[Peace-discuss] Today's Letters to N-G = Radical Cult blindly follows research of Carl Estabrook!

[Robert Naiman]

Mightn't it be possible to disagree with views stated by Michael
Shapiro and Fred Jaher without describing them as "neurotic"? What is
accomplished by these personal insults?

I find this personally offensive. Might it be possible to raise the
standard of discourse around here?

P.S. I like Michael Shapiro. Could the enemies list be pruned a bit? I
figured there was no harm in askin'.

On 4/11/07, David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Linda Kurtz is actually the same woman who a couple of years ago openly
> insulted Hibba Leseman (sp?) at the Wal-Mart regarding her Islamic apparel.
> I believe that she or her husband is a Democratic precinct leader in
> Champaign.
>
> Unfortunately, both of these writers appear to be at least nominally Jewish,
> and probably not by accident. It's become harder and harder for liberal Jews
> to resist cognitive dissonance while supporting U.S. and Israeli
> depredations, a problem we saw both Fred Jaher and Michael Shapiro
> struggling with rather neurotically while posturing as liberals (I mean
> liberal in the positive connotations of the word) at the recent AWARE panel.
>
> Both of these letter writers are crackpots, but neither of them dares to
> offer a word in support of the Iraq war. What gets their goat is that AWARE
> promotes criticism of Israel, and threatens their triumphalist vision of
> Judeo-Christian civilization. Their support for Israel allows them to
> maintain the illusion that somehow U.S. motives in the Middle East have a
> moral basis, and to see the world in moralistic terms. The useful role of
> American support for Israel in serving to silence or tone down so much
> potential dissent from influential people to general foreign polices is just
> one more reason to understand that it is not the Israel Lobby that is
> fundamental to that support.
>
> DG
>
>
>
> Jan & Durl Kruse <jandurl at insightbb.com> wrote:
> AWARE members offering bad advice
>
> Wednesday April 11, 2007
>
> With increased Democratic Party representation throughout government,
> we can hope for policies that recognize that the function of a national
> economy is not merely to increase the production of goods and services
> but to distribute this plenty throughout the nation.
>
> But it is even more important that our representatives safeguard U.S.
> interests worldwide by avoiding bad advice, such as that offered by a
> local cult that calls itself AWARE.
>
> Its Web site professes a concern with the global spread of American
> power, and its goal is to decrease American power. When AWARE members
> peddle a plan to the Urbana City Council, they do not disclose their
> belief that the U.S. has too much global power, and that's an excellent
> strategy. Even Urbana residents realize that the U.S. has a moral
> obligation to use our power for right, not wrong. Without that power,
> someone else's notions of right will prevail. At present it is radical
> Islam that has an opposing notion of right and wrong.
>
> AWARE also professes a concern with the increased militarization of
> society. Al-Qaida, Taliban, Hezbollah, Sunni insurgents in Iraq, Shiite
> death squads – AWARE is onto something here. These groups, however,
> hate the U.S. and hate the existence of Israel, so AWARE cuts them
> endless slack. To AWARE, they are resisters of foreign domination and
> protectors of sacred heritages. It is the sight of a U.S. serviceman
> proudly wearing his uniform while speaking at a school that sends AWARE
> members into a foot-stamping snit.
>
> AWARE supporters do not belong in any position of public responsibility.
>
> I. DAVID BERG
>
> Urbana
> Find this article at:
>
> http://www.news-gazette.com/news/opinions/letters/2007/04/11/
> aware_members_offering_bad_advice
>
>
> Council candidate a member of AWARE
>
> Wednesday April 11, 2007
>
> Champaign voters be AWARE. Annette Williams, candidate for Champaign
> City Council, is an active member of the radical group AWARE. She is
> endorsed by and admits to blindly following the research of Carl
> Estabrook. Is this a person you want on your city council? I hope not.
>
> LINDA KURTZ
>
> Champaign
> Find this article at:
> http://www.news-gazette.com/news/opinions/letters/2007/04/11/
> council_candidate_a_member_of_aware
>
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