[Peace-discuss] Fwd: Demonstrations all over the planet

Alfred Kagan akagan at uiuc.edu
Mon Feb 17 14:03:17 CST 2003


FYI

>
>  >From: "paul illich" <paul_illich at hotmail.com>
>>Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 12:12:57 +0000
>>Subject: [107disc] Demonstrations from all over the planet
>>
>>Complied from posts to the BlueGreenEarth Yahoo! Groups forum:
>>:
>>
>>AUSTRIA:
>>http://wn.com/link/nph-link.cgi?austrianews/stories.txt&18658121
>>&http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edawn%2Ecom%2F2003%2F02%2F15%
>>2Fint10%2Ehtm
>>| VIENNA, Feb 14: Austria, a neutral country, has
>>banned the transit of US troops or military equipment
>>across its territory unless there is a new UN Security
>>Council resolution authorizing a war...(cont)
>>
>>BELGIUM:
>>http://www.motherearth.org/nowar/en/home_en.php
>>- - Stop the War details for Brussels
>>
>>BRAZIL:
>>http://srd.yahoo.com/S=19689368:D1/CS=19689368/SS=95638752/
>>*http://brasil.indymedia.org/
>>http://www.midiaindependente.org/pt/blue/2003/02/247606.shtml
>>- - Brazil is having a car-ne-val!
>>
>>BULGARIA:
>>Bulgarians are pissed off that Iraq is not going to
>>pay back the money they owe them. They are also not
>>too thrilled with being shut out of the emergency UN
>>meeting on Monday. They had their main protest on
>>Feb09. Probable protests today as well but their
>>newspapers are in cyrillic script...which looks funny.
>>http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=19077
>>
>>CANADA:
>>http://www.acp-cpa.ca/february15thevents.htm
>>- - 77 Canadian towns say NO!
>>http://www.canada.com/search/story.aspx?id=b7ad8e25-0c
>>51-4821-9903-7b0b57656e2c
>>- - Grannies in Vancouver on war protests too!
>>
>>CHINA:
>>http://www.unitedforpeace.org/calendar.php?calid=1506
>>- - HK protest
>>http://www1.chinadaily.com.cn/news/cn/2003-02-15/
>>104644.html
>>- - Government's opinion
>>http://www1.chinadaily.com.cn/news/cn/2003-02-14/
>>104580.html
>>- - Students say no.
>>
>>DENMARK:
>>http://www.nejtilkrig.dk/
>>
>>- -event in Copenhagen
>>http://www.resist.org.uk/reports/archive/misc/copenhagen.html
>>- - report from the main event back in Dec02
>>
>>***ECUADOR***
>>http://ecuador.indymedia.org/es/2003/01/1558.shtml
>>
>>***EGYPT***
>>http://allafrica.com/stories/200301200467.html
>>
>>***FINLAND***
>>http://members.surfeu.fi/ewk/eiiskuairakiin/
>>
>>FRANCE***
>>http://www.cyberhumanisme.org/breves.html#52
>>- - a list of all demos
>>http://site.voila.fr/PENN974
>>- - Reunion Island gets in on the act.
>>
>>I defer to the one with the gas and airline carrier
>>problems...although I guess it's real early for Europe
>>protests.
>>
>>GERMANY***
>>http://www.15februar.de/
>>- - demo list
>>http://www.expertbase.net/f15/
>>- - radio live from the Berlin rally
>>
>>GREECE***
>>http://users.otenet.gr/~ergatiki/main.htm
>>- - Athens demo
>>http://www.mpa.gr/article.html?doc_id=326008
>>- - Thessaloniki has three demos (news report)
>>http://www.mpa.gr/article.html?doc_id=325488
>>- - earlier in the week Greece refused troops to Turkey
>>and Iraq to show solidarity with NATO.
>>
>>***HUNGARY***
>>http://www.humanista.hu/
>>- - Budapest demo is listed on United For Peace BUT...
>  >http://www.budapestsun.com/full_story.asp?ArticleId=
>>{6DCB7359699E453D8477C1802BBD5290}&From=News
>>- - This story was printed in the Budapest Sun saying
>>the peace demo had been refused as a Neo-Nazi event
>>was happening on that day. Blood and Honor of all
>>people! This is a very bad thing.
>>
>>***ICELAND***
>>http://icelandreview.com/ir.asp?cat_id=936&module_id=
>>220&element_id=3756
>>- - Apparently US military pilots need to be guided over
>>the Atlantic Ocean. Funny thing is...it hasn't moved.
>>Can't find a demo listed for Rekyavik
>>
>>INDIA***
>>http://www.unitedforpeace.org/calendar.php?calid=1892
>>- - Bombay demo
>>http://www.indiapress.org/gen/news1.php/39/400x60/0
>>- - Indian government is strongly against Iraq war. PM
>>asks "How can we support?"
>>
>>***INDONESIA***
>>http://c.moreover.com/click/here.pl?x60871681&
>>- - Indonesia to continue with anti-war stance
>>http://c.moreover.com/click/here.pl?x60901794&
>>- - Oz's PM says he won't try to sway Indonesian
>>opinion.
>>http://www.cnn.com/interactive/world/0302/gallery.asia/
>>content.1.html
>  >- - Jakarta this morning
>>
>>***IRAQ***
>>http://peacemakers.ohah.net/
>>- - Japanese civ's go to meet and greet
>>
>>Subject: 150,000 demonstrate against war in Melbourne
>>HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK
>>---------------------------
>>AP. 14 February 2003. At least 150,000 demonstrate in Melbourne to
>>protest possible war with Iraq.
