[Peace-discuss] Gill on lebanese war

[Chas. 'Mark' Bee]

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From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu>
To: "Chas. 'Mark' Bee" <c-bee1 at itg.uiuc.edu>; "Peace Discuss" 
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Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Gill on lebanese war


> Mark, amidst your usual childish abuse,

  Mote, beam, eye.

> are you seriously contending that the Democrats did NOT "condemn our Iraqi 
> puppet prime minister for not supporting the Israeli assault"?

  That's correct.  I'm still waiting for anything that shows support, or even 
acceptance, of the ~100/1 collective punishment inflicted was a condition for 
anything at all.

>
> =============
>
>    "Iraqi Prime Minister's Maliki's criticism of Israel's right to defend 
> itself is unacceptable," Pelosi said in a statement.

  I don't see anything here about the assault.

>
>    "At the White House this morning, Mr. Maliki did not retreat from his 
> comments on Israel and once again failed to criticize Hamas and Hezbollah's 
> terrorist activities.

  Still nothing about the assault.

>
>    "Unless Mr. Maliki disavows his critical comments of Israel and condemns 
> terrorism, it is inappropriate to honor him with a joint meeting of 
> Congress."

  Again, absolutely nothing about the assault.

>
> http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Nancy_Pelosi_statement_regarding_Iraqi_Prime_0725.html
> http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=69729
>
>
> Rebellious Puppets? "A group of House of Representatives Democrats was 
> circulating a letter to House Speaker Dennis Hastert urging the Illinois 
> Republican to secure an apology from Maliki or cancel the address on 
> Wednesday to a joint meeting of Congress. Ron Bonjean, Hastert's spokesman, 
> said there was no intention to cancel Maliki's speech, and accused Democrats 
> of "political gamesmanship during an election year." Iraq's U.S.-backed 
> government on Saturday denounced Israel's "criminal" raids on Lebanon and 
> Gaza and warned that violence could escalate across the Middle East."
> http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2006/07/rebellious-puppets-group-of-house-of.html
>
> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Congressional Democrats voiced alarm on Tuesday over 
> Iraq's denunciation of Israel in the Mideast conflict, and some said Iraqi 
> Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki's upcoming address to Congress should be 
> canceled unless he apologizes.
>
> A group of House of Representatives Democrats was circulating a letter to 
> House Speaker Dennis Hastert urging the Illinois Republican to secure an 
> apology from Maliki or cancel the address on Wednesday to a joint meeting of 
> Congress.
>
> Ron Bonjean, Hastert's spokesman, said there was no intention to cancel 
> Maliki's speech, and accused Democrats of "political gamesmanship during an 
> election year."
>
> Iraq's U.S.-backed government on Saturday denounced Israel's "criminal" raids 
> on Lebanon and Gaza and warned that violence could escalate across the Middle 
> East.
>
> Senate Democrats in a letter to Maliki said his failure to condemn 
> Hizbollah's "aggression and recognize Israel's right to defend itself raise 
> serious questions about whether Iraq under your leadership can play a 
> constructive role in resolving the current crisis and bringing stability to 
> the Middle East."
>
> With more than 2,500 U.S. service members killed in the Iraq conflict, more 
> than 18,000 wounded and more than $300 billion in U.S. tax dollars spent, the 
> Senate Democrats said, "Americans deserve to know whether Iraq in an ally in 
> these fights."
>
> http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-07-25T151913Z_01_N25297455_RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAQ-MALIKI-CONGRESS.xml

  Still waiting for anything at all to show that the assault was what they were 
talking about.  Anything.  How long has it been now?

  It's real simple - all you need is something like the above, but referring to 
bloodshed rather than rights.  What's so tough?  Is it that you can't find a 
single democrat quote taking the bloodthirsty position you accused them of?

  I'm going to assume that you are permanently stuck on 'right to defend 
itself' (an abstract concept) as a suitable substitute for 'assault' (blood and 
death on a massive scale) in true elementary school playground fashion, until I 
get a real cite.  I don't intend to keep addressing your serial failures to 
provide one ad infinitum