[Peace-discuss] Re: voting and FW: The Greens Aid the collapse of the Left

Matt Reichel mattreichel at hotmail.com
Mon Oct 11 18:46:10 CDT 2004


This is the healthiest discourse I've seen on any of the peace and social 
justice listservs I'm on regarding the issue of the election. It is 
refreshing to see.
On the whole world wanting Bush out? A poll in LeMonde the other day of 
Parisiens (not all of France) showed roughly 5% supporting Bush, 50% 
supporting Kerry, and 45% either undecided, supporting alternative 
candidates, or just frankly not really caring. (If you polled Americans on 
who they support in the next French election, what would be the percentage 
that frankly didn't care??)

And, lastly, I was wondering if any Greens would like to comment on this 
latest piece by Josh Frank, whose work I usually admire. There seems to be a 
deal of malcontent among some activists on how the Greens have handled their 
2004 campaign, and I'd be curious to hear more.

>From: "Joshua Frank" <frank_joshua at hotmail.com>
>Subject: The Greens Aid the collapse of the Left
>Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 09:23:56 -0700
>
>Of icebergs and islands.....
>
>"I officially changed my voter registration and left the Green Party this 
>past week. Or, more aptly put, the Green Party left me. Actually, they 
>abandoned many of us last summer when they decided not to run a candidate 
>for president.
>
>Oh, I know what you are thinking: "They are running a candidate. His name's 
>David Cobb. Give the guy some respect!" My rejoinder: If David Cobb is a 
>presidential candidate, then why have an oppositional party that is 
>supposed to challenge the Democrats and Republicans at all? What good is 
>it? For me, it is not that the legitimacy of Cobb's nomination is suspect 
>-- although it is; Rather, what I find bothersome is the way that Cobb has 
>chosen to run his insipid campaign and the cultish drones within the Green 
>Party who refuse to acknowledge that Cobb's bid is actually hurting the 
>Party -- and the Left -- while aiding George W. Bush's re-election in the 
>process. Ignorance must be bliss."
>
>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Oct04/Frank1009.htm
>

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