>>
>>MELBOURNE -- At least 150,000 people packed streets in Melbourne on
>>Friday to protest against the looming war with Iraq and Australia's
>>possible involvement in a U.S.-led assault.
>>
>>Police estimated 150,000 people participated, while organizers put the
>>crowd at 200,000, making it the biggest peace protest in the country
>>since marches 30 years ago against the Vietnam War in which Australian
>>troops fought alongside U.S. forces.
>>
>>Friday's march was the first in a series of demonstrations planned in
>>Australia in the coming days. Similar peace rallies were scheduled
>>across the world over the weekend.
>>
>>Greens Senator Bob Brown said the size of the crowd showed Prime
>>Minister John Howard did not have a mandate to take Australia to war
>>against Iraq.
>>
>>"This is a huge statement by the people of Melbourne, and the people of
>>Australia to John Howard: that he's gone the wrong way and should turn
>>around," Brown told the crowd. "The people of Australia don't see this
>>as our war."
>>
>>The Melbourne rally started with the eerie sound of mock air raid sirens
>>symbolizing air attacks on Baghdad.
>>
>>Protesters gathered outside the State Library waving placards with
>>slogans including: "No War for Oil" and "Howard's End," a reference to
>>the potentially damaging political fallout for Howard of joining a
>>U.S.-led strike on Iraq despite widespread public opposition to any
>>Australian involvement without a U.N. mandate.
>>
>>"It is an amazing scene here with you today in a show of solidarity to
>>send a strong message to Prime Minister Howard and the Australian
>>government that Australians don't want war," Democrat Sen. Natasha Stott
>>Despoja told the huge crowd.
>>
>>The protest, organized by student groups, unions and churches, was to
>>end later Friday with a music concert in central Melbourne.
>>There were no reports of trouble in the large crowd.
>>
>>Anti-war rally in Sarajevo
>>HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK
>>---------------------------
>>AP. 14 February 2003. Bosnian anti-war group protests outside U.S.
>>embassy.
>>
>>SARAJEVO -- Mindful of the ravages of war, up to 500 protesters
>>demonstrated peacefully Friday in Bosnia's shell-scarred capital against
>>a possible conflict on Iraq.
>>
>>Carrying banners reading "Disarm U.S.A!," "OILympic Games!" and others,
>>the protesters gathered in downtown Sarajevo and marched in the frigid
>>winter air to the U.S. Embassy, where they stood quietly for half an
>>hour as dozens of police officers stood by.
>>
>>"This is a peaceful demonstration against war and violence in general,"
>>said Fedja Stukan, 28, a local actor who organized the march, adding
>>that no political groups or organizations were involved.
>>"This is not a protest against Bush or Saddam, but anti-war,
>  >anti-fascist demonstrations of Bosnians who want to say 'no' to war
>>which they themselves have experienced," Stukan said.
>>Senad Pecanin, the editor-in-chief of the local independent news
>>magazine Dani, carried a banner that read "For Bush or for Saddam?
>>Neither for one or the other!"
>>
>>"We want to say that any war means destruction and all the people here
>>know how many innocent civilians may die," Pecanin said, referring to
>>Bosnia's 1992-95 war between the country's Muslims, Croats and Serbs
>>which killed more than 200,000 people -- mostly civilians.
>>The protest came a day before scheduled anti-war rallies all around the
>>world.
>>
>>
>>Anti-war rally in Manila
>>HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK
>>---------------------------
>>AP. 14 February 2003. Thousands of Filipinos join anti-war march to U.S.
>>Embassy.
>>
>>MANILA -- Chanting "U.S. imperialist, No. 1 terrorist," thousands of
>>protesters marched to the U.S. Embassy in Manila on Friday in a rally
>>against a possible U.S. attack on Iraq.
>>
>>About 5,000 marchers led by the leftist alliance Bayan and 1,000 more
>  >from the left-wing group Sanlakas marched to the seaside embassy from
>>opposite directions. Hundreds of riot police prevented them from
>>occupying the area directly in front of the compound.
>>There was a brief scuffle as the demonstrators tried to break through
>>the police line. Earlier in the day, a small group of women protesters
>>also scuffled with a group of pro-U.S. demonstrators who had occupied a
>>park in front of the embassy. There were no serious injuries in either
>>encounter.
>>
>>Riot police were backed by several fire trucks and SWAT teams, plus a
>>police special forces contingent that has been stationed at the embassy
>>since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks in the United States.
>>The demonstrators, many carrying banners and placards saying "No to U.S.
>>war on Iraq" and "Make love not war," sharply criticized President
>>Gloria Macapagal Arroyo.
>>
>>"This is one of those rare issues that has united rich and poor, radical
>>and moderate, Muslim and Christian. And yet, President Gloria Macapagal
>>Arroyo refuses to listen," said Bayan secretary general Teodoro Casino.
>>Before dispersing, the demonstrators burned a mock U.S. missile.
>>Organizers scheduled a peace concert at a park later in the evening.
