[Peace-discuss] Shame

Wed Nov 1 21:12:21 CST 2006

Robert,

  Do you make a habit of being a cheering section for someone who cannot talk to anyone, particularly a female, without resorting to profanity?  And I thought you guys were all about family and moral values.  Tsk, tsk.  

  Should have known better after the incident with the small boy who was cruelly lampooned on one of your extremely moral websites.

  "So go ahead and have that last word.  You become more laughable with every post." 

  If it comes true again, I may look into getting my own psychic hotline.

  Tammy

Robert Dunn <prorobert8 at hotmail.com> wrote:
        Bravo, Bravo, John scores again!! im sick of these overpriviliged brats like John Kerry and most Leftist who think that those who go into the military are stupid or too poor to choose not to. For Leftists, some people just do not want to go and get indoctrinated in queer or feminazi theory. They want to learn a practical skill. The military does a fine job of that. And for you AWAREistas, Kerry is wrong, our troops are not stupid. But, hey we Republicans needed him at the last minute. Thank you again Far Leftists for redefeating the Democrats AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  John, groups like AWARE are useful for the GOP. 
  robert

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From:  David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>
To:  Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Subject:  [Peace-discuss] Bambenek goes ballistic
Date:  Wed, 1 Nov 2006 06:51:18 -0800 (PST)
>At bottom, link to the video
>
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>Counter-recruitment or counter-patriotism?
>Liberal efforts to slow enlistment numbers detrimental
>to students, nation
>
>John Bambanek
>
>Posted: 11/1/06
>
>A video on military service called "Before you Enlist"
>was recently approved to be shown to Centennial High
>School students by principal Dr. Weigand. This video,
>created by the American Friends Service Committee, was
>presented to Centennial by members of the Anti-War
>Anti-Racism Effort, an organization that is in no
>small part ordered to eliminating hatred and invidious
>discrimination in our community.
>
>If the point of the video were that people should take
>what recruiters say with a grain of salt, I would have
>no objection. But the video goes far beyond that to
>paint the military as a den of rapists of their fellow
>soldiers, including the first-person testimony of one
>enlisted woman. I know quite a few women who have
>served and none of them had any inkling of such
>problems. Painting the military as a group as rapists
>is the kind of invidious stereotyping AWARE should be
>against.
>
>Yes, there have been incidents of rape in the military
>and when discovered they have been prosecuted. There
>have also been incidents of frat boys putting roofies
>in women's drinks at frat parties. Shall we consider
>the entire Greek system a den of rape too?
>
>Another favorite claim of the anti-war left is that
>the military recruits 18- and 19-year-old "kids" who
>don't know what they're doing. So let me get this
>straight: according to the left, a 12-year-old has all
>the faculties necessary get an abortion, but an
>18-year-old can't make their own career choices when
>those choices include something noble like military
>service?
>
>Sure, some of the antics on this campus give weight to
>the claims that college-aged people are basically
>kids. Just turn a few pages and see the puerile comic
>"Aww Shit" and you'll see what I mean. For that
>matter, just look at Professor Kaufmann's anti-Chief
>antics and he's well over 20. However, just because
>some people get to college with a sense of entitlement
>that the world somehow owes them, doesn't mean all
>college-aged people are that immature.
>
>The video also claims that military service provides
>no job skills. There are a few jobs that don't have
>technical skills that map to the civilian sector;
>however, the discipline, ability to communicate and
>high motivation do provide decided job advantages to
>military veterans.
>
>For instance, I completed the Air Force ROTC program
>when I was an undergrad but could not be commissioned
>because I injured my knees before graduation. I went
>to work for Ernst & Young making six figures my first
>year out the door. Within six months I was promoted to
>project manager, one of the youngest in the company.
>
>Of all the classes I took during my undergraduate
>years, it was my minimal Air Force training more than
>anything else that helped me succeed. Everyone I know
>that has left the military has similar stories of
>success.
>
>However, it seems that now there has been an effort to
>target ROTC cadets to convince them they don't know
>what they are doing. On other campuses, ROTC cadets
>are treated to all sorts of harassment for being
>"baby-killers."
>
>When Mike Rudzinski, an Army colonel, spoke at Carey
>Busey Elementary School, the anti-war left became
>absolutely unglued about how he was recruiting 10
>-year-olds for military service. They said he lied to
>the kids because he didn't deliver the anti-war
>template message. One writer called recruiters
>"monsters who have been stealing the American dream."
>And they act surprised when people question their
>patriotism.
>
>The military is not for everyone. It's a hard life
>spent defending something good and worth dying for.
>While unilateral surrender might appeal to Marxists
>who pretty much hate the American system already,
>sometimes brave men and women need to stand up and
>fight to defend the innocent. They shouldn't be
>denigrated for their efforts, they deserve better.
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>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFsaGv6cefw
>
>This is a sneak preview. They will release it on DVD
>shortly. It's possible to pre-order.
>
>Full details at:
>
>http://www.beforeyouenlist.org/
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