around for a moment to spring on you,
as theoidiots have been doing unto us forever.

Thanks for listening,
if you could have listened,
only if you could have listened,
if only you could have listened,
if you only could have listened,
if you could only have listened,
if you could have only listened,
if you could have listened only,
when a letter falls someplace,
even when it is never sensed,
even as nonsense, and so on.
Donald L Emerick
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From futrelle at ncsa.uiuc.edu  Thu Dec 19 11:31:10 2002
From: futrelle at ncsa.uiuc.edu (Joe Futrelle)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:53 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] appall-o-meter: 8.7
Message-ID: <p05200f05ba27b26e5eb3@[192.168.1.103]>

Police say a woman tried to trick her daughter and community into 
thinking the girl had cancer so she could raise money, even going so 
far as to shave the 7-year-old's head, give her sleeping pills and 
put her in counseling to prepare to die.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/12/19/national/main533634.shtml

-- 
Joe Futrelle            http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/People/futrelle
Digital Library Technologies, NCSA/UIUC       ph  (217) 265-0296
605 E. Springfield, Champaign IL 61820        fax (217) 244-1987
"There's no world anymore. It's only--corpoRATions." -- Number 2
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From futrelle at shout.net  Thu Dec 19 14:26:57 2002
From: futrelle at shout.net (Editor-Within-Chief)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:53 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] material breach
Message-ID: <p05200f01ba27da20cbc1@[141.142.102.82]>

So Powell delivered a speech
citing Saddam's material breach
we're going to war
which will kill thousands more
which I think should be grounds to impeach

"Material breach" is a term
that makes lovers of plain language squirm
like "smart bombs" and "sorties"
it brings back the forties
during Richard M. Nixon's first term

-- 
Joe Futrelle
Editor-within-chief
http://www.newspoetry.com/


From gillespi at uiuc.edu  Fri Dec 20 09:31:25 2002
From: gillespi at uiuc.edu (William Gillespie)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:53 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] anybody know Catalan?
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212191749300.16586-100000@staff3.cso.uiuc.edu>

Newspoetry was mentioned in a Barcelona newspaper yesterday. 3rd column.

http://www.avui.es/avui/diari/02/des/19/pdf/02d19s07.pdf



From futrelle at shout.net  Fri Dec 20 09:52:28 2002
From: futrelle at shout.net (Editor-Within-Chief)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:53 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] I am not infallible
Message-ID: <p05200f01ba28ec3dda25@[192.168.1.102]>

As Don Emerick pointed out, but I failed to understand (because the 
way he pointed it out was so -- poetic) I ran the poem "ship of 
fools" twice.

Which is dumb.

What should I do?  I could replace one of those dates (Dec 3 and 8) 
with a poem that I have yet to be able to fit into the schedule, but 
the poet would have to be content that their poem is only accessible 
retrospectively, or,

and I prefer this one,

that someone write a poem about the news and the fact that *it* runs 
stories again and again without seeming to realize it or care, and we 
retroactively run that poem on Dec 8th.  any takers?

-- 
Joe Futrelle
Editor-within-chief
http://www.newspoetry.com/


From futrelle at shout.net  Fri Dec 20 10:29:55 2002
From: futrelle at shout.net (Editor-Within-Chief)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:53 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] list of newspoets
Message-ID: <p05200f02ba28f3b09909@[192.168.1.102]>

as I begin to put together the post-2002 site I want to make sure my 
list of newspoets is correct. here's a list and if you can just check 
your name to make sure it's not misspelled and if there is a nickname 
or something that you do or do not want included let me know. I also 
have some questions which I included in the list.

This list comes from the automatically-generated indexes for 
2000-2002.  The 1999 index by poet is another matter and will be 
covered in another email.