>>IRELAND***
>>http://ireland.indymedia.org/
>>- - font of all knowledge
>>http://irishantiwar.org/
>>- - demo details
>>http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=10
>>&si=919137&issue_id=8768
>>- - Report of Irish response to Blix yesterday
>>http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2003/0215/
>>index.htm
>>- - Breaking news from Dublin
>>
>>***ITALY***
>>http://www.fermiamolaguerra.it/
>>- - Rome demo
>>http://italy.indymedia.org/
>>- - check the pic at the top of the page
>>
>>***JAPAN***
>>http://give-peace-a-chance.jp/e215/
>>- - Tokyo demo
>>http://www.cnn.com/interactive/world/0302/gallery.asia/
>>content.7.html
>>- - demo pic from CNN
>>http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=1&id
>>=249635
>>- - report from Tokyo demo
>>http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=home
>>- - poll on homepage says 54% of JapanToday readers
>>think war will come THIS month.
>>http://c.moreover.com/click/here.pl?x60872624&
>>- - Japan tells nationals in Iraq to get out now.
>>http://awn.ath.cx/project/report_e.html
>>- - demo report from Shibuya 02Feb03
>>
>>KOREA, SOUTH***
>>http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2003/2/15/latest/
>>10277Protesters&sec=latest/
>>- - Demo in Seoul
>>http://www1.chinadaily.com.cn/news/cn/2003-02-14/
>>104569.html
>>- - plans to work with China for peace
>>
>>***LUXEMBOURG***
>>http://www.fridden.lu/
>>- - for novelty value
>>
>>***MACEDONIA***
>>http://www.mia.com.mk/ang/Vest.asp?vest=\1\
>>safdadfa.htm
>>- - demo yesterday in Skopje
>>
>>***MALAYSIA***
>>http://www.goasiapacific.com/news/GoAsiaPacific
>>BNA_785282.htm
>>- - Malaysian perspective
>>http://www.goasiapacific.com/news/GoAsiaPacific
>>BNA_777695.htm
>>- - Malaysian PM fears Muslim risings.
>>http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/200302060019104.php
>>- - demo in KL
>>http://www.cnn.com/interactive/world/0302/gallery.asia/
>>content.4.html
>  >- - pics from demo from CNN
>>
>>MALTA***
>>http://www.movimentgraffitti.org/
>>- - demo in Valletta
>>
>>***MEXICO***
>>http://www.geocities.com/noennuestronombre/
>>- - demo details
>>no other details at the moment.
>>
>>***MOROCCO***
>>http://www.ptb.be/scripts/article.phtml?obid=18042&lang=2
>>- - report of demo in Jan, sorry it's not in English.
>>
>>***NETHERLANDS***
>>http://www.wereldcrisis.nl/
>>- - demo details
>>http://indymedia.nl/nl/2003/02/9364.shtml
>>- - pics from demo
>>
>>NEW ZEALAND***
>>http://www.converge.org.nz/pma/
>>- - demo details
>>http://www.indymedia.org.nz/search-process.php3?medium=
>>image&searchlang=&keyword=
>>- - everything in NZ on film plus all the lead-up stuff
>>http://www.cnn.com/interactive/world/0302/gallery.asia/
>>content.2.html
>>- - CNN pics
>>http://abc.net.au/ra/newstories/RANewsStories_785233.htm
>>- - ABC report
>>
>>
>>***NIGERIA***
>>http://allafrica.com/stories/200302140061.html
>>- - very interesting interview with the Nigerian
>>ambassador to the US who has just returned home.
>>
>>***NORWAY***
>>http://www.ingenkrig.no/
>>- - Oslo demo
>  >http://www.norwaypost.no/content.asp?folder_id=1&
>>cluster_id=22035
>>- - reaction to the burning of a US flag on live TV.
>>http://www.norwaypost.no/newdev/cache/fmemc.asp?sUrl=
>>%2Fdefault%2Easp%3Ffolder%5Fid%3D1
>>- - Norway not about to join America
>>
>>PAKISTAN***
>>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030215/
>>ap_wo_en_ge/as_gen_pakistan_anti_war_protest_1
>>- - News report of demo
>>http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=
>>story_15-2-2003_pg3_4
>>
>>PALESTINE***
>>http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Articles.asp?Article=
>>44036&Sn=WORL
>>- - Demo report from Gaza.
>>
>>
>>***PERU***
>>http://peru.indymedia.org/news/2003/02/318.php
>>
>>- - demo listing for Lima
>>
>>***PHILIPPINES***
>>http://www.cnn.com/interactive/world/0302/gallery.asia/
>>content.6.html
>>- - pics from CNN
>>>>>BUT no mention on any 'pines news source that demos
>>are happening in their country...how very 1984<<<<
>>
>>***POLAND***
>>http://www.republika.pl/stopwojnie/
>>- - Warsaw demo details
>>No other info in English at the mo.
>>
>>***PORTUGAL***
>>http://olifante.netropolis.pt/
>>- - Faro details
>>http://the-news.net/cgi-bin/story.pl?title=Ex-pats%20against
>>%20war&edition=690
>>- - article about ex-pats not happy about war
>>http://pt.indymedia.org/
>>- - neat poster
>>
>>
>>RUSSIA***
>>http://www.themoscowtimes.com/doc/HotNews.html#34028
>>- - Ukranians protest
>>Not much else on web that is a) free and b) in
>>English.
>>
>>***SERBIA***
>>http://www.tehrantimes.com/Description.asp?Da=2/15/03&
>>Cat=2&Num=14
>>
>>- - an odd aricle from Iran about Serbian opinion on
>>Iraq...
