[Peace-discuss] Thursday witness for peace

Janine Giordano jgiord2 at uiuc.edu
Wed Dec 14 15:54:37 CST 2005


Agreeing that what goes on inside churches is NOT just proBush pep rallies, 
I have wondered if organizing and protest would be better wrought from 
inside the church than outside. I wonder how this is done...
-Janine

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Stinard" <pstinard at hotmail.com>
To: <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:31 PM
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Thursday witness for peace


> Mort,
>
> Clearly, it IS a matter of respect.  I know that you don't believe it, but 
> these churches aren't pro-Bush pep rallies.  They consider what goes on 
> inside their doors to be holy, even if you don't think so, and little, if 
> any of that, has anything to do with supporting the war in Iraq.  I'm just 
> pointing this out.
>
> --Phil
>
>
>>Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:08:58 -0600
>>From: "Morton K. Brussel" <brussel4 at insightbb.com>
>>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Thursday witness for peace
>>To: Phil Stinard <pstinard at hotmail.com>
>>Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
>>Message-ID: <84DAADC0-9511-49B4-8DF0-81535C733F29 at insightbb.com>
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>>Clearly, signs are not needed  for "CU Churches [which] Oppose Iraq
>>Occupation". In front of
>>churches which do not speak out or consider the morality of our Iraq
>>war and the war on terror, we need to identify what we're about. I
>>don't see it as a question of respect. And I do not consider churches
>>to be untouchable, as many of them would like to consider themselves.
>>
>>--mkb
>>
>>
>>On Dec 14, 2005, at 11:55 AM, Phil Stinard wrote:
>>
>> > I'm curious as to why no signs.  Is this out of respect?  If it is,
>> > then why is the same respect not shown to churches during the
>> > Sunday "church presences"?  If those churches asked you to not
>> > carry signs, would you not carry them?  I think that it's admirable
>> > that a coalition of churches will be issuing a statement against
>> > the Iraq war this Thursday, and it's a nice gesture to have a vigil
>> > of support with no signs.  Why can't you extend the same respect to
>> > other churches?
>> >
>> > --Phil
>> >
>> >
>> >> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:39:08 -0600
>> >> From: "Lisa Chason" <chason at shout.net>
>> >> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Thursday witness for peace
>> >> To: <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>> >> Message-ID: <004001c6002d$a5fac040$6700a8c0 at yourm5d4u9r2uv>
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>> >>
>> >> I saw Muhammad al-Heeti today and he asked me to make sure AWARE
>> >> folks know
>> >> about this event:
>> >>
>> >> CU-CHURCHES OPPOSE IRAQ OCCUPATION
>> >>
>> >> PLEASE COME AND SHOW YOUR SUPPORT FOR A RESOLUTION TO WITHDRAW
>> >> FROM IRAQ
>> >>
>> >> THURSDAY, DECEMBER 15, 12:15PM, McKINLEY CHURCH (corner of Fifth
>> >> and John)
>> >>
>> >> The following groups have signed a resolution or made faith-based
>> >> statements
>> >> to withdraw US support from Iraq: Ubana-Champaign Friends (Quaker)
>> >> Meeting;
>> >> Illinois Great Rivers Chapter of Methodist Federation for Social
>> >> Concerns;
>> >> Social Concerns Committee of St Patrick's Catholic Church; First
>> >> Mennonite
>> >> Church in Urbana; McKinley Presbyterian Church Social Action
>> >> Committee;
>> >> Channing Murray Foundation; Outreach Ministries at Wesley United
>> >> Methodist
>> >> Church; Illinois Disciples Foundation; and CU-Interfaith Alliance.
>> >>
>> >> Whether or not you are a member of one of these group, if your
>> >> moral or
>> >> religious convictions lead you to believe the US should withdraw
>> >> from Iraq,
>> >> please come to this press conference/public gathering and witness
>> >> with your
>> >> presence.
>> >>
>> >> No signs please. You may bring a candle or votive in a small glass
>> >> jar to
>> >> show your support.
>> >
>> >
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