[Peace-discuss] Re: hostility towards activists

[Scott Edwards]

>As for the local and campus Darfur activists, they need to answer some hard 
>questions.  Let me >ask:  Where is the campus "die-in" for Iraq?  Wither 
>the "million postcards" for Iraq?  And I repeat, >whatever one thinks of 
>the relative magnitudes of the crimes, the one in Iraq is being carried out 
> >in your name.

These aren't hard questions. They are silly questions. I'm not a "Darfur 
activist" and I don't know these people, but I'd imagine some wouldn't know 
the answers to these questions, since they are DARFUR activists. I'm sure 
plenty of them can tell you about Iraq war events on campus, though. All 
those people who actually DO things to effect change instead of deriding 
from the sidelines tend to hang out. You'll recognize them as the ones 
giving you the finger when you imply that, because they aren't working on 
doing something about TWO travesties, they are complicit in the atrocities 
in Iraq. I personally prefer a civil exchange of ideas, but those young 
people have got a lot of fire in their bellies.

If anyone wants non-advocacy news reports from and about Darfur (since the 
info presented on this list is perpetually a month old), a good resource is 
www.Sudantribune.com

tuning out...
peace



>Message: 3
>Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 14:23:29 -0800 (PST)
>From: Tom Mackaman <tmackaman at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [Peace-discuss] Re: RE: Darfur (and Gaza)
>To: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
>Message-ID: <20061206222329.27776.qmail at web81411.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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>Gaza, yes.  And to say nothing of Iraq, a war crime of world-historical 
>proportions that has been carried out directly by the US government in the 
>name of all of us.  A crime, moreover, that very likely surpasses both in 
>absolute and relative loss of life what has taken place in Darfur.  Using 
>the exact same statistical methods as have been deployed to determine loss 
>of life in Darfur, Johns-Hopkins scientists have determined that 650,000 
>Iraqis have been killed.  This report was produced by the leading medical 
>research university in the world and was published in the world's most 
>respected medical journal, The Lancet.  Our illustrious president then 
>dismissed the findings, and the obedient media dropped it.  There has been, 
>on the other hand, a constant drum beat in the media regarding Darfur.  I 
>think that it behooves us to ask ourselves why this is the case.
>
>   It is an indictment of American liberalism that publications such as the 
>NY Times can, without a hint of shame, champion military intervention in 
>Sudan when they themselves bear such a high degree of responsibility for a 
>crime of greater proportion in Iraq.
>
>   As for the local and campus Darfur activists, they need to answer some 
>hard questions.  Let me ask:  Where is the campus "die-in" for Iraq?  
>Wither the "million postcards" for Iraq?  And I repeat, whatever one thinks 
>of the relative magnitudes of the crimes, the one in Iraq is being carried 
>out in your name.
>
>   I highly recommend the following article from the World Socialist Web 
>Site:  UN report documents huge October death toll in Iraq 
>http://www.wsws.org/articles/2006/nov2006/iraq-n24.shtml
>
>   Tom Mackaman

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