>>
>>***SLOVENIA***
>>http://www.acmolotov.org/
>>- - Ljubliana demo details
>>no news online in English
>>
>>***SOUTH AFRICA***
>>http://www.anc.org.za/
>>- - congress back peace
>>http://www.sabcnews.com/politics/the_parties/0,1009,
>>51744,00.html
>>- - news report
>>http://sa.indymedia.org/news/2003/02/3097.php
>>- - another report
>>http://allafrica.com/stories/200302140424.html
>>- - S.A. says no...because they are smart.
>>
>>SPAIN***
>>http://www.nodo50.org/csca/agenda2003/brigadas_eng.html
>>- - Spanish anti-war page with info on people going to
>>Iraq
>>http://barcelona.indymedia.org/?language_desplegable=en
>>&Submit=enviar
>>- - loads of info on Spanish actions
>>http://www.zmag.org/sustainers/content/2003-02/13oliveri.cfm
>>
>>- - Gives a good idea of how Spain feels at the moment
>>
>>***SWEDEN***
>>http://www.stoppakriget.tk/
>>- - another powerful image at the top of the page
>>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030203/
>>ap_wo_en_po/eu_gen_sweden_iraq_poll_1
>>- - Poll results
>>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030115/
>>ap_wo_en_po/eu_gen_sweden_persson_1
>>- - Swedish PM's opinion
>>
>>***SWITZERLAND***
>>http://www.gssa.ch/antiguerre/
>>- - details of demos
>>http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=105
>>&sid=1633289
>>- - News pic
>>http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=105
>>&sid=1632672
>>- - Gov tells people what they're doing (definitely not
>>in UK)
>>http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=105
>>&sid=1632156
>  >- - US Embassies closed in Geneva and Zurich...for
>>security. Watch out for that cuckoo clock, tick,
>>tock...
>>
>>***TAIWAN***
>>http://www.cnn.com/interactive/world/0302/gallery.asia/
>>content.3.html
>>- - pics from demo
>>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/030215/168/
>>3a3g4.html
>>- - More pics, links to 5 pages
>>http://www.chinastudygroup.org/
>>- - has details of demo, also has more on China
>>http://c.moreover.com/click/here.pl?x60873195&
>>http://c.moreover.com/click/here.pl?x60878007&
>>http://c.moreover.com/click/here.pl?x60899110&
>>
>>TAJIKISTAN***
>>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030213/
>>ap_wo_en_ge/as_gen_tajikistan_us_terrorism_1
>>- - The US have bought all their troops nice shiny
>>uniforms for when they go to war
>>
>>***THAILAND***
>>http://www.cnn.com/interactive/world/0302/gallery.asia/content.5.html
>>- - pics from their demo
>>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/030215/168/
>>3a36g.html
>>- - more pics (8 pages)
>>
>>***TURKEY***
>>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030213/
>>ap_wo_en_ge/eu_gen_turkey_iraq_protest_1
>  >- - Report of their demo earlier in the week
>>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/030126/170/34g2y.html
>>- - photos (16 pages) of the Jan demo
>>
>>EAST TIMOR***
>>http://jakarta.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=1177
>>&group=webcast
>>
>>- - East Timor checks in
>>
>>CZECH REP***
>>http://www.novinky.cz/00/25/83.html
>>- - thru the eyes of the czechs
>>
>>MALTA***
>>http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=
>>237229&group=webcast
>>- - MALTA report
>>
>>NETHERLAND***
>>http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=237233
>>&group=webcast
>>- - AMSTERDAM report
>>"Jerry Dawson" <j.dawson2 at chello.nl>
>>Subject: [mt] Amsterdam demo
>>
>>Quick report -
>>It was freezing cold - with wind chill about -8C.
>>
>>Still, the organisers had hoped on 20-30,000 showing up. Instead,
>>there was 70-80,000. The second biggest demo in history (only the
>>demo when the AMericans wanted to put cruise missiles in Holland in
>>1981 was bigger - but that was half a million!)
>>
>>So, in our terms, very big! Especially considering there are no pans
>>to send Dutch troops to Iraq.
>>
>>Even my mother-in-law showed up. ALthough she was quite annoying, so
>>maybe next time, rather not :-)
>>jerry
>>
>>UK*******************
>>
>>Slideshows...
>>http://www.gudeman.co.uk/150203/index.htm
>>http://fire.ethosuk.org.uk/~scott/random/WAR/
>>
>>news:
>>http://www.guardian.co.uk/antiwar/story/0,12809,894460,00.html
>>- - from weds 13/02/03
>>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030211/
>>media_nm/iraq_britain_newsreaders_dc_1
>>- - BBC bans newshands from rally 11/02/03
>>http://www.dailytelegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/
>>2003/02/13/do1301.xml/
>>- - Armando Iannucci is good.
>>http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=237177&group=webcast
>>- - vid this arvo showing all you lovely folks doing the
>>business.
>>http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-12246791,00.html
>>- - the news report. Estimates vary by a full million
>>>>>this has got to be a record<<<
>>http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-12246276,00.html
>>- - Billy Bragg and others say what they think
>>
>>- - SCOTLAND
>>http://uk.indymedia.org/index.php3?resist=scotland
>>"Ken Harvey" <ken at gudeman.co.uk>
>>Subject: [mt] Mini report from Glasgow
>>
>>Well, headed out in good time for my train, only to realise that I'd
>>forgotten to get cash from the hole in the wall to pay for m'ticket.