Adam Tobin
Al Drummond
Al Gore [not really obviously]
Amy Aaronson
Andrea Van Proyen
Andrew Hurt
Andy Gricevich
Anna Schultz
Anne Bargar
Anne Geraci
Barbara Geist Harms
Ben Blanchard
Ben Emerick
Ben Grosser
Bethany Cooper
Bill Wendling
Bob Futrelle
Bob Porter
Brandy Watts
Brendan Jo Lesbiantougher
Brian Hagy
Brian Kimberling
Brian Richards
Bruce Springsteen [really, but we don't actually have his record 
company's permission ...]
Bryan Cribbs
C. G. Estabrook [of course there's only one Carl. but should I list 
him as "Carl" or "C. G."?]
Carl Estabrook
Cassandra J. Chavez
Cat Sullivan [any relation to "The Cat"?]
Chandra Vega
Charles Joseph Smith
Chris Bratt
Chris Mann
Chris Pealer
Chris Piuma
Claire Braz-Valentine [any relation to "Clare Christina"?]
Clare Christina
Claudia Rexroad
Clint Popetz [Clint, you prefer "Clint", right?]
Clinton Popetz
D. Kent Yates
Daniel Pleck
David Fruchter
David Gehrig
Dirk Stratton
Don Emerick
Eric Rasmussen
The Fifth Column
Frank Lombaer
Genevieve Futrelle
Geoffrey Kurtz
George W. Bush [not really]
Gibson Frank
Gina Langhout
Gothica McSadpants [I need to change this one; I know who to change it to]
Hubert Wilson
Indigo Agni
Indigo Franks [there's only one Indigo, right?  if so which name should I use?]
Intermittent Fitz
Isidor
Isidor Plutonymus [Isidor, do you prefer the 1-name or 2-name version?]
James N. Stewart
Jamie the Priate
Japhy Ryder
Jason Morris [same as Jay Morris. Jay, I assume you prefer Jay]
Jason Piztl-Waters
Jay Morris [see above]
Joan Rothenberg
Joe Futrelle
John Baldridge
John Feld
John Kistner
John Newmark
John Wason
Julie P. Price
Junetta Gillespie
Justin Smith
Kalev Tait
Kate McDowell
Kathryn Matsen
Kurt Heintz
Lawrence Toof
Lorien Carsey
Maiko Covington
Marco
Marcos Campillo
Marcus Bales
Mark Armantrout
Mark Enslin
Mark H. Wilson
Mark Nye
Mark T. Colby
Matthew Lee
Matthew S. Kremer
Max Schnuer
Meg Miner
Michael Feltes
Mike Lehman
Mr. Big
Naked Mannequin
Newton Bigelow
Nick Berveiler
Nick Montfort
Nicky Neulist
O. N. Tarian
Onon Gonsborg [hmm, Nick, should we just attribute this to you?]
Patrick Coleman
Paul Kotheimer
Peter Miller
Q. Synopsis
Ramiro Urbaneja
Ranjan Banerji
Raymond Federman
Rebecca Innes
Rick Bukhardt [oops, I'll fix this]
Rick Burkhardt
Rob Wittig
Robert Klein Engler
Roger Thompson
Ronald K. Burke
Rosemary Braun
Ryan Eckes
Sal Nudo
Sam Markewich
Sam Patterson
Sandra Ahten
Sascha Meinrath
Scott Rettberg
Sehvilla Mann
Sigfried Gold
Silvia S. Crockett
Simon Mills
Ssgt. Hubert Wilson
The Cat
The Unknown
The Yeti
Tim Gibbs
Tim Hall
Tom Curr
Tom Hendricks
Vika Zafrin
Wednesday
Wendy Edwards
Whitestone
William Gillespie
ghost of tom joad
gj's machine
skapessl

-- 
Joe Futrelle
Editor-within-chief
http://www.newspoetry.com/


From gillespi at uiuc.edu  Fri Dec 20 10:43:33 2002
From: gillespi at uiuc.edu (William Gillespie)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:53 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] I am not infallible
In-Reply-To: <p05200f01ba28ec3dda25@[192.168.1.102]>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212201001390.19203-100000@staff1.cso.uiuc.edu>

> that someone write a poem about the news and the fact that *it* runs
> stories again and again without seeming to realize it or care, and we
> retroactively run that poem on Dec 8th.  any takers?

Ten years later

The War on Terrorism has been redeclared
President Bush is amassing troops in the Persian Gulf
To attack Iraq because they invaded Ku-
Wait, that was the last one
Either the President or Vice-President
Speaks the mangled diction of a flustered fifth grader
Thrust on camera before an international audience
Such that entire (humor) books have been compiled
Of actual quotes
The Gettysburg Address now reduced to Bloopers

"A gang of thieving lobbyists"
Iran-Contra full-cast revue
Despite unreeling criminal histories
They are withered, impotent and therefore
There is no moral grounds for impeachment

Jellybeans, broccoli, pretzels:
news

Sniper, Unabomber, (Anthrax?):
fear your neighbor, fear your mail
fear your medicine
fear air

Noriega, Hussein, bin Laden:
disposable aliens, deposable allies

And somewhere overseas, but also in our streets
On our phone, in our email accounts
In the sales records of independent booksellers
Written in private documents previously considered confidential
Reading government documents previously considered public
Lurks a terrible enemy, a shroud of evil
An empire, cells, a curtain, a menace
A mirror of our collective prejudice

There's only one way out of this mess:
Elect Dukakis in 1988


From Mhubertw at aol.com  Fri Dec 20 11:10:41 2002
From: Mhubertw at aol.com (Mhubertw@aol.com)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:53 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] CHICKENHAWKS: THE GREATEST DENIGRATION
Message-ID: <59.24def623.2b34a911@aol.com>

CHICKENHAWKS: THE GREATEST DENIGRATION

Is it not now so curious?
That now you are so furious?
Now such bellicose might!
Then you had trouble finding the Vietnam fight!
So many charged to the rear,
Because of military service fear?
Military servicemen they thought as fools?
As Chickenhawks stayed forever in graduate schools!
Now Chickenhawks for war do bellow,
But during their war they were yellow?
Minorities in great numbers overpaid,
While Chickenhawks simply DELAYed?
Others RUSHed to be missed,
Because they had an anal cyst?
Some through many colleges ROVEd,
But no degrees on them were bestowed?
D.C. made love, not war!
Really nothing more?
Still others were BUSHed wussies,
Because they were such big ???????!

