[Peace-discuss] Saudi jet story false

[Ricky Baldwin]

Hi Carl-

On Sept. 11, Transportation Sec. Norman Y. Mineta ordered all commercial 
flights grounded until noon Thurs. Sept. 13, except for those already on the 
runway at the time.  Some airports and airlines apparently did not resume 
"service" immediately at noon, or even until Friday Sept. 14, because of 
"new security measures" or other things.  That's according to press reports 
I found.

I do not know exactly when international flights resumed.  However, the 
article Michael Moore cited, as well as the ones you brought to our 
attention, report that the Saudis left town after international flights were 
allowed.  Maybe that isn't so, or maybe it is.  I don't know.  All I know is 
so far we haven't seen any evidence that the Saudis were allowed to fly when 
no one else was.  And I believe in such cases the burden of proof is on the 
one making the allegation, not the one who disputes the evidence presented 
(technically).  We can wonder, we can speculate - about any number of things 
we don't know - but I checked Moore's source, and read your postings.  Nada. 
  Is there more on this that I don't see?  Am I just being difficult - 
again?

Ricky


>From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at alexia.lis.uiuc.edu>
>To: Ricky Baldwin <baldwinricky at hotmail.com>
>CC: 
>peace-discuss at lists.cu.groogroo.com,prairiegreens-org at lists.groogroo.com
>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Saudi jet story false
>Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 14:59:53 -0500
>
>How do the dates work out?  How long was the grounding of all aircraft
>over the US?  International flights?
>
>The family members et al. were apparently flown out of the country one
>week after 9/11, and private internal flights collected them before that.
>
>CGE
>
>
>On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Ricky Baldwin wrote:
>
> > Congressman,
> >
> > There may be a story here.  Unfortunately, it isn't the one Michael
> > Moore is telling.  I say this as a longtime fan of his.  I don't know
> > if you heard his version, but he emphasizes that the Saudis were
> > allowed to leave "without being questioned" and that this occurred
> > "two days after Sept. 11,"  when all other planes were still grounded.
> > This is pretty creepy and also clearly false, as far as any of these
> > press reports can be believed, including the citations you so
> > dutifully bring to our attention.
> >
> > Not that it's worth having a protracted debate about, as there clearly
> > is collusion between the rich families of the world - including the
> > Bush-bin Laden connection - but I think we do have to be careful in
> > making this point not to undermine our own credibility by
> > misrepresenting the tale.  Like the attacks on Sept 11 themselves, I
> > think this story is damning enough without the spooky stuff.
> >
> > Just thought folks might want to know.  Nobody's bringing any tablets
> > down from any mountains here.  We all deserve to be checked, that's
> > all.
> >
> > podemos,
> >
> > Ricky
> >
>
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