>>Legged it round the corner, got said cash, arrived back in time to see
>>lovely shiny new Virgin shwooosh out of the station. (
>>Apols to Gina, Roy and caroline, btw. I know I promised I'd be at
>>Central, to help carry the postcards, but it was a case of circumstances
>>conspiring to hold me back this am).
>>
>>Nipped back to main st, got some sarnies and juice, and headed up the
>>M74 in my car.  LOADS of coaches with peace logos, aged hippies and
>>assorted smiley folks.
>>
>>Stopped at Hamilton Services for p.break and met Helen, friend from Uni,
>>who was travelling up with the Dumfries contingent, so kidnapped her and
>>headed for Glasgow again.
>  >
>>Arrived at Cambridge Street, parked up and headed down to meet up with
>>iRoy, Dr Caroline and Gina-a-a-a.  Much stooging around at lions till I
>>remembered what the mobie and MTCTCSMRESMERJS, AL, was for.
>>Last time I demo'd in George Sq was the Poll Tax and, I dunno, maybe it
>>was the huge fuckoff ferris wheel with candy pink heart, maybe it was
>>the sunshine, or the colourful peeps, but this felt a LOT happier. Much
>>family friendlyness evidenced with pushchairs and whole families going
>>"Wow, this is huge..."
>>
>>Started handing out postcards, but quickly realised there was little or
>>no point being either up or downstream of Mr Death Roy, as his scythe
>>and coat was attracting FAR too much attention and folks were ignoring
>>my feeble attempts to stuff cards in their mits. "Hey, the guy in the
>>fancy dress might be doing something weird...you, well, you just look
>>weird".  Gina and me headed to the far side of the road and had much fun
>>distributing till we'd all but run out.
>>
>>By then reports were coming in that the 'end' of the procession was
>>STILL in Glasgow Green but the front end had disappeared over the hill
>  >(Chris' long straight road).  So the march was at least 2 miles long.
>>And still folks were arriving!
>>
>>Gods, even the polis were happy smiley sorts. And there weren't that
>>many of them. Stunning.
>>
>>OK, off from George Square we went, in front of the FBU campaign fire
>>engine and, allegedly, a Police Fed rep in a squad car. (Closely
>>followed by three trojans full of spare coppers)
>>
>>Much good natured walking up the big hill, gorgeous sunshine, terrific
>>variety of architecture. Old preVictorian townhouses and pseudo NY
>>skyscrapers in miniature shoulder to shoulder. 'kin gorgeous city.
>>Great tip, btw, Roy is pretty easy to spot in a crowd. Or maybe it was
>>the scythe.. But it meant I could walk ahead, rest my  leg, fall behind,
>>catch up. All the while watching our landmark listers progress.
>>Just about Finnieston we were stopped, prolly to allow traffic to pass,
>>and to allow the front end of the procession to be packed into the SECC
>>carp park.  We fell back a little and joind the MAB marchers, complete
>>with truck mounted missile...tho that didn't seem to make it as far as
>>the SECC? And headed along the Clydeside, and int the carpark. The noise
>>was terrific, and, coming over the ridge of the banking above the
>>carpark, it just looked like a sea of bodies.  The grass on the sunny
>>side of the park looked dry enough to sit on, hell, I'd of sat in mud by
>>that stage, and everyone lonked themselves down and went sortof
>>"phew...."
>>
>>Periodically there were announcements on the PA, much cheering,
>>whistling drumming, and eventually a HUGE eruption of noise for about
>>five minutes. I've no idea if it was timed to coincide with someone
>>leaving (who?) or they just decided, fuckit, we came here to do this so
>>lets do it!
>>
>>Faces kept appearing out of the crowd. Well, one face appeared out of
>>the sky, but tat was just a wee drunk gadgy falling off the top of the
>>banking into Gina and I. Nice lad. Good humoured drunkenly chatted and
>>went on his way.  Roy had toddled off to phogrottyfy people, and when he
>>came back he said that there was a clear space in front of the SECC
>>where you could get thru to. So I headed off to get some pix too.
>>
>>Finally found the plod colony. They were arranged along the front of the
>>SECC, about thirty yards behind barriers, well away from the crowds who
>>were, by and large, ignoring them and looking the other way.  Apparently
>>some folk were speaking from the top of a double decker bus, but, as
>>they weren't allowed a proper stage or sound system it did sound a bit
>>like megaphone shouting comeptition.
>>
>>Walked back thru crowd, singing We Shall Overcome, chatted to a few folk
>>who looked friendier than the rest of the friendly, and eventually got
>>back to Helen and Gina.  Decided to head off ahead of the crowds and go
>>get something to eat before trains and carpark deadlines bit.
>>Arrived back at chez Almagill, oh, 7ish, and have been sat trying to
>>stay awake long enough to post pix and type this!
>  >All in all, a GREAT day. No idea of actual figures but the police
>>estimated 27-30,000. News tonight, IF they managed to mention it,
>>suggested 'tens of thoussands'.  Hey, it looked a LOT more!!  6 to 8
>>abreast for 2 and a bit miles, that's a LOT of folk.
>>No trouble, as far as I could see. Even as we left Glasgow there were
>>folk going around grinning and saying "Oh, yeah, that was great..."
>>Now trying to stop feet, and wrists(??) from hurting like hell. And
>>heading for bed I think, unless I get distracted by pretty lights.