Copyright  2002  Hubert Wilson

CHICKENHAWKS@NHGAZETTE.COM
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From futrelle at shout.net  Fri Dec 20 11:13:10 2002
From: futrelle at shout.net (Joe Futrelle)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:53 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] list of newspoets
In-Reply-To: <p05200f02ba28f3b09909@[192.168.1.102]>
References: <p05200f02ba28f3b09909@[192.168.1.102]>
Message-ID: <p05200f02ba28fffbcd6d@[141.142.96.16]>

OK I've noted some changes:

Amy Aaronson is really me.
Cassandra J. Chavez -> CJC

At 10:29 AM -0600 12/20/2002, Editor-Within-Chief wrote:
>as I begin to put together the post-2002 site I want to make sure my 
>list of newspoets is correct. here's a list and if you can just 
>check your name to make sure it's not misspelled and if there is a 
>nickname or something that you do or do not want included let me 
>know. I also have some questions which I included in the list.
>
>This list comes from the automatically-generated indexes for 
>2000-2002.  The 1999 index by poet is another matter and will be 
>covered in another email.
>
>Adam Tobin
>...
>skapessl
>
>--
>Joe Futrelle
>Editor-within-chief
>http://www.newspoetry.com/
>
>_______________________________________________
>Newspoetry maillist  -  Newspoetry@lists.groogroo.com
>http://lists.cu.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/newspoetry


-- 
Joe Futrelle
Person


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From babs at prairienet.org  Sat Dec 21 09:05:32 2002
From: babs at prairienet.org (Anne Bargar)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:54 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Poem from Mr. Big
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212191749300.16586-100000@staff3.cso.uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10212210902370.27724-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>

My Last Word

Sit. Sit. Sit. Stare. Sit.  Walk under rock.  Rock. Rock.  Climb up rock
until half out of water. Toes still moist.  Why is that cat looking at me?
Sit. Sit. Sit. Sit. Sit.  The radio is on and they're interviewing Henry
Kissinger.  Sit. Sit. Sit.  Reminds me of a bullfrog I used to know.  Sit.
Sit.  Except that Kissinger isn't charming.  Sit. Sit. Sit. Sit.
Swallow.  Bob did a really outstanding job redoing my tank.  I have
several rocks from which to chose, and the plant makes for a fresher
atmosphere in here.  Sit. Sit.  Too bad he couldn't change it into a
stream.  Sit. Sit. Sit.   I miss running water.  Sit. Sit. Sit. Sit.  Now
Madeleine Albright is on the radio.  Sit. Sit. Sit. Sit. Sit.  She's as
bad as Kissinger.  Walk. Walk. Walk.  Toes still moist, tail out of water.
Water still not running.  Damn.  Where are the politicians that will
advocate for my right to running water?  Sit. Sit. Sit.  Anne just chased
the cat away.  Sit. Sit. Sit. Sit.  Damn my inability to bite the finger
of the hand that caught me!  I could live 40 years in this tank!  Sit.
Sit. Sit. Sit. Sit. Blink. Swallow. Stare. 


-Mr. Big


From bwp61 at ix.netcom.com  Sat Dec 21 22:08:03 2002
From: bwp61 at ix.netcom.com (Robert Porter)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:54 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Presidential Vaccine
Message-ID: <F764754D-1562-11D7-8747-00050259A66A@ix.netcom.com>

G.W. Bush got a little prick in the White House today.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/22/national/22VACC.html


From LiLb130 at aol.com  Sun Dec 22 14:45:52 2002
From: LiLb130 at aol.com (LiLb130@aol.com)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:54 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] For God So Loved Me
Message-ID: <d1.21a61695.2b377e80@aol.com>

For God So Loved Me
He created the sun, the moon, and the stars.
The sun to warm those cold weary days.
the moon to pierce the ever lasting darkness.
The stars to give hope when thier is none left.
For God So Loved ME
He created the fire, the wind, and the water.
the fire to keep me warm when the world is cold.
The wind to cool the burn of pain and life.
The water to quench the thirst for life.
For God So Loved Me
He created the most precious gift of all.
You

By Jesse Brandon age:20 contact info: Lilb130@aol.com
copyright 2002 Jesse lee brandon
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From bwp61 at ix.netcom.com  Mon Dec 23 08:31:40 2002
From: bwp61 at ix.netcom.com (Robert Porter)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:54 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] RIP Joe Strummer
Message-ID: <40275556-1683-11D7-A384-00050259A66A@ix.netcom.com>

Joe Strummer, formerly of The Clash, has died, apparently of a heart 
attack.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/arts/AP-Obit-Strummer.html


From emerick at chorus.net  Mon Dec 23 13:55:54 2002
From: emerick at chorus.net (Donald L Emerick)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:54 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Last Minute Shopping Ideas for the Elite
Message-ID: <003301c2aabd$4f8ee1a0$b27ede42@jhh>

Merry Christmas -- I hope you like this present:

New Alaska Governor Gives Daughter His Seat

The gift that keeps on giving...

