[Peace-discuss] Fwd: [SRRTAC-L:14980] Re: Fwd: Re: Voting machine theft- why no fight back?

Fri Nov 5 14:11:01 CST 2004

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>Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 11:34:59 -0800 (PST)
>From: Ann Sparanese <sparanese at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [SRRTAC-L:14980] Re: Fwd: Re: Voting machine theft- why no 
>fight back?
>To: SRRT Action Council <srrtac-l at ala.org>
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>And something more about Ohio...
>
>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=703&e=7&u=/ap/20041105/ap_on_el_pr/voting_problems
>
>Ann
>
>
>--- Alfred Kagan <akagan at uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
>>  Nebraska too.
>>
>>  >From: Red1pearl at aol.com
>>  >Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 12:45:19 EST
>>  >Subject: Re: Voting machine theft- why no fight
>>  back?
>>  >To: s_silver at sbcglobal.net,
>>  chicagodan at yahoogroups.com,
>>  >         chicagomayday at yahoogroups.com,
>>  gangbox at yahoogroups.com,
>>  >         anti-cap-Discussion at yahoogroups.com
>>  >
>>  >Exit polling refers to over 20,000 individuals
>>  questioned at length
>>  >over their votes, important issues, etc. right
>>  after voting. It is
>>  >probably the largest and most consistent poll
>>  taken; the numbers and
>>  >variety far exceed the numbers needed to be
>>  statistically valid. Yet
>>  >they are reversed, and no one 'important' makes
>>  even a stink?!
>>  >
>>  >The Nebraska example of statewide theft below is on
>>  factual and
>>  >points the finger, imho. The Ohio vote was largely
>>  (%?) on similar
>>  >machines with no paper records by a similarly
>>  connected right
>>  >winger. Yet we see  no challenges; instead, Kerry
>>  drops the stand,
>>  >"Every vote will count and every vote will be
>>  counted", and the
>>  >media apparatus starts to clean up the
>>  uncomfortable facts by
>>  >changing them. 1984 is us!
>>  >
>>  >The next question for me is, "Why then did Kerry so
>>  quickly abdicate
>>  >and give up?" even faster than did Gore when that
>>  one was stolen and
>>  >blocked in 2000?
>>  >
>>  >To me, they are corporate handmaidens or whores,
>>  however you like
>>  >it. The last thing they want or will do is to show
>>  how rotten this
>>  >system is. That's also why not one Democratic
>>  senator would endorse
>>  >the Congressional Black Caucus's demand for a
>>  congressional hearing
>>  >on the racist exclusion of Black votes in 2000.
>>  >
>>  >The Dems' campaign was run by 'advisors' whose day
>>  jobs is laboring
>>  >for the multinationals and various business
>>  associations. No wonder
>>  >they didn't bite the hand that feeds them so well.
>>  The Dems'
>>  >dominant outlook is the Clinton centrists who are
>>  really corporate
>>  >capitalists in progressive dress. (remember NAFTA
>>  and 'ending
>>  >welfare as we know it'?)
>>  >
>>  >How do you explain their quick capitulations and
>>  corporate service?
>>  >
>>  >Earl
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >In a message dated 11/5/2004 1:04:21 AM Central
>>  Standard Time,
>>  >s_silver at sbcglobal.net writes:
>>  >
>>  >I trust goons like DeLay about as much as I trust
>>  Osama Bin Laden.
>>  >
>>  >Published on Thursday, November 4, 2004 by
>>  CommonDreams.org
>>  >The Ultimate Felony Against Democracy
>>  >by Thom Hartmann
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >The hot story in the Blogosphere is that the
>>  "erroneous" exit polls
>>  >that showed Kerry carrying Florida and Ohio (among
>>  other states)
>>  ><http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=388>weren't
>>  erroneous at all -
>>  >it was the numbers produced by paperless voting
>>  machines that were
>>  >wrong, and Kerry actually won. As more and more
>>  analysis is done of
>>  >what may (or may not) be the most massive election
>>  fraud in the
>>  >history of the world, however, it's critical that
>>  we keep the
>>  >largest issue at the forefront at all time: Why are
>>  We The People
>>  >allowing private, for-profit corporations,
>>  answerable only to their
>>  >officers and boards of directors, and loyal only to
>  > agendas and
>>  >politicians that will enhance their profitability,
>>  to handle our
>>  >votes?
>>  >
>>  >Maybe Florida went for Kerry, maybe for Bush. Over
>>  time - and
>>  >through the efforts of some very motivated
>>  investigative reporters -
>>  >we may well find out (Bev Harris of
>>
>><http://www.blackboxvoting.org/>www.blackboxvoting.org
>>  just filed
>>  >what may be the largest Freedom of Information Act
>>  [FOIA} filing in
>>  >history), and bloggers and investigative reporters
>>  are discovering
>>  >an odd discrepancy in exit polls being largely
>>  accurate in
>>  >paper-ballot states and oddly inaccurate in
>>  touch-screen electronic
>>  >voting states Even
>>
>><http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/3/52213/1921>raw
>>  voter
>>  >analyses are showing extreme oddities in
>>  touch-screen-run Florida,
>>  >and eagle-eyed bloggers are finding that
>>
>><http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/04/11/ana04025.html>news
>>
>>  >organizations are retroactively altering their exit
>>  polls to
>>  >coincide with what the machines ultimately said.
>>  >
>>  >But in all the discussion about voting machines,
>>  let's never forget
>>  >the concept of the commons, because this usurpation
>>  is the ultimate
>>  >felony committed by conservatives this year.
>>  >
>>  >At the founding of this nation, we decided that
>>  there were important
>>  >places to invest our tax (then tariff) dollars, and
>>  those were the
>>  >things that had to do with the overall "life,
>>  liberty, and the
>>  >pursuit of happiness" of all of us. Over time,
>>  these commons - in
>>  >which we all make tax investments and for which we
>>  all hold ultimate
>>  >responsibility - have come to include our police
>>  and fire services;
>>  >our military and defense; our roads and skyways;
>>  our air, waters and
>>  >national parks; and the safety of our food and
>>  drugs.
>>  >
>>  >But the most important of all the commons in which
>>  we've invested
>>  >our hard-earned tax dollars is our government
>>  itself. It's owned by
>>  >us, run by us (through our elected
>>  representatives), answerable to
>>  >us, and most directly responsible for stewardship
>>  of our commons.
>>  >
>>  >And the commons through which we regulate the
>>  commons of our
>>  >government is our vote.
>>  >
>>  >About two years ago, I wrote
>>  ><http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0131-01.htm>a
>>  story for these
>>  >pages, "If You Want To Win An Election, Just
>>  Control The Voting
>>  >Machines," that exposed how Senator Chuck Hagel
>>  had, before stepping
>>  >down and running for the U.S. Senate in Nebraska,
>>  been the head of
>>  >the voting machine company (now ES&S) that had just
>>  computerized
>>  >Nebraska's vote. The Washington Post (1/13/1997)
>>  said Hagel's
>>  >"Senate victory against an incumbent Democratic
>>  governor was the
>>  >major Republican upset in the November election."
>>  According to Bev
>>  >Harris, Hagel won virtually every demographic
>>  group, including many
>>  >largely black communities that had never before
>>  voted Republican.
>>  >Hagel was the first Republican in 24 years to win a
>>  Senate seat in
>>  >Nebraska, nearly all on unauditable machines he had
>>  just sold the
>>  >state. And in all probability, Hagel run for
>>  President in 2008.
>>  >
>>  >In another, later
>>  <http://www.alternet.org/story/16474>article I
>>
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