>>
>>USA Pt1 **************************
>>http://www.unitedforpeace.org/feb15.html
>>- - check ufp for the godknowshowmany
>>towns/cities/states taking part.
>>Quick run down follows but is in no way inclusive:
>>http://boston.indymedia.org/
>>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/030213/168/
>>39or4.html
>>- - Boston
>>http://chicago.indymedia.org/
>>http://www.chicagoantiwar.org/
>>- - Chicago
>>http://www.mecawi.org/
>>http://www.freep.com/news/locway/peac11_20030211.htm
>>- - Detroit
>>http://www.answerla.org/index8.html
>>http://www.calendarlive.com/galleriesandmuseums/cl-et-
>  >knight15jan15.story
>>- - LA (2nd link is about an art show for peace)
>>***NYC***
>>http://f15.nycimc.org/
>>- - updates are now coming thru and pics will be added
>>***NYC***
>>http://www.phillyimc.org/
>>http://www.unitedforpeace.org/calendar.php?calid=1407
>>- - Philly
>>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2003/
>>02/12/MN108576.DTL
>>- -SF Bay
>>http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=519&e=1&u=/ap/
>>20030215/ap_on_re_us/us_anti_war_protests
>>
>>- - UN rally attended by M. Luther King III and Dezza
>>Tutu.
>>
>>------------
>>timeline from new york indymedia http://f15.nycimc.org/ (thanks Jerry)
>>
>>F16 12:40am The 20 snake-marchers arrested at 39th & 8th were held on the
>>bus for five hours, were processed at central booking, and have been been
>>transferred to the 7th precinct, 19 1/2 Pitt Steet at Delancey,
>>212-477-7311.
>>F15 9:24pm Due to a printing error, several of the promotional materials for
>>tonight's benefit party have the wrong address. The correct address is 38-09
>>31st St in Queens. We're going til 4 a.m. Come join us.
>>F15 8:44pm There are 15 people (including 1 legal observer) at the vigil at
>>1 Police Plaza. The National Lawyers Guild is asking for more legal support
>>staff to come down. We have an unconfirmed report that the arrestees will
>>not be released until tomorrow morning.
>>F15 8:25pm United for Peace & Justice spokesperson Chris Pasteraro reports
>>that UFPJ's phonelines at their 42nd St. office went down at 11:30 a.m.
>>Saturday just as 67 feeder marches were getting underway. UFPJ was unable to
>>communicate with feeder march liaisons. The phones briefly resumed working
>>at 12:20 p.m. but went down again at 1 p.m. "We've been in this building for
>>a month,"Pasteraro said, "and we've never had any trouble until today."
>>F15 7:17pm 311 confirmed arrests. Detainees locked in buses at 1 Police
>>Plaza, just behind 100 Center Street. United For Peace and Justice asking
>>for people to go down to Police HQ or their or flood their switchboard.
>>212-374-3921 An unknown number of people have been hospitalized as a result
>>of being trampled on by horses.
>>F15 7:04pm Unconfirmed of 20 arrests at 39th street between 7th and 8th
>>avenue. Another nearby group of approx. 100 protesters facing a potential
>>mass arrest.
>>F15 6:51pm New York seems to be calming down from one of its largest days of
>>protest ever. We will continue to post more updates as we recieve them.
>>F15 5:54pm The St. Marks Snake March has largely dissipated. Marchers
>>reached Astor Place abd held a moment of silence to remember those beaten
>>today by the police.
>>F15 5:49pm 300-400 people are marching down 5th Avenue and 18th st. The
>>police have just arrived.
>>F15 5:27pm The Snake March from St. Marks has moved to Houston to 2nd
>>Avenue. The march is moving on and off the sidewalk. No reports of police
>>harassment.
>>F15 5:17pm 200-250 protestors assembling at St, Marks and 2nd for a Snake
>>March. Police are present with horses and vans.
>>F15 5:11pm Times Square Update: The police have blocked off 8th Avenue south
>  >of 42nd street; Times Square is cut in half by police and small groups of
>>protesters continue to mill around.
>>F15 5:04pm Reports of protestors establishing a street blockade at 34th st
>>and 6th Ave. A large group left Times Square, marched to 34th and 6th, and
>>held the intersection for several minutes.
>>F15 4:53pm We have heard reports, unconfirmed, of unprovoked arrests
>>earlier in the day on 92nd and 2nd Ave between 1:30 and 2:00pm. Our source
>>is telling us that he saw several high school students arrested and maced.
>>*** We have started to get many reports of police brutality throughout the
>>day. While you can call the IMC to report on todays events, we would
>>encourage you to post your own experiences directly to our newswire.
>>F15 4:49pm We are hearing reports of police brutality outside Times Square,
>>42nd St and 7th Ave; police on horses running into and over protesters.
>>F15 4:23pm About 200 people are on 42nd street and 6th Ave, with no police
>>presence, heading west.
>>F15 4:17pm 52nd and Lexington: The southern line of horse-cops backed off,
>  >but then the northern line pressed into the crowd. Cops on foot were
>>shoving people out of the intersection, trying to get people moving again.
>>They reportedly beat an old man.
>>F15 4:12pm The 50-100 people at 52nd and Lexington have sat down in the
>>street. A line of cops on horseback have moved in from the north, and
>>another line have moved in from the south. The southern line is riding into
>>the crowd.