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From emerick at chorus.net  Mon Dec 23 14:50:17 2002
From: emerick at chorus.net (Donald L Emerick)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:54 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] TipToe over True Lily Pads on Wading Waters
Message-ID: <003701c2aac4$e7394fc0$b27ede42@jhh>

Some technology stories from NYT, yesterday and today...

Many Tools of Big Brother Are Up and Running
The Pentagon's effort to detect terrorism with electronic monitoring
could rely largely on technology that is already in place. 
Going Electronic, Denver Reveals Long-Term Surveillance
Hailed widely as a major tool in the war against terrorism,
police intelligence software has its pitfalls.
An Eccentric in Residence Aims for Harmony at Time
Mark Golin, the creative director at AOL who is on loan to Time,
occupies a middle earth between the antagonistic parts of his company. 
Move to Open Government Electronically
In the next year, the federal government will attempt
to give the public easier online access to data and services. 
. Bush Administration to Propose System for Monitoring Internet
* Let no self-contradiction escape our consenting condemnation.
Knock, Knock, Knock -- Who's ever there? -- What says
"TipToe over two Lily Pads on Wading Waters"?

I figure terrorists have some new kind of battle of feints...
if they can keep "opposition" busy with fake messages,
by flooding the monitoring system, and every so often
fake the feint: one feint that is not a feint but for real...
a feint within a feint makes a faint-hearted faint feigns.

I shall revise my short list of New Year Resolutions
(#1: Continue to write NewsPoetry as if none listen.
#1a: If no one complains, what are you doing wrong?
#1b: If anyone venerates, what are you doing right?)

But, this wonderful idea of the wholesale SuperVision
by an Agency of Government of all of my NewsPoetry!
Imagine that!  I can be assured of at least one reader,
even if it were some dumb program that jerks like me
write and are happy to slam together as acts of logic
proving that it is possible to tell a machine what to do
if you do not tell it unexpected impossible things to do
in language that is exotic, bizarre, strange, weird, odd,
idiomatic and idiosyncratic, personalized imperfection,
a possibility every being has of actually realizing self
when it looks in a mirror and says, "Hi, there, big ugly!
Why doncha come up to see me some time, big guy?"

If a regime of inspections will not work, as Bush claims
with respect to a much smaller country and its objects
of physical nature, mythic Weapons of Mass Destruction,
then why do rational beings believe a monitor program
has any chance of working to detect far smaller objects
essentially subjective, debatable, indeterminate things?

Reconstructively, then, the rational object of this program
is not supportive of any war against remote, alien terrorism
but works for a mass culture of suspicion and intimidation,
one in which a police state may work secretly its arrests,
where accusations by prosecutions condemns an accused,
where evidence becomes irrelevant because it compromises
the security of the country to have to reveal what we know,
so we no longer need to present any evidence, as such,
but only to have an official of the state stand up and say:
he's guilty of all the things that I say that he is guilty --

This is how Bush secured from a complacent Congress
a vote to wage unholy war against all so-called enemies,
both foreign and domestic, of a millennial administration:
man who rides on back of tiger destined to stomach trip.

Thanks for (blah, humble bugs!) listening,
(Hint: Knock-knock answers Tiny Tim:
"To decrease the surplussed of a population,
What?  Are there no prisons nor workhouses?")
<But, what do true Lily Pads do with Tiny Tim?
Well, there was this bumpkin, a so-called singer,
once who sang 'TipToe thru the Tulips with Me"
which I think is a secretive kind of act, tiptoeing,
not squashing flowers under foot -- and then, too,
Tiny Tim is a kind of star witness in a Xmas Carol,
and 'tis a season to be jolly on your yule joyride.>
Donald L Emerick

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From gillespi at uiuc.edu  Tue Dec 24 10:03:06 2002
From: gillespi at uiuc.edu (William Gillespie)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:54 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Osama bin Laden sending encoded messages in Jonathan Franzen's The
 Corrections
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212231943170.12486-100000@staff3.cso.uiuc.edu>

Osama bin Laden is sending encoded messages in Jonathan Franzen's The
Corrections

According to online polls

Some speculate that when Franzen spoke disparagingly of Oprah Winfrey on
Fresh Air with Terry Gross, he was transmitting encrypted directives to
terrorist sleeper cells

The human heart, meanwhile, is sending encoded messages through a
documentary by Irish filmmaker Jamie Doran about US war crimes in
Afghanistan denounced by the US State Department

Denounced the documentary, that is, not the war crimes

According to insider sources, the World Trade Center attack was known
about three months beforehand by Barnes & Noble

