[Peace-discuss] 9/11 film actions

Alfred Kagan akagan at uiuc.edu
Fri Jun 18 11:01:31 CDT 2004


The bottom line is that we want to reach as many 
people as we can. The best way to do that may be 
to have a table inside the theater.  We now have 
an offer to have the table. Why should we 
complicate matters? This is not the time and 
place to debate electoral politics. We should 
continue that discussion at AWARE meetings.


At 7:38 PM -0700 6/17/04, Chuck Minne wrote:
>Well, you can try to do what you wish on public 
>property. But Mr. Boardman could very easily 
>say, ìBecause I donít like you leafleting in 
>front of my business, I hereby refuse to let you 
>set up a table inside.î
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>Then of course there is the whole different 
>issue of responsibility/liability for any 
>accident or untoward happening on his property 
>that may involve AWARE people or items. Suppose 
>someone trips on the AWARE table and dies? I 
>just bring this up to reinforce my opinion that 
>he is being a really, really nice guy in letting 
>AWARE on his property.  I think that should be 
>appreciated and he be treated accordingly. If it 
>were I, and it is not, I would ask his approval 
>for everything. Just my thoughts.
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>Regina Cassidy <rcassidy at parkland.edu> wrote:
>
>It seemed to me also that Boardman was being 
>very reasonable, even generous. I suggest that 
>AWARE respect the limits he requests in using 
>his place of business to get the message across.
>
>Perhaps he wouldn't even mind Carl leafletting 
>outside the theater off his property (not that 
>he needs permission).
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>Wouldn't it be great if some fence-sitters or 
>even right-wingers actually attended the movie 
>and changed their minds? We need to let them get 
>in the theater without feeling intimidated. At 
>that point, seeing the movie is more important 
>than getting literature into people's hands 
>(they may even seek it out afterwards).
>
>Gina
>
>>>>  Chuck Minne 06/17/04 5:58 PM >>>
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>I have no idea if that is the case or not. I 
>know you are Mr. Boardman's guest. I thought he 
>was very understanding and generous. I know that 
>he expres sed that he was not taking a position 
>and wanted to represent all sides. As far as I 
>know it was represented to him that you wanted 
>to use his lobby to promote AWARE and he said 
>OK. I think he would consider representing AWARE 
>and also a certain political candidate two 
>entirely separate matters, and would feel 
>somewhat betrayed or blindsided when you put out 
>someone's campaign literature. I would.
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>I simply think that as guests you should get his 
>approval * nobody likes that kind of surprise. 
>Johnson may have helped him or he may be seeking 
>Johnson's assistance on some matter, thus this 
>could be a sensitive issue for him. I'm sure 
>that in the spirit of his neutrality and 
>openness that he might want to then also display 
>some Johnson literature, and maybe anybody else. 
>Or just say "no" to any candidate literature. 
>Maybe he'll say, "go ahead, I hate the sob." I 
>don't have a clue, I just know how I think a 
>guest should act.
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>I think a lot of business would ha ve told you 
>to go to hell, and that he has been very 
>generous and he should be treated with every 
>courtesy. I do not think you would want to be 
>considered a "give us an inch and we will take a 
>mile" type of organization. Again, just my 2¢.
>
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>"C. G. Estabrook" wrote:If that's the case, 
>Chuck, we should relocate to the street and 
>leaflet
>the attendees from public property. I don't we can acquiesce in having
>commercial enterprises (like WILL and the Art Theater) condition what we
>say. Regards, Carl
>
>
>On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, Chuck Minne wrote:
>
>>  I would suggest you get permission before putting any candidate
>>  literature on the table. After all, you would be using Mr. Boradman's
>>  theater to oppose the incumbent, and he might be very uncomfortable
>>  with that. I would be, if I were him. Just my 2¢.
>>
>>
>>  "C. G. Estabrook" wrote:Obviously there's a 
>>difference between "supporting" Gill in the 
>>sense of
>>  endorsing him and simply having the sort of flyer you describe on an AWARE
>  > table. I don't see how there could be any objection to the latter.
>>  We've done as much for other candidates (e.g., Obama) who are less clearly
>>  anti-war. --CGE
>>
>>
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