>>F15 4:11pm Times Square subway station is closed; no one is allowed in or
>>out. Times Square webcams.
>>F15 4:00pm Critical Mass cyclists have left, but 30 people on foot are on
>>7th ave between 47th and 48th chanting, "This is what democracy looks
>>like." Police are preparing to make arrests.
>>F15 3:59pm People at Lexington between 51st and 52nd have surged into the
>>streets, surrounding traffic and groups of police officers.
>>F15 3:37pm Critical mass shut down Times Square for about 5 minutes. About
>>20 to 30 bikes and 100 people surrounded Times Square, but we are hearing
>>that the police have begun to move people out of the way.
>>F15 3:34pm Reports of 300 police at Times Square.
>>F15 3:24pm 57th and 2nd: The crowd has taken the streets and is chanting
>>"Whose streets? Our streets?" Police have not made any arrests or injuries,
>>but they are using their horses to push the crowd with their horses back on
>>to the sidewalk.
>>F15 3:01pm 53rd and 3d Avenue: People on the west side of the barricade
>>have been trying to negotiate with the police but they may be getting ready
>>to storm it. There have been seven or eight reported arrests. There have
>>been reports of plainclothes policemen have been getting very violent with
>>protesters.
>>3:04 50th and 3rd: Unconfirmed reports that people marching on the sidewalk
>>were attacked by police. Completely peaceful when police attacked crowd.
>>Mass pepper-spraying of crowd and large amounts of police violence. There
>>is a report that there is a severe lack of medical help at the scene. There
>>were men, women and children in the crowd.
>>53rd and 3d: Crowd has been corralled on all four corners. Police are
>>pushing the crowd against the buildings.
>>F15 3:00pm There have been 2 reported arrests at 2nd avenue and 57th street
>>of people trying to storm a barricade. The crowd has begun getting very
>>restless and has begun shouting "War means War."
>>F15 2:42pm Estimate from organizers and the mainstream media on crowd size:
>>the rally on 1st avenue streches many blocks north. NYPD usually estimates
>>7000 people can fill an avenue block. Including the additonal people
>>trapped by police at 2nd and 3d organizers estimate over half a million
>>people.
>>F15 2:40pm More reports of police violence at 53d and Third. There were
>>reports of people climbing atop barricades and being pushed off by police,
>>about 25 on horses, plus others coming out of buses. The police have
>>started to push the crowd back from 53rd street. However, people are
>>completely trapped with nowhere to go
>>2:18 pm 2:04 At 53d and 3d Avenue, New Yorkers rushed the street barricade
>  >and 15 people made it through. Ten minutes later a group of 8 or 9
>>anti-capitalists linked arms and organized a second rush on a barricade.
>>About 50 or 60 other people joined them in the rush. The police brought in
>>reinforcements, maced 15 or more people, and pushed the crowd back.
>>1:50 Sources report that police have begun arresting demonstrators on 54th
>>and 2nd Avenue.
>>1:43 First avenue is reported to be completely inacccessible-- people who
>>want to get there to protest cannot. 2nd avenue is full wall to wall in the
>>60's. We are hearing reports that the police on 3d avenue have given up,
>>though this isn't confirmed.
>>1:37 A smaller group of people made it out of the 51st / 3d Avenue pen and
>>were herded north on 2nd avenue. It is a diverse group. They are now being
>>stopped by a row of mounted police on 54th st, and they cannot move north.
>>1:24 We have reports that portions of Second Avenue have been taken over by
>>marchers as well.
>>1:23 The uptown Lexington avenue line has been stopped at 23rd street
>>because of the protest.
>>1:21 Third Avenue is full from 50th to 53d street . Cars and buses have
>  >been trapped by the crowd-- there are US Postal Service vans, a service
>>van, and taxis. Marchers have completely taken the street.
>>1:09 The police are putting up barriers on 53d and 3d avenue. They are
>>throwing them to one another. There is a huge crowd of people stopped by
>>the barriers and they are chanting "let them through, let them through."
>>There have been several unconfirmed arrests of people trying to get over
>>the barriers. There is a lot of pushing and shoving with the police.
>>1:07 There is a march occuring on 3d avenue; people are trying to get to
>>the protest and are moving north. 1:00pm. A report just came in that 2nd
>>Ave. is "a sea of humanity" protesters have taken over half the avenue and
>>more people are joining from every direction.
>>12:41 "3rd avenue and 58th is ours!" says one caller. From 57th to 58th is
>>completely full. There are no protest pens on third avenue. There are
>>groups up third avenue as far north as 72nd street.
>>12:38 The Labor March marching from 59th street is back on the sidewalk.
>>The police have broken it in half.
>>12:32 Police are making it very difficult for protesters to get to the
>>rallly; they are requiring people to go further and further north.
>>
>>F15 12:06pm Update from Youth Bloc at 24th St and 6th: 300-400 protesters
>>remained penned in, on the sidewalk not being allowed to move.
>>Approximately 200 police, 3 deep for an entire block. Possibility that mass
>>arrests will be made soon
>>F15 12:02pm If you are heading to the rally from the west side of
>>Manhattan, you should attempt to get there above 55th st. It will be
>>difficult to get there otherwise. There are large numbers of protesters
>>heading north past 51st and Lexington.
>>F15 12:00pm From the rally: There are large numbers of people turning out
>>in the bitter cold, and it is difficult to estimate numbers. At least ten
>>blocks are packed in outside the Dag Hammarskjold plaza.