There is little to no protection against neighbors, Americans feel, when
prompted

There was a Borders at the base of one of the World Trade Center towers

"I am displeased that my novel has been selected for Oprah's book
club, because women should not be allowed to read," Franzen told
Gross

Franzen's publisher, Saudi King Fahd, has refused to hand sales records
over to the FBI

"The messages are not from me. They are forgeries, posted through open
proxies to disguise the true origin," Franzen told Newspoetry this morning

Jonathan Franzen's blockbuster novel The Corrections has despicable
characters that invoke for many Americans feelings of nostalgia

The New York Times is sending encoded messages to US citizens through its
daily newspaper, according to recent newspoetry

.

http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.cc/war2.html
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/dec2002/docu-d21.shtml





From futrelle at shout.net  Tue Dec 24 20:53:31 2002
From: futrelle at shout.net (Editor-Within-Chief)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:54 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] End-of-newspoetry bash Dec 31
Message-ID: <p05200f01ba2ecb2d8602@[141.142.96.16]>

These are the final days of daily poems at Newspoetry.com, and in 
honor of the 4+ years of artsy, political efforts of all the 
newspoets, we are going to celebrate with a big end-of-year par-tay 
on Dec 31.

All Newspoets, writers, readers, artists, pundits, news makers, and 
news breakers are more than welcome to stop by for the appropriate 
level of debauchery and abandon.

Poetry will be read.  Loudly.

At midnight CGI scripts will silently spring into action and whisk 
the daily poem out of view, replacing it with an archived collection 
of over 1,200 daily poems from 1998-2002.

The festivities are to take place at 1205 S. Race St., Urbana, IL. 
RSVP @ 328-7853 if you feel like it.  Bring substances of the food or 
beverage variety.  Both depressants and stimulants will be available. 
The party begins at maybe like around 8 pm sharp.

Newspoetry is dead -- long live newspoetry.

pls forward this invitation to anyone and everyone.

-- 
Joe Futrelle
Editor-within-chief
http://www.newspoetry.com/


From gillespi at uiuc.edu  Fri Dec 27 09:40:12 2002
From: gillespi at uiuc.edu (William Gillespie)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:54 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] End-of-newspoetry bash Dec 31
In-Reply-To: <p05200f01ba2ecb2d8602@[141.142.96.16]>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212261136490.11029-100000@staff3.cso.uiuc.edu>

Will there be a laptop? Will the gig be recorded onto minidisc for
possible broadcast on WEFT 90.1 FM the following evening on the Eclectic
Guy's 33 1/3rd birthday bash? Can I get live drums and bass guitar for a
rocking final performance of the Ventriloquists' Administration?

On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Editor-Within-Chief wrote:

> These are the final days of daily poems at Newspoetry.com, and in
> honor of the 4+ years of artsy, political efforts of all the
> newspoets, we are going to celebrate with a big end-of-year par-tay
> on Dec 31.
>
> All Newspoets, writers, readers, artists, pundits, news makers, and
> news breakers are more than welcome to stop by for the appropriate
> level of debauchery and abandon.
>
> Poetry will be read.  Loudly.
>
> At midnight CGI scripts will silently spring into action and whisk
> the daily poem out of view, replacing it with an archived collection
> of over 1,200 daily poems from 1998-2002.
>
> The festivities are to take place at 1205 S. Race St., Urbana, IL.
> RSVP @ 328-7853 if you feel like it.  Bring substances of the food or
> beverage variety.  Both depressants and stimulants will be available.
> The party begins at maybe like around 8 pm sharp.
>
> Newspoetry is dead -- long live newspoetry.
>
> pls forward this invitation to anyone and everyone.
>
> --
> Joe Futrelle
> Editor-within-chief
> http://www.newspoetry.com/
>
> _______________________________________________
> Newspoetry maillist  -  Newspoetry@lists.groogroo.com
> http://lists.cu.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/newspoetry
>




From futrelle at shout.net  Fri Dec 27 09:43:23 2002
From: futrelle at shout.net (Joe Futrelle)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:54 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] End-of-newspoetry bash Dec 31
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212261136490.11029-100000@staff3.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212261136490.11029-100000@staff3.cso.uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <p05200f13ba322520d33f@[192.168.1.102]>

At 9:40 AM -0600 12/27/2002, William Gillespie wrote:
>Will there be a laptop? Will the gig be recorded onto minidisc for
>possible broadcast on WEFT 90.1 FM the following evening on the Eclectic
>Guy's 33 1/3rd birthday bash? Can I get live drums and bass guitar for a
>rocking final performance of the Ventriloquists' Administration?

1. Yes.  But will there be a projector?  Anyone?
2. Yes.
3. Yes.  Also distortion and wah-wah pedal will be available for 
poets if they really want to wail.  We should rehearse the v. admin. 
this weekend, no?  Who wants to play bass?

