[Peace-discuss] must see - stolen elections

[Jim Buell]

At 08:09 AM 11/4/2004, Lisa Chason wrote:
>
>sorry for the multiple postings but I want to make sure you see this
>
>Staged Election: Several Republicans Win by Exact Same Amount of Votes 
><http://prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/031104sameamount.htm>http://prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/031104sameamount.htm
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Lisa, I have to admit I was very suspicious of this on first following your 
link - not familiar with "prisonplanet" or "voxfux", and the all-caps 
looked like a rant. But there does seem to be some real question about the 
particular number that comes up in all these votes: 18181. Do note 
something that isn't mentioned in your link: the elections described were 
all in November 2002, not this week. A quick google on "18181 votes" turns 
up several discussions on blackboxvoting.com - turns out it's a prime 
number that reads the same forward and backward, rightside up and upside 
down. It's also what you get when you divide 1 by  (5.5 * e-5), or 
1/0.000055. One poster 
(http://www.blackboxvoting.org/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=27&forum=DCForumID28&omm=10&viewmode=threaded) 
speculated it might be the product of a pseudorandom number generator that 
would ordinarily be used for testing (intentionally seeded the same way 
each time)  but has no seeming legitimate purpose anywhere in voting 
machine code - this post is from Dec. 7, 2003. Calling all programmers and 
mathematicians - WTF???

More on this is on another thread at blackboxvoting, particularly a message 
contributed by Bev Harris, who's the main investigator at that site:
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=114&forum=DCForumID12&omm=0&viewmode=threaded
She wrote this on November 20, 2003:

>"Andy Stephenson solves small mystery with 18181"
>
>    We had not been able to find out what voting system was used in Comal 
> County, Texas, where three Republican candidates in a row got 18,181 
> votes. I figured it wasn't Diebold, because I have a list of all their 
> installations and Comal County wasn't on there.
>
>When I called they got a little huffy and said they'd call me back; they 
>didn't.
>
>One of the researchers who has contributed to Black Box Voting information 
>this year is DU's god_bush_n_cheney. This week, he put on his best native 
>Texan accent (he is originally from Texas). He sweet-talked the Comal 
>County elections official into admitting that those machines are: ES&S.
>
>Now we know. He has persuaded a lot of people to open up and talk to him 
>over the phone, and some have even sent some pretty hard-to-reach 
>documents. Two people who didn't succumb to his charms were director of 
>The Election Center R. Doug Lewis, who disconnected him when asked for a 
>list of certified version numbers, and Diebold Election Systems President 
>Bob Urosevich, who told him "If you don't back off, you're gonna get a visit."
>
>Anyway. Now we know: ES&S machines were the 18181 anomaly, and ES&S 
>machines were in Baldwin County Alabama where the governor's race flipped 
>from Democrat Don Siegelman to Republican Bob Riley when 6300 
>still-unaccounted for votes disappeared overnight. ES&S machines were also 
>used in Scurry County, Texas, where a landslide was declared for a 
>Republican that turned out to be for a Democrat.
>
>Anyone who thinks it's time to woo informants from ES&S, please raise your 
>hand.
>
>Bev Harris
>http://www.blackboxvoting.org


Jim