>>F15 11:53am Police have confirmed arrests at Union Square. No numbers given
>>by police.
>>F15 11:47am Youth Bloc Update: several hundred people penned in by police
>>at 24th st between 5th and 6th ave. One-hundred police and 15 or more
>>mounted police. There have been several arrests. Police are letting people
>>out five at a time. The march is on the sidewalk. The marchers are chanting
>>"The whole world is watching, they are on our side."
>>F15 11:39am We have word that the Youth Bloc was the march that moved west
>>from Union Square, not east. They marched towards 6th ave. and then north.
>>At 23d st and 6th ave, police moved in and pushed the march back east.
>>There are several mounted police, 15 vans vans, and several buses. At 24th
>>st, the march was cut in half by police.
>>F15 11:25am At the Public Library: Approximately 1,000 people at the
>>library. There are between 100-200 police in full riot gear, some with
>>batons drawn, standing in the second lane of 5th Avenue. People are leaving
>>in small groups, but no organized mach has yet left the library.
>  >F15 11:03am One of the feeder marches just took the street on West 21st
>>street and 6th avenue. There are at least a thousand people on the street.
>>About 20 or so riot police are stationed on the street, but they have now
>>given up trying to force marchers back onto the sidewalk.
>>F15 10:59am 100 people have now left the Green Party headquarters, and are
>>headed towards the rally.
>>F15 10:55am Approx. 1,000 people have left Union Square, and they have just
>>been joined by an additonal march. The march has headed west on 14th st.,
>>not east. They are marching behind a banner that says "Our Nation Says No
>>To War," and are marching on the sidewalk.
>>F15 10:14am Plans continue to percolate for post-rally marching. Read
>>updates here.
>>F15 10:04am Looking for somthing to do before the rally? Come down to the
>>IMC at 29th street, pick up copies of the Indypendent and awesome party
>>benefit flyers to distribute at the march.
>>F15 9:27am Update on crowd control techniques near the UN: 1st avenue is
>>closed to traffic from 34th to 59th to begin with... Entry to side streets
>>from 2nd avenue ... will only be allowed every 4th street or so along 2nd
>  >ave, and exit at different streets. [Read More]
>>F14 12:40am Welcome to the NYC IMC website for the F15 convergence.
>>
>>Scratching the surface of course, but:
>>NUMBERS, NUMBERS EVERYWHERE
>>Figures of attendance in anti-war demos all over the world:
>>
>>Amsterdam Netherlands 80,000 (Indymedia),
>>Athens Greece 200.000 (Indymedia)
>>Aukland New Zealand 10,000 (Indymedia),
>>Bagdad Irak 20,000 (CNN), hundreds of thousands (Al
>>Yazira)
>>Bakaa Refugee Camp Jordania 500 (Palestine Chronicle),
>>Bangkok Thailand 3,000 (ANSA) ,
>>Barcelona Spain 1 million (Indymedia Barcelona)
>>Beirut Lebanon: 60.000 (indymedia)
>>Bellingen Australia 2,500 (Indymedia),
>>Berlin Germany 500,000 (Indymedia),
>>Bern Switzerland 30,000 (Swissinfo),
>>Brussels Belgium: 11.000 (indymedia)
>>Cairo Egypt 2,000 (Palestine Chronicle), tens of
>>thousands (local media)
>>Canberra Australia 16,000 (Reuters),
>>Cape Town South Africa 5,000 (Indymedia),
>>Copenhagen Denmark 20,000 (Politiken) 50.000
>>(organisers)
>>Damascus Syria: tens of thousands (various media)
>>Durban South Africa 3,000 (Indymedia),
>>Gaza Palestina 15,000 (AFP),
>>Glasgow, Scotland 30,000 (police) 80,000 (organisers)
>>Helsinki Finnland: 12.000 (indymedia)
>>Hobart Australien 10,000 (ABC),
>>Jakarta Indonesien 200 (Jakarta Post),
>>Johannesburg South Africa 10,000 (Indymedia),
>>Kolkata Indien 10,000 (AFP),
>>Kuala Lumpur Malaysia 2,000 (Malaysiakini),
>>Lismore Australia 5000 (Indymedia),
>>London UK 500,000 (CNN), 750,000 (police) 2 million
>>(organisers & indymedia)
>>Manila Filippinerna 6,000 (Rai),
>>Melbourne Australia 200,000 (Indymedia),
>>Monza Italy 5,000 (Indymedia),
>>New York USA: 100.000 (organisers)
>>Newcastle Australia 20,000 (Indymedia),
>>Oslo Norway 60,000 (Indymedia),
>>Paris France: 250.000 (organisers)
>>Pattani Airport Thailand 10,000 (Reuters),
>>Perth Australia 10,000 (ABC),
>>Rome Italy 1 million (CNN), 3 million (organisers)
>>Sarajevo Bosnien 500 (Rai),
>>Seoul South Korea 10,000 (AP).
>>Sevilla Spain 250,000 (Indymedia)
>>Stockholm Sweden: 30.000 (Indymedia)
>>Stuttgart Germany: 50.000 (Indymedia)
>>Srinagar Kashmir India 2,000 (Reuters),
>>Tokyo Japan 25,000, (ANSA),
>>Turin Italy 1,500 (Indymedia),
>>Vienna: 15.000 - 30.000 (Indymedia)
>>Wellington New Zealand 5,000 (Reuters)
>
>
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