>
>On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Editor-Within-Chief wrote:
>
>>  These are the final days of daily poems at Newspoetry.com, and in
>>  honor of the 4+ years of artsy, political efforts of all the
>>  newspoets, we are going to celebrate with a big end-of-year par-tay
>>  on Dec 31.
>>
>>  All Newspoets, writers, readers, artists, pundits, news makers, and
>>  news breakers are more than welcome to stop by for the appropriate
>>  level of debauchery and abandon.
>>
>>  Poetry will be read.  Loudly.
>>
>>  At midnight CGI scripts will silently spring into action and whisk
>>  the daily poem out of view, replacing it with an archived collection
>>  of over 1,200 daily poems from 1998-2002.
>>
>>  The festivities are to take place at 1205 S. Race St., Urbana, IL.
>>  RSVP @ 328-7853 if you feel like it.  Bring substances of the food or
>>  beverage variety.  Both depressants and stimulants will be available.
>>  The party begins at maybe like around 8 pm sharp.
>>
>>  Newspoetry is dead -- long live newspoetry.
>>
>>  pls forward this invitation to anyone and everyone.
>>
>>  --
>>  Joe Futrelle
>>  Editor-within-chief
>>  http://www.newspoetry.com/
>>
>>  _______________________________________________
>>  Newspoetry maillist  -  Newspoetry@lists.groogroo.com
>  > http://lists.cu.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/newspoetry
>  >


-- 
Joe Futrelle
Person


From futrelle at ncsa.uiuc.edu  Sun Dec 29 19:56:07 2002
From: futrelle at ncsa.uiuc.edu (Joe Futrelle)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:54 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] automatic peace poem
Message-ID: <p05200f01ba3558085f31@[192.168.1.102]>

(made with googlism.com)

peace is war
peace is killing us
peace is hell
peace is still possible
peace is possible in israel
peace is one word
peace is growing days
peace is fragile
peace is here endofthesearch
peace is the basic spirit in islam
peace is an illusion
peace is islamic teaching
peace is not?
peace is just a word
peace is every step'
peace is possible petition
peace is more sensible than militarism
peace is the world smiling
peace is again starting on the wrong note
peace is a mental construct
peace is the path
peace is too important to be left only to the politicians
peace is in the us interest
peace is a product of justice
peace is torn apart
peace is ultimately a person
peace is all around us
peace is of the
peace is the core of the islamic call
peace is essential
peace is hard sell for powell
peace is patriotic
peace is accepting donations to help victims of
peace is love
peace is not merely an absence of war
peace is better than a good fight
peace is like a chemist
peace is a new address at neighborhood networks
peace is better
peace is possible in the middle east
peace is close
peace is the dominant
peace is at
peace is a woman
peace is made one by one
peace is joy at rest
peace is hell every six months the pentagon sends nearly 4
peace is still possible "if the un is not strengthened in time to avert war
peace is possible in israel a solution to the israeli
peace is growing"
peace is possible lecture/film/discussion series "peace is possible" 
is a combined initiative of meretz usa
peace is above hindutva
peace is at hand
peace is ending corruption" comment by sidney jones in the 
international herald tribune
peace is the basic spirit in islam by giasuddin ahmed purpose of 
islam the purpose of islam is to save humankind from the anguish of 
this world and the world
peace is helping
peace is possible in sudan
peace is possible"
peace is
peace is an illusion illusions rule over the world
peace is to hold the largest protest action of the year at the end of june
peace is priceless $1
peace is not
peace is just a word cd single
peace is just a word cd maxi
peace is every step
peace is possible
peace is the way inspirational quotations for peacemakers compiled by 
frederic and mary ann brussat
peace is the way
peace is more sensible than militarism american religious leaders 
calling for peaceful ways to end terrorism probably did not make many 
headlines in us
peace is tough'
peace is the world smiling music for little people chorus 2
peace is the path? peace is the path
peace is the path? "we feel too downtrodden not to be angry and revengeful
peace is more persuasive
peace is victory for fans
peace is in the us interest" interview with senator chuck hagel
peace is still possible"
peace is torn apart violence between israelis and palestinians rocks 
the middle east on
peace is the natural condition of the heart in which christ lives
peace is power
peace is coming
peace is of the nature of a conquest; for then both parties nobly are subdued
peace is now
peace is in our hands
peace is a puzzle waiting to be solved
peace is not in order
peace is hard sell for powell powell met yesterday with arafat
peace is accepting donations to help victims of the central america earthquake
peace is love peace is saying i love you
peace is not worth it
peace is not merely an absence of war but the nurture of human life
peace is a new address at neighborhood networks 04/16/2002 atlanta
peace is not the product of despair
peace is possible in the middle east op
peace is the
peace is fundamental
peace is at your doorstep
peace is created one

-- 
Joe Futrelle            http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/People/futrelle
Digital Library Technologies, NCSA/UIUC       ph  (217) 265-0296
605 E. Springfield, Champaign IL 61820        fax (217) 244-1987
"There's no world anymore. It's only--corpoRATions." -- Number 2
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From gavroche at gavroche.org  Mon Dec 30 21:02:08 2002
From: gavroche at gavroche.org (John)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:54 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Other Venues
In-Reply-To: <p05111b0cba12dbf969b3@[141.142.96.16]>
Message-ID: <BA3664D0.14EC5%gavroche@gavroche.org>

Back on Dec 3rd our Editor-Within-Chief said:

> There are and should continue to be other venues for Newspoetry

So I thought I'd ask.....Where do we as newspoets currently submit our work?
Where do we plan to submit it in the future?

I know Millenniumshift publishes political poetry (along with a lot of other
types) and pays for it too.   http://www.millenniumshift.com   Any other
favorite places?

John
gavroche@gavroche.org


From gillespi at uiuc.edu  Tue Dec 31 09:33:37 2002
From: gillespi at uiuc.edu (William Gillespie)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:54 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Other Venues
In-Reply-To: <BA3664D0.14EC5%gavroche@gavroche.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212310919310.9211-100000@staff2.cso.uiuc.edu>

I think the venues for Newspoetry are primarily those you invent. Even if
literary periodicals and the like were interested, the lag before
publication might undermine the timeliness of the newspoetry enterprise.
For me, these venues have included putting newspoems inside newspaper
machines, on bulletin boards, in bathroom stalls, in tip jars, giving them
to friends, sending them to inappropriate email lists, and leaving them in
Cary Nelson's mailbox. I have recently started to port all my newspoems to
spinelessbooks.com/newspoetry/william, including about four years
worth from before we had a website.

There have been at least two occurrences of newspoetry being reprinted in
zines and college literary journals.

Here in Urbana, The Urbana Independent Media Center publishes a newspaper
called the Public I that sometimes reprints newspoems:

http://publici.ucimc.org/

(Check it out - maybe you got published and didn't even know it.)

There has been some talk of making part of their site into a live
newspoetrywire where we could post the occasional newspoem for possible
publication in the Public I.

Watch this email list for details I guess...

William

On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, John wrote:

> Back on Dec 3rd our Editor-Within-Chief said:
>
> > There are and should continue to be other venues for Newspoetry
>
> So I thought I'd ask.....Where do we as newspoets currently submit our work?
> Where do we plan to submit it in the future?
>
> I know Millenniumshift publishes political poetry (along with a lot of other
> types) and pays for it too.   http://www.millenniumshift.com   Any other
> favorite places?
>
> John
> gavroche@gavroche.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> Newspoetry maillist  -  Newspoetry@lists.groogroo.com
> http://lists.cu.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/newspoetry
>





From futrelle at shout.net  Tue Dec 31 09:42:15 2002
From: futrelle at shout.net (Joe Futrelle)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:54 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Other Venues
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212310919310.9211-100000@staff2.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212310919310.9211-100000@staff2.cso.uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <p05200f04ba376ad23c25@[192.168.1.102]>

At 9:33 AM -0600 12/31/2002, William Gillespie wrote:
>Here in Urbana, The Urbana Independent Media Center publishes a newspaper
>called the Public I that sometimes reprints newspoems:
>
>http://publici.ucimc.org/
>
>(Check it out - maybe you got published and didn't even know it.)

Nope, I asked everyone for permission individually before letting the 
public i print anything.

>There has been some talk of making part of their site into a live
>newspoetrywire where we could post the occasional newspoem for possible
>publication in the Public I.

I have strongly suggested to them that this be a moderated space so 
that it can't be spammed by people hostile to the newspoetry idea. 
People familiar with the IMC's know that they are a lightning rod for 
spam of the worst kind, including lots of hate speech.

-- 
Joe Futrelle
Person


From emerick at chorus.net  Tue Dec 31 11:28:24 2002
From: emerick at chorus.net (Donald L Emerick)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:54 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] Unborn Fickle Memory
Message-ID: <003301c2b0f2$073e68e0$427fde42@jhh>

Unborn Fickle Memory:

impossible to recall
are the many moments
in which I pass consciously.
Am I even aware now?
I can not compare the past
with a present I now have
and do not have, not at all,
not in depth, nor in detail.

Write a journal to jog you?
It fails to say what it is.
Memory slips in replays
when chance causes heads to move,
skip from tracking sequences
from Here-now avoid next-There;
jump randomly out, backward
to some more definite time.

The past -- what there was of it --
is determinately so.
I may compare memory
only with itself again --
not with unremembered times.
And I know by counting this:
how much I live unaware,
reason recalls nothing less.

Little things -- failing O-rings
are crucial reason's ratio --
not when in time remembered
but when untimely forgotten,
erasing proper small details
properly done, forgotten.
Blurbs become us, lost in time,
and never again recalled:

Die newspoetry unborn.

Thanks for listening, pot-a-
to Donald L Emerick
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From gillespi at uiuc.edu  Tue Dec 31 17:44:36 2002
From: gillespi at uiuc.edu (William Gillespie)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:54 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] 5:52:28pm Wed Dec 10 ?>grep Bush news (Sondheim)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0212132307390.22055-100000@staff2.cso.uiuc.edu>

Bush Restoring Cash Bonuses for Political Appointees. (Bush and Bin) the
president who now apes Ronald Reagan. Bushmaster takes us "forward" into
the next one. The Bush administration has pushed the U.N. inspection team
to identify key Iraqi weapons scientists and spirit them out of Iraq so
they can be offered asylum. Elliot Abrams's selection as President Bush's
director of Middle Eastern affairs plunged him into one of the sharpest
disputes in the nation's capital. In removing the leaders of his economic
team, President Bush signaled that not even a popular wartime president
can ignore the political peril of a weak economy. The Bush administration
has recruited American writers to give readings around the globe in a
campaign to use culture to further American diplomatic interests. Two
Casualties as Bush Seeks Economic Fix. "It's a Wonderful Life" has special
resonance for the Bushes, Iraq and Sister Souljah. Bush Said to Pick Chief
of Railroad for Treasury Job: rail tycoon John W. Snow, chairman of the
CSX Corporation, has emerged as President Bush's choice to replace Paul H.
O'Neill as Treasury secretary. Bush puts a face on economic plan to put US
economy back on track. Opposition to the Bush plan for pre-emptive,
unilateral war. President Bush selected William H. Donaldson, a former
head of the New York Stock Exchange, to chair the Securities and Exchange
Commission. Europe still holds me here.  I left when there was a Bush in
oil.  George W. Bush is bound and determined to start a war over it. It's
the Hussein hunting season. There are nine things President Bush should do
to combat the current beat of the doldrums.

Mr Duncan Smith said
reports in weekend newspapers raised the question
our hearts are broken, as yours
several Arabic-language newspapers
essays would also be reprinted in foreign newspapers and
(newspapers/television), and hence actually a boojum
is what I read in the newspaper?
but we're not stopping at newspapers
the Sun agrees ("It is not a newspaper's job to hate")
and a rate can change
the male newsperson looks concerned
Newspaper? I say yes
such material may no longer surprise most of us

a match is sometimes all it takes to start a fire
with a focused cone
one last hand breaks the cemetery
surface and proffers
a sign known as the bird
we were just following orders
the poet writes its network
government report on Iraqi human
rights abuses as "opportunistic"
lie down in front of banks
the monster's arm sutured to its forehead
the network is a metonymy
standing in for the source of its control
what kind of strange between wealthy men
tempted to believe in explanation
a crude polish, a rough gloss
candy colored enamel screen
digestible information pills
a damn about structure anymore
had to impeach the president on my way to work
because the lines at the subway were too long
called off the war
because I was hungry
the thought of all those bombs being dropped
when I couldn't even get a sandwich
irked me
personal problems created conditions in
which planes could not take off
united laugh loudest in comedy of errors
contain all the emotions coming out of it and have a sense of closure

*****SPAM***** Increase Your Business by 60%
Love is life and life is livin' It's very special All my love...
Oh...oh...oh...oh...oh... (Baby, don't go) (Baby, don't go) Yeah (Baby,
don't go, uh) (Baby, don't go) Yeah (Baby, don't go) (Baby, don't go)
Yeah, yeah (Why you act like that) It's such a shame, but I'm leavin'
.
.
More details attached

     interest
 rates
 reach
 40 year
 lows

the criminal justice system we all know and love

one lover
      a court heard yesterday

but i love when someone BEGINS by saying they have no interest in an
argument

in a world brimming with bad news

     here's one of the happiest trends

the perfect gift for the Times lover on your list

as close as you can come to free love

wearing a pirate hat and boxing gloves with his arms around Tony

say hi to everyone in Brussels

clover yoked to curves, so

I love you Tyrone

love to silence.....but never could:

    "Amiri Baraka"

a counter-example is Keith Douglas who loved war:

      his poetry

queer way bequeath bow doubting sections love raise hosts leaders minister

pieces of paper. Many of the papers were love poems back to loved ones and

            love affairs.



[T]his book is a mystery, a mere chimera: it has a lovely woman's


     strains waiting


powerful kiss sensual erotic


beckoning love canal


slovenia united kingdom united states reads provocative acts between two


wife


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said Now at breasts hands







twisting lovers big cock







panties off

his







Moses and to Aaron







love for her Isaac







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lover Each time mouth felt







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face shoulder

attacks







crossed new threshold just head







leave let enjoy lover







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will make you







workers with their







And probably







love

love







 father's bed even







living in this







land of Egypt this







 all

heard.  Tyranny loves nothing better than a silent populace. As left to
the freezing dog nite of capitalism.

.


From dirk_stratton at mac.com  Tue Dec 31 17:48:31 2002
From: dirk_stratton at mac.com (dirk_stratton@mac.com)
Date: Mon Sep 28 13:33:54 2009
Subject: [Newspoetry] My Last